2013 Vuelta a España, Stage 12: Maella→Tarragona (164 km)

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Netserk said:
I'm quite sure that neither the hairpin (it's relatively wide and on an incline) nor the roundabout in the final will cause any crashes.

This is the 'hairpin':
Thanks. That doesn't look to bad - I thought from the map it would be tighter.
 
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race is on and there is already a 3 member break with 3 min adv.

i think today's intermediate sprints and the cat 3 KOM mountain classification is decided. The only thing we have to check is the order of the 3.


just hoping that the gc riders will prove me wrong by riding for the extra bonus points.
 
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Break is:

86. Romain Zingle (Bel), Cofidis, at 1:06:52
128. Cédric Pineau (Fra), FDJ, at 1:30:41
140. Fabricio Ferrari Barcelo (Uru), Caja Rural, at 1:37:49

Don't think our stage winner is coming from these boys!
 
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Netserk said:
Has Caja Rural been in a break away in (almost) all stages?

They didn't have in the Tony stage, but other than that?
The TM stage doesn't count, just the same way as the TTT and the ITT stage dont count.

Apart from that, i cant remember a single stage where there was no CJR rider. Someone should confrm regarding stage 10. I didn't watch that stage.

Also check stage 4 and 6.in all other stages, a CJR rider has taken either an intermediate sprint or a KOM point while in the break with ARAMENDIA LORENTE Javier Francisco, FERRARI BARCELO  Fabricio, or PIEDRA PEREZ  Antonio. And Amets TXURRUKA had featured in a lot of attempted attacks later in the stage.


Apart from CJR and Netapp, whish is the other wild card team?
 
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murali said:
The TM stage doesn't count, just the same way as the TTT and the ITT stage dont count.

Apart from that, i cant remember a single stage where there was no CJR rider. Someone should confrm regarding stage 10. I didn't watch that stage.

Also check stage 4 and 6.in all other stages, a CJR rider has taken either an intermediate sprint or a KOM point while in the break with ARAMENDIA LORENTE Javier Francisco, FERRARI BARCELO**Fabricio, or PIEDRA PEREZ**Antonio. And Amets TXURRUKA had featured in a lot of attempted attacks later in the stage.


Apart from CJR and Netapp, whish is the other wild card team?
The break on stage 10 was about 20 riders. Can't remember who was in it though.

Cofidas are the other widecard.

CJR are in danger of taking over the mantle of "Token Break Artists" from AG2R... :D
 
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From liveupdateguy: http://liveupdateguy.com/

"Orica Greenedge is moving to the front of the peloton as the gap hits 5:45 and quite obvious that Astana doesn't give a rat's rear how much time these guys get. Matthews is achin' for the stage win, I'm sure. We can also expect other sprinters' teams to join in the effort as the finish approaches."

Nibs telling his boys to save energy so they can destroy everyone in the mountains :cool::D
 
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fraserhughes said:
We can also expect other sprinters' teams to join in the effort as the finish approaches."
Which other team? OPQS lost a rider in the TT, and fenn was DQed earlier. so they don't have firepower to both chase and win today. I don't know whether there are any other team who can bring back a break.

so which team is expected to join OGE?
 
murali said:
Which other team? OPQS lost a rider in the TT, and fenn was DQed earlier. so they don't have firepower to both chase and win today. I don't know whether there are any other team who can bring back a break.

so which team is expected to join OGE?
Possibly Garmin, for Farrar.
 
Argos will chase of course, it's the only thing they can.

And Tony Martin alone can bring back this breakaway

If any team will be able to keep it together in the end will be another matter
 
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i was away for a while. anything happened in the last hour?


TM is in the back of peloton. there is a chance for break away then
 
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the break will be caught without OPQS effort?

this is the easiest TV time gifted to any group of riders
 
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33km to go and gap of just 2 min.

i think OGE will catch them before 10km banner.
i dont understand this tactic. wont that mean that anyone can attack with 5-10 km to go?
 
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murali said:
33km to go and gap of just 2 min.

i think OGE will catch them before 10km banner.
i dont understand this tactic. wont that mean that anyone can attack with 5-10 km to go?
Don't the principle chasing team normally let riders 'hang' out in front a bit to avoid catching too fast by knocking off the pace slightly ?
 
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i think GC riders are looking for the bonus secs in the second intermediate sprint.


22 sec gap
 
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Pulpstar said:
Don't the principle chasing team normally let riders 'hang' out in front a bit to avoid catching too fast by knocking off the pace slightly ?
I think they are just fighting for road position/keeping safe and that has had the inadvertent effect of bring the gap down quickly.
 

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