2014 Giro d'Italia, Stage 12 Barbaresco → Barolo 41,9 km ITT

[Rollthedice]

uran will climb just as well as last year. working on your itt doewsn't mean you become a lesser climber. but pls find any fisiologic evidence for this. and uran gained no weight btw to make this improvement

He did one good climb this year, in February, Green Mountain. That's all so we don't know. Based on Romandie TT we could predict he'll be strong in TT, he exceeded expectations. As for climbing, he didn't prove a thing this year.

 

[ILovecycling]

Uran must've sacrificed some of his climbing speed to become this TT beast. After all the b*tching, this is shaping up very nicely.

Pozzo and Quintana will go ape in the mountains for sure.

People saying this Giro is over... no way. There are maybe 12 or 13 serious climbs yet, and they won't be ridden like they have been so far.
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Both great posts,I agree with you in every single word!

uran will climb just as well as last year. working on your itt doewsn't mean you become a lesser climber. but pls find any fisiologic evidence for this. and uran gained no weight btw to make this improvement

There is not an evidence of course,it doesnt mean you are a worse climber when better TT...but logic tells me he trained TT more than his climbing in comparison with other winters.It can be a factor but its not sure.Personally I think he will climb more or less the same like last year,but if Quintana recovers a bit (he won't be in topform of course,this is pretty clear now) he will climb better than Rigo,question is if it will be enough to erase over 3 minute.
IMO Nairo can take 30-45 secs on Grappa solo if he gets better.

 

[BigMac]

- Enters Cn's front page.

- See's stage 12 news.

- Cries a lot.

- Gets ultra mad.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

He did one good climb this year, in February, Green Mountain. That's all so we don't know. Based on Romandie TT we could predict he'll be strong in TT, he exceeded expectations. As for climbing, he didn't prove a thing this year.

yeah I'm sure he peaked at all those races so they are a real indication for his climbing

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

yeah I'm sure he peaked at all those races so they are a real indication for his climbing

Since Froome some people have forgotten that riders usually don't peak for more than 1 or 2 races a year.

 

[ILovecycling]

yeah I'm sure he peaked at all those races so they are a real indication for his climbing

this

10 ch

 

[Netserk]

Uran peaking like an angel _O_

/jens_attacks

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Uran peaking like an angel _O_

/jens_attacks

Jens_attacks is a wise man Netserk

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Both great posts,I agree with you in every single word!


There is not an evidence of course,it doesnt mean you are a worse climber when better TT...but logic tells me he trained TT more than his climbing in comparison with other winters.It can be a factor but its not sure.Personally I think he will climb more or less the same like last year,but if Quintana recovers a bit (he won't be in topform of course,this is pretty clear now) he will climb better than Rigo,question is if it will be enough to erase over 3 minute.
IMO Nairo can take 30-45 secs on Grappa solo if he gets better.

there's not much to train about climbing. you either can or you can't. all you can do is lose weight

 

[Eshnar]

Will Quintana pull a Betancur not attacking his fellow Colombian?

 

[PirazziAttacksVino]

I basically imagined the whole 3rd week with Evans having a 3 minute lead over Quintana, which the Colombian could nullify with ease. But 3:29 to Uran looks to be a too big margin for Nairo to handle. Uran is at 100% atm and I'm not sure if a 70% at best Quintana can pull this off.

Also, surprising riding from Ulissi this Giro. Reminds me of Santambrogio. Oh, wait

 

[spanky wanderlust]

is svein tuft intentionally trying to come in last?

or is he really just that terrible right now? i thought he would gain time over lots of people in the time trial. is he injured?

 

[willbick]

there's not much to train about climbing. you either can or you can't. all you can do is lose weight

you really are an incurable romantic!

