2013 Volta ao Algarve (14th-17th February), 2.1

[rghysens]

will anybody be able to beat Martin this year (longish TT)?

this will probably be the longest tt Martin will ride this year, with the exception of the world championships.

 

[HoinkDoink]

Dominant TT from Tony Martin

 

[Duartista]

It doesn't seem to be a TT where too many riders bothered, given the huge gaps in the top-10 already. Uran is 10th, a minute down on no. 8...

I think Ryo means it is a good TT by Uran's standards. Which it is.

 

[Kwibus]

Why are there hardly any TTers that can climb on such montains like today?
Really, there are like 50 really good climbers in the sport.
But there are almost no Tters who can climb a little bit these days.

Froome, Wiggins, Contador, Evans, van Garderen(not top yet, butalmost).

Better and more complete riders than Tony, who is just a TT beast that on good days survives easy hill stages.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

this will probably be the longest tt Martin will ride this year, with the exception of the world championships.

could be, but the two TT's in the Tour are close.

 

[rghysens]

could be, but the two TT's in the Tour are close.

close...but no cigar.

What I wanted to say is that it's odd that a 2nd tier preparation race in february includes one of the longest tt's in stage races this year.

Another prove that balance in race design seems to be completely lost.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

close...but no cigar.

What I wanted to say is that it's odd that a 2nd tier preparation race in february includes one of the longest tt's in stage races this year.

Another prove that balance in race design seems to be completely lost.

I see, yes random stages put together, perhaps even the order who knows.

 

[iZnoGouD]

Here is what Tony Martin has to say about this race ^^

" I have to say this kind of race, with an uphill finish, a TT, and sprint stages in the beginning is perfect for me. It's the kind of race I like and I am always looking for."

 

[will10]

will anybody be able to beat Martin this year (longish TT)?

Is the ITT competition here really that high? Everyone who's worth a cent is racing elsewhere.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Is the ITT competition here really that high? Everyone who's worth a cent is racing elsewhere.

so who do you think will beat him?

 

[Netserk]

so who do you think will beat him?

Contador in the last Tour ITT.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Contador in the last Tour ITT.

(still no details about the two TT's in the tour?)

Possible, but I think Martin will be brutal on power routes.

Does anybody know the details of the worlds TT?

 

[the asian]

(still no details about the two TT's in the tour?)

Possible, but I think Martin will be brutal on power routes.

Does anybody know the details of the worlds TT?

Long and flat. There was a profile in the 2013 WC thread.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador in the last Tour ITT.

God I hope so but we have to see if Alberto can get back to his old tt level

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Long and flat. There was a profile in the 2013 WC thread.

right. thanks.

 

[roundabout]

(still no details about the two TT's in the tour?)

Possible, but I think Martin will be brutal on power routes.

Does anybody know the details of the worlds TT?

Purely from the start and finish points and the distance, I would guess that there would be 2 climbs, over 800 meters of climbing and about 5 km of flat in the second Tour TT.

It seems to be a GC rider TT so a few people can beat Martin.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Purely from the start and finish points and the distance, I would guess that there would be 2 climbs, over 800 meters of climbing and about 5 km of flat in the second Tour TT.

It seems to be a GC rider TT so a few people can beat Martin.

yep, that would be a bigger challenge.

 

[Bavarianrider]

The second Tour Time Trial is a mountain time trial really. Only up and down.
Even on his best day Tony couldn't win that. He'll lose lots of time on the downhills.

 

[Netserk]

The second Tour Time Trial is a mountain time trial really. Only up and down.
Even on his best day Tony couldn't win that. He'll lose lots of time on the downhills.

It's a perfect ITT for Contador though.

I'm almost certain (as certain as you can be even though that Contador hasn't won an ITT in ages...) that Contador will win the ITT.

He will beat Froome. He will beat everyone.

 

[will10]

so who do you think will beat him?

There's several guys who certainly wouldn't be crushed for a 1 min+ in 35km. Wiggins, Froome, Contador, Cancellara, Phinney, Evans, hell even Tejay.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

It doesn't seem to be a TT where too many riders bothered, given the huge gaps in the top-10 already. Uran is 10th, a minute down on no. 8...

yeah whatever hater. just look at the names around them, says enough

 

[postmanhat]

Just caught up with the highlights and a very decent showing from Josh Edmonson. 7th up the mountain yesterday and 16th overall.

Seems to be out of the blocks better than JTL. Is JTL still in training mode?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

There's several guys who certainly wouldn't be crushed for a 1 min+ in 35km. Wiggins, Froome, Contador, Cancellara, Phinney, Evans, hell even Tejay.

fair enough, not crushed agree. And I also agree with everybody that these can beat Martin in the 2nd TT in the tour, but what about longish power routes? Imo only Wiggo has a chance and only if he has the same form as last year. I think Cancellara will focus on other targets, Phinney just that little too "young" and everybody else are one step below in general. Anyway time will tell.

(note chance means no mishaps for anybody)

 

[Cycle Chic]

Just caught up with the highlights and a very decent showing from Josh Edmonson. 7th up the mountain yesterday and 16th overall.

Seems to be out of the blocks better than JTL. Is JTL still in training mode?

JTL on twitter. Looks like he was TOLD to be bottle carrier...sounded a bit miffed that he,s being held in the blocks.

 

[The Blues]

I'm not so sure Tony is going to smoke everybody in the time trials this year. Cancellara, Wiggins, Phinney and Froome can perform at the same level, I think. In the Tour there'll probably be even more guys able to somewhat match him like AC, Evans and Tejay.