2013 Tour de Suisse, Stage 2: Quinto - Crans Montana 160Km

[Dekker_Tifosi]

It's actually the first time in his career that Mollema did proper altitude training. It seems to be paying off...

And it's not like Gesink always sucked from altitude. In TdS 2010 he was at a surreal level after altitude camp. A level he never reached again. I mean he was outclimbing the rest by 1'20 on La Punt... (lost 40 seconds in the downhill after , but still)

 

[pastronef]

Holy **** after coming in 2nd and 3rd about 20 times in a row TGBM wins awesome! And fk yeah Coach Luicito

go BLANCO!
good win for Mollema

a little sad for Ryder, but he is there, coming back after the Giro, with a good Tour in sight

 

[Winnen]

I rather hope Mollema's GC goes to **** early and he can focus on stage wins. He has that last kilometre and a decent sprint. He just always utilizes it agains the wrong guys, either he's up with Valverde and Rodriguez (who have better last km's). Or he goes into a breakaway containing Hagen (who sprints faster).
Pick a break with Voeckler and he'd eat that frenchie in the sprint

With the old Rabobank tactics it is almost impossible to win a stage. But I agree with you that TGBM is able to win stages if he goes for the breakaway more often. However, I am also curious how he is versus Froome/Contador etc.

But old Rabobank tactics probably mean that TGBM is going for the GC (spot 5-15) and Gesink (not as good a finisher as TGBM) has to go for the stage wins...

 

[Miburo]

He's with dutch eurosport now. Will be doing the tour with @TourDeJose.

ok thanks, finally at least one moron from the dutch eurosport gone.

 

[Parrulo]

Did he do an altitude camp with Delahaye, that Costa?

Also V Garderen terrible.

No, he was on same altitude camp in Sierra Nevada as Valverde who wasn't that great on the Dauphine either.

They were there at altitude for 3 weeks or 4 weeks

 

[maltiv]

I rather hope Mollema's GC goes to **** early and he can focus on stage wins. He has that last kilometre and a decent sprint. He just always utilizes it agains the wrong guys, either he's up with Valverde and Rodriguez (who have better last km's). Or he goes into a breakaway containing Hagen (who sprints faster).
Pick a break with Voeckler and he'd eat that frenchie in the sprint

That will be Nordhaug's role

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Stage 2, Crans Montana (16.43 km, 7.03 %, 1155 m). Bauke Mollema: 43 min 05 sec, 22.88 Kph, VAM 1609 m/h, 5.95 W/kg [DrF].

Sky's Dauphine team would've crushed them

 

[roundabout]

Why? His TT is below average. And the course to me doesn't get much tougher than today.

there are only 16 flat TT kms left

 

[Gloin22]

there are only 16 flat TT kms left

If that's right, then he stands a good change.

 

[theyoungest]

Stage 2, Crans Montana (16.43 km, 7.03 %, 1155 m). Bauke Mollema: 43 min 05 sec, 22.88 Kph, VAM 1609 m/h, 5.95 W/kg [DrF].

Sky's Dauphine team would've crushed them

You mean the Dauphiné team that couldn't drop Stef Clement on the queen stage? This is actually comparable to Dauphiné levels, purely going on Watts.

 

[Winnen]

Stage 2, Crans Montana (16.43 km, 7.03 %, 1155 m). Bauke Mollema: 43 min 05 sec, 22.88 Kph, VAM 1609 m/h, 5.95 W/kg [DrF].

Sky's Dauphine team would've crushed them

He can do better:

Stage 14 Vuelta 2011 final climb Lagos de Somiedo
15:28 , 19.39 Kph , VAM 1835 m/h , 6.23 W/kg

 

[Kokoso]

Kreuziger, Antón... the eternal contendes. If they take a Top10 then will be lucky...

Kreuziger still better than half of your favourites. He wasn't exactly bad today. Until he manages to get some decent results - he really is eternal contender

 

[Winnen]

You mean the Dauphiné team that couldn't drop Stef Clement on the queen stage? This is actually comparable to Dauphiné levels, purely going on Watts.

I agree. This is not that bad. Only to hope that he doesn't peak to early... Delahey's training schedule?

 

[theyoungest]

I agree. This is not that bad. Only to hope that he doesn't peak to early... Delahey's training schedule?

Delahaye's training schedules tend to be 'God zegene de greep'. But a podium in Suisse is a good result for a rider like Mollema, so who cares if he peaks too early.

 

[maltiv]

He can do better:

Stage 14 Vuelta 2011 final climb Lagos de Somiedo
15:28 , 19.39 Kph , VAM 1835 m/h , 6.23 W/kg

6,23 w/kg for 15 minutes is better than 5,95 w/kg for 40 minutes? Okay...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Delahaye's training schedules tend to be 'God zegene de greep'. But a podium in Suisse is a good result for a rider like Mollema, so who cares if he peaks too early.

Besides Mollema rarely peaks anymore. He's become incredibly consistent over the last 2 years, bar 1 thing, high mountain stages. Still hit and miss there. Consistent over most hilly stages and time trials

 

[Winnen]

6,23 w/kg for 15 minutes is better than 5,95 w/kg for 40 minutes? Okay...

Ok, you are right. Not a good comparison. Only compared the watts, not the times... stupid mistake.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Finally figured out the mystere of Mollema's GC position.

He has gotten a '20 time penalty for taking a bidon somewhere in the last kilometers were it wasn't allowed.
Bit harsch.

Swiss guys where probably ****ed he won instead of Frank or Tschopp and decided to screw him

 

[maltiv]

Finally figured out the mystere of Mollema's GC position.

He has gotten a '20 time penalty for taking a bidon somewhere in the last kilometers were it wasn't allowed.
Bit harsch.

Swiss guys where probably ****ed he won instead of Frank or Tschopp and decided to screw him

A bit harsh...Looks like taking a bidon in the last 20 k is a more serious offense than wheelsucking in a TT

 

[Jason_Mercier]

Hesjedal and Pinot are the contenders with the better rhytm and engine. They will crush the rest in Albulla Pass... in this climb the uphill sprints of Mollema or Dan Martin really don't work.

 

[Kokoso]

P. Velits 45. + 3:16. And he was third at la Vuelta once. Could you believe that? Almost on par with Kaschechkin and Schleck.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Hesjedal and Pinot are the contenders with the better rhytm and engine. They will crush the rest in Albulla Pass... in this climb the uphill sprints of Mollema or Dan Martin really don't work.

Hesjedal yeah, but Pinot doesn't strike me as a engine type of guy. Usually has a great sprint at the end as well Pinot..

 

[Jason_Mercier]

Hesjedal yeah, but Pinot doesn't strike me as a engine type of guy. Usually has a great sprint at the end as well Pinot..

Not a superdiesel but he has more engine than Mollema, Martin or Kreuziger by far.
See how he finished the Tour in Peyragudes... or La Toussuire stage in Dauphiné 2011.

I think the race is between Ryder and him.

 

[webvan]

Just watched my recording, nice climb, more interesting than a whole week of CD I'd say...

Not sure if Hesjedal can sustain that for a week but he has Dan Martin. I agree that Pinot is the better overall climber in the TDS, very impressive today again for a guy his age.

 

[pastronef]

Another borefest of a MTF, even without Sky.

lately in every race thread I see, I read "bore" "boring" "snooze" etc.

remember what happened to the not boring Pantani or Riccò or Santi Perez and so on?

we cannot ask for a Fuente De or a Tirreno rainy stage every day. that's what we get these days.