 

[willbick]

is svein tuft intentionally trying to come in last?

or is he really just that terrible right now? i thought he would gain time over lots of people in the time trial. is he injured?

he had a bad crash a few days ago and probably didnt feel up to making a big effort with all the work he's done for his team-mates up to now. probably too hilly for him anyway

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Will Quintana pull a Betancur not attacking his fellow Colombian?

betancurt doesn't not just follow countrymen, he is from antioquia(like uran, henao, arredondo and many more) colombia is very seperatist in it states form and quintana is from boyaca, the opposite of antoquia so don't worrie

 

[movingtarget]

is svein tuft intentionally trying to come in last?

or is he really just that terrible right now? i thought he would gain time over lots of people in the time trial. is he injured?

He had a heavy fall a few stages ago. Looked pretty banged up.

 

[ILovecycling]

there's not much to train about climbing. you either can or you can't. all you can do is lose weight

More or less you are almost right,its not like TT or cobbles,but there is a big thing you can do...climbing peak.If he didnt train climbing sufficiently,his legs can be a bit 'unprepared' for whats to come.And there is a lot to come

 

[movingtarget]

I basically imagined the whole 3rd week with Evans having a 3 minute lead over Quintana, which the Colombian could nullify with ease. But 3:29 to Uran looks to be a too big margin for Nairo to handle. Uran is at 100% atm and I'm not sure if a 70% at best Quintana can pull this off.

Also, surprising riding from Ulissi this Giro. Reminds me of Santambrogio. Oh, wait

Ulissi winning hilly stages does not surprise me but today's ride really surprised me. Even Sean Kelly could not believe it. Santambrogio ? Makes me think of Santa Claus. Not it's not a flying pig it's Santa and his reindeer.

 

[trevim]

Well, he didn't

117 CARDOSO AndréGarmin Sharp7:5238.696
131 DEKKER ThomasGarmin Sharp8:1138.510

Wow he should consider retirement although Cardoso probably was flat out

 

[pastronef]

- Enters Cn's front page.

- See's stage 12 news.

- Cries a lot.

- Gets ultra mad.

great post

 

[christopherrowe]

Here are today's additions to the 2014 Giro Book of the Fallen.

Stage 12
DNS Chris Anker Sørensen (Den) Tinkoff-Saxo
DNF Tobias Ludvigsson (Swe) Giant-Shimano

Sørensen is Tinkoff-Saxo's first rider out and Ludvigsson is Giant-Shimano's second. They are the the twenty-third and twenty-fourth retirees from the race. (Well, retirees or ejectees considering OTL finishes.)

 

[willbick]

Ulissi winning hilly stages does not surprise me but today's ride really surprised me. Even Sean Kelly could not believe it. Santambrogio ? Makes me think of Santa Claus. Not it's not a flying pig it's Santa and his reindeer.

i think a lot of good riders (whether they are puncheur types like ulissi or sprinters like Kittel) are capable of doing surprisingly good TTs because 90% of the time they are not trying in a TT because it isnt their goal. In the case of Ulissi today he obviously made a big effort because it is his home tour and he is in good shape, but normally he wouldnt try very hard in a TT

 

[Taxus4a]

I am very happy, I have been a bif Uran cycling fan since he was 20 years old. I predicted he would be the new Hinault... It is not like that, but he is getting the place he deserve.

He has worked the time trial this year a lot, and he has focused all for the Giro...he has an strong team, and he is been lucky with his rivals, so has everything to win this Giro, but that is not always easy.

I see Pozzovivo as the best climber, and Quintana could get his best shape still.
evans will be always there, and Basso could reach the podium, but if he want to win he must take risk and give people a great Giro... othe way this is going to be a De Gent, Poels, Bambrilla pace Giro, and some final attack from Quintana and Pozzo...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

i think a lot of good riders (whether they are puncheur types like ulissi or sprinters like Kittel) are capable of doing surprisingly good TTs because 90% of the time they are not trying in a TT because it isnt their goal. In the case of Ulissi today he obviously made a big effort because it is his home tour and he is in good shape, but normally he wouldnt try very hard in a TT

I could give a number of itt results of ulissi that are very good, so it's not that surprising considering his form. I only thought he wouldn't be motivated and still hurt

 

[rghysens]

Haha true... in modernish era?

Armstrong in the tdf 2001 (or doesn't that count?): from 20' behind François Simon to 17' ahead. But Simon was never considered to be a contender.