2014 Giro d'Italia, Stage 13: Fossano → Rivarolo Canavese (157 km)

[classicomano]

On to the next stage please.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Screw the non-chase, the biggest mystery to me is how Tulik can beat Kristoff et al, and lose against these bums

 

[willbick]

Screw the non-chase, the biggest mystery to me is how Tulik can beat Kristoff et al, and lose against these bums

Its because he was knackered.

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

Screw the non-chase, the biggest mystery to me is how Tulik can beat Kristoff et al, and lose against these bums

You thinking of this?

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=24918

Tulik won from an attack. The sprinters caught him on the line.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Its because he was knackered.

But he did less work than others, it makes no sense to be more knackered than the climber...

 

[GuyIncognito]

You thinking of this?

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=24918

Tulik won from an attack. The sprinters caught him on the line.

I thought his first win was the Roue Tourangelle this year.
Didn't know he'd won that.

I can't remember the race but I've seen him more than once lead out Reza or Coquard and still finish ahead of several good sprinters.

 

[willbick]

Obvious win for the break

.............

 

[wirral]

Look at the sprint, the Europcar guy was in way too small a gear. The question is how did that arise.

 

[wirral]

Lol of course. They have the money and the guts to go to every team in the peloton to buy the win

Lol. You have no idea. This is Italy not Sweden. Anything can be arranged. You think a little quid pro quo between teams with Italian sprinters sick of seeing a cocky Frenchman win every sprint is not possible. I assure you it is very possible.

 

[Arnout]

Lol. You have no idea. This is Italy not Sweden. Anything can be arranged. You think a little quid pro quo between teams with Italian sprinters sick of seeing a cocky Frenchman win every sprint is not possible. I assure you it is very possible.

FdJ and Trek much Italian. So Garmin.

 

[willbick]

Lol. You have no idea. This is Italy not Sweden. Anything can be arranged. You think a little quid pro quo between teams with Italian sprinters sick of seeing a cocky Frenchman win every sprint is not possible. I assure you it is very possible.

Do you mean the likes of Cannondale and Trek didnt chase because they didnt want their sprinters to be beaten by Bouhanni again?

 

[Arnout]

Do you mean the likes of Cannondale and Trek didnt chase because they didnt want their sprinters to be beaten by Bouhanni again?

That was exactly what was going on. It's not because Bardiani gave them money though.

 

[willbick]

But surely finishes 2nd or 3rd with bouhanni 1st is better than finishing 5th or 6th?? And its never certain that bouhanni will win anyway. Sounds a bit silly to me

 

[veji11]

meh.. regarding the peloton, to me it is just poor bluffing all around.. FDJ should have said way earlier "I don't care, we have won 3 stages and if we don't catch them it helps us for the red jersey, so you take care of it", not do all the work (clearly showing that they do care) to stop 15ks from the line suddenly... The other teams don't like to be told what to do, they first say "**** off" and by the time they compute that it is still their interest to go a it, it is too late... Amateurism all around.

Regarding the final sprint in the trio, Tulik says his legs were hard from the rain and he couldn't do more... well.

 

[willbick]

Quick question guys. Watching the last greenedge backstage pass about how they were all struggling to keep going it occured to me , has a team (in recent history) ever had no riders complete a Grand tour?

 

[shalgo]

Quick question guys. Watching the last greenedge backstage pass about how they were all struggling to keep going it occured to me , has a team (in recent history) ever had no riders complete a Grand tour?

Well, there was the 1998 TDF.

And the whole PDM team dropped out of the 1991 TDF with food poisoning.

 

[christopherrowe]

Quick question guys. Watching the last greenedge backstage pass about how they were all struggling to keep going it occured to me , has a team (in recent history) ever had no riders complete a Grand tour?

Well, at the risk of rating a warning from a moderator, there have been various teams who withdrew en masse. Cofidis from the Tour de France in 2007, for example.

 

[WillemS]

Seems that Gusev spoiled your hopes. He is Ok, up and riding.

I hope he's fine. I did not have an opportunity to watch today, as I was training this afternoon.

 

[willbick]

Well, at the risk of rating a warning from a moderator, there have been various teams who withdrew en masse. Cofidis from the Tour de France in 2007, for example.

well yes but that wasnt really what i was getting at!

in fact i suppose the question could be widened to 'has a team ever had no rider complete any stage race', by which i mean riders dropping out individually thru injury, illness, fatigue, or whatever

 

[Dazed and Confused]

meh.. regarding the peloton, to me it is just poor bluffing all around.. FDJ should have said way earlier "I don't care, we have won 3 stages and if we don't catch them it helps us for the red jersey, so you take care of it", not do all the work (clearly showing that they do care) to stop 15ks from the line suddenly... The other teams don't like to be told what to do, they first say "**** off" and by the time they compute that it is still their interest to go a it, it is too late... Amateurism all around.

Regarding the final sprint in the trio, Tulik says his legs were hard from the rain and he couldn't do more... well.

Agree.

Anyway this stage will quickly be forgotten.

 

[jaylew]

Nice to see Uran wearing team shorts rather than kitting up entirely in pink.

Too early for that. They usually wait a while. If he stays in the jersey we'll see the pink shorts eventually. At least I hope we will as I think it looks better. I don't like it when the jersey and bibs clash.

 

[roundabout]

I make a conscious effort to miss the stage and then a break wins.

 

[christopherrowe]

well yes but that wasnt really what i was getting at!

in fact i suppose the question could be widened to 'has a team ever had no rider complete any stage race', by which i mean riders dropping out individually thru injury, illness, fatigue, or whatever

I'm looking, but it's proving remarkably hard (for which read "tedious") to research. I think there were several mid-20th century Tours de France when there were national and regional teams where it happened, but I take it your confining your question to the 21st century?

 

[willbick]

Agree.

Anyway this stage will quickly be forgotten.

lol. if the break gets caught on a flat stage and there's the usual bunch sprint its 'boring', if the break doesnt get caught its a 'fix' and still 'boring'!!!

you guys are hard to please

 

[willbick]

I'm looking, but it's proving remarkably hard (for which read "tedious") to research. I think there were several mid-20th century Tours de France when there were national and regional teams where it happened, but I take it your confining your question to the 21st century?

thanks for yr interest. i would say it applies to any period when races were trade teams. but say about the last 30 years