Christ, this can't go wrong.MatParker117 said:Don't forget the opening Time Trial for Wiggo/Froome.
Christ, this can't go wrong.MatParker117 said:Don't forget the opening Time Trial for Wiggo/Froome.
MONEY?Bavarianrider said:Seriously, why the heck is the Tour starting in one of Europe's most waterdown trashyards?
Spoken by a troll who most likely has never been.Bavarianrider said:Seriously, why the heck is the Tour starting in one of Europe's most waterdown trashyards?
What does WWI have to do with cycling?El Pistolero said:I think it's great they're starting in a city that was barely affected by World War I, directly that is.
1914 --> 2014Arnout said:What does WWI have to do with cycling?
In 2015 it will be the 200th anniversary of Waterloo and the 600th anniversary of Agincourt. Which do you think the French will choose to commerate?El Pistolero said:1914 --> 2014
Cycling is a sport where history is important.
That was hardly their real reason, more like maintaining the status quo on Continental Europe.Waterloo Sunrise said:El P might like to reflect on whether or not an entire generation of Yorkshire men was decimated in the war which hardly affected them, trying to fight for Belgium's freedom.
Yeah, I get that. I just don't see why cycling should get involved in remembrances like this. Cycling and war history are unrelated.El Pistolero said:1914 --> 2014
Cycling is a sport where history is important.
Many great cyclists died during the first World War. Paris-Roubaix got its nickname "hell of the north" because of the first World War.Arnout said:Yeah, I get that. I just don't see why cycling should get involved in remembrances like this. Cycling and war history are unrelated.
The TDF is a pro bike race not a TV holiday review show. The racing can be potentially good depending on the route and thats the main thing.Bavarianrider said:Seriously, why the heck is the Tour starting in one of Europe's most waterdown trashyards?
2014 is also the 50th anniversary of Poulidor vs. Anquetil on the Puy de Dome. I think that would be history that would be better celebrated during the Tour.El Pistolero said:1914 --> 2014
Cycling is a sport where history is important.
Started in Liege this year and i'm not going back to that place after a brief visit on holiday once.Bavarianrider said:Seriously, why the heck is the Tour starting in one of Europe's most waterdown trashyards?
What's wrong with Liège? It's a beautiful city. Every city has it ugly spots of course, but are you never going to New York again because of the Bronx?Frosty said:Started in Liege this year and i'm not going back to that place after my visit in 2010.
So's Nottingham - don't see it going there soon unless on the monster Leeds London stage down the M1.El Pistolero said:And it happens to be a city related to cycling.![]()
Liege? You serious? That's the crappiest city in continental Europe bar Charleroi (and yes I've been in both).El Pistolero said:What's wrong with Liège? It's a beautiful city. Every city has it ugly spots of course, but are you never going to New York again because of the Bronx?
And it happens to be a city related to cycling.![]()
Cycling in Nottingham is actually an oxymoron.Tom375 said:So's Nottingham - don't see it going there soon unless on the monster Leeds London stage down the M1.
I see you've also been to every other continental European city. I'm sure there's some Russian cities where they'd love to sell you some krokodil tears.Arnout said:Liege? You serious? That's the crappiest city in continental Europe bar Charleroi (and yes I've been in both).
No, the Bronx wouldnt put me off but Liege does put me off going to Liege againEl Pistolero said:What's wrong with Liège? It's a beautiful city. Every city has it ugly spots of course, but are you never going to New York again because of the Bronx?
I guess you'll have to wait for a British rider to do well in LBL then.Frosty said:No, the Bronx wouldnt put me off but Liege does put me off going to Liege again![]()