2014 Tirreno Adriatico, Stage 7: San Benedetto del Tronto TT (9.1 Km)

[will10]

Yeah, no-one in the history of cycling has ever faked looking tired have they...

Bluffing in a road stage is a world apart from pretending to look tired in a TT...

 

[Escarabajo]

how does Quintana go so well on a short flat TT? i mean he beat Sagan ffs! im not hinting at anything, i simply find it amazing! (and yes i know he's a v talented rider but he's 50kg for god's sake!!)

Pais Vasco flasbacks again!!!

We have covered this a lot last year.

On a longer flat TT he will loose to the heavier stronger guys. On short, ondulated or mountain TT Quintana is just as good or better than them.

Myth: Where is this coming from about Quintana's not being a good TT? he is good.

 

[theyoungest]

Pais Vasco flasbacks again!!!

We have covered this a lot last year.

On a longer flat TT he will loose to the heavier stronger guys. On short, ondulated or mountain TT Quintana is just as good or better than them.

Myth: Where is this coming from about Quintana's not being a good TT? he is good.

Well, not exactly good... just adequate, certainly given his size.

I mean, he lost 3 minutes to Froome in the flat Tour TT last year, similar to Purito.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Saving himself, but pushing hard at the end, his times to Quintana suggest this.

saving yourself on a 9 km flat effort??!! mother of god the cluelessness here is baffling. I can't facepalm enough here

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

how does Quintana go so well on a short flat TT? i mean he beat Sagan ffs! im not hinting at anything, i simply find it amazing! (and yes i know he's a v talented rider but he's 50kg for god's sake!!)

he was always a good natural itt guy in flat. now he is focussing more on it though and he will be left with no real weaknesses anymore

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Arredondo held pretty well in the end

this surprised me too. he was one of the worst itt guys around

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Pais Vasco flasbacks again!!!

We have covered this a lot last year.

On a longer flat TT he will loose to the heavier stronger guys. On short, ondulated or mountain TT Quintana is just as good or better than them.

Myth: Where is this coming from about Quintana's not being a good TT? he is good.

you are wrong about short itt.s the longer the itt gets wether flat or climb the better quintana gets. he is a diesel and unexplosive. this itt couldn't suit him any worse almost. also quintana rode the 2nd part of todays itt a lot faster than the first.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Well, not exactly good... just adequate, certainly given his size.

I mean, he lost 3 minutes to Froome in the flat Tour TT last year, similar to Purito.

clearly a bad day. could not find a similar bad itt from him in his entire career that he went full in

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Arredondo held pretty well in the end

Yeah, I actually thought he might drop out the top-10. Is also clearly GC material even though he only seemed to care about stage wins and one day races, judging fromn that inbterview that was posted here a while ago.

 

[Arredondo]

this surprised me too. he was one of the worst itt guys around

He already rode a good TT in San Luis, so i didn't expected that he loosed more than 1 place in GC

 

[Arredondo]

Yeah, I actually thought he might drop out the top-10. Is also clearly GC material even though he only seemed to care about stage wins and one day races, judging fromn that inbterview that was posted here a while ago.

http://www.trekfactoryracing.com/news/cancellara-second-final-tt

Here he says he surprised himself with his 5th place in GC, but now he hopes he can win TA one day himself. So he's changing his opinion rapidly

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

arredondo is a rider with the same characteristics as betancurt except he has a bit heavier gear. but in everything else he is the same type. will be interestign to follow but he will be 100% a guy for the classics

 

[Kokoso]

I think we can collect Ryos fail - quotes. Is he just trolling or what?

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resultspls because I can never remember a great short itt by him. he's so overrated

moreno is a more than fine itt rider

his itt's this year so far have all been very bad. still he will gow ith quintana to colombia to prpeare for giro. so I hope he will come back flying and teahc quintana a thing or 2 about itt

Anyway, Kreuziger rode very good T - A as a preparation for classics. Even improved final ITT a lot compared to last two years and did fairly well. Quintana improved his game in this field with this result, definitely!

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

 

[willbick]

Sagan probably wasn't pushing it too much, and Quintana probably was going all out to maintain his 2nd.

The time trial being only 9 Km's also helps. He'd be farther back in a flat long time trial. Quintana's not necessarily a bad time trialer. He's not of the level of say Froome or Contador (in his prime), but definitely not of the level of Purito or Schleck either.

I seriously hope thats the case coz i just find the idea of a guy like quintana being able to ride 10k on the flat faster than Sagan as ludicrous. I suppose its possible wind conds may have changed between their runs. I dunno how much time apart they rode

 

[Escarabajo]

you are wrong about short itt.s the longer the itt gets wether flat or climb the better quintana gets. he is a diesel and unexplosive. this itt couldn't suit him any worse almost. also quintana rode the 2nd part of todays itt a lot faster than the first.

On a flat longer TT he is fighting against Mother Nature Ryo. He'll always be on disadvantage. This one was just too short. So he could go full gas from beginning, but cannot keep it like that on longer ones.

 

[ILovecycling]

I think we can collect Ryos fail - quotes. Is he just trolling or what?

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Anyway, Kreuziger rode very good T - A as a preparation for classics. Even improved final ITT a lot compared to last two years and did fairly well. Quintana improved his game in this field with this result, definitely!

Lol,what trolling,he is at least top10 members in cycling knowledge at this forum.Everybody can be wrong time to time.
It looks like you have a very doubtful knowledge of cycling with your predictions and hyping which is not even close to the truth...
Onto the ignore.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Lol,what trolling,he is at least top10 members in cycling knowledge at this forum.Everybody can be wrong time to time.
It looks like you have a very doubtful knowledge of cycling with your predictions and hyping which is not even close to the truth...
Onto the ignore.

Lol... Are you serious?

 

[ILovecycling]

Lol... Are you serious?

What particularly?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

On a flat longer TT he is fighting against Mother Nature Ryo. He'll always be on disadvantage. This one was just too short. So he could go full gas from beginning, but cannot keep it like that on longer ones.

why not? what kind of ridiuclous idea of fysiology is that? no one can keep up like that but quintana is goign to lose less speed than most others being the diesel powerhouse that he is. good example is his u23 itt in 2009 where hr ronde one of the fastest final splits.

 

[theyoungest]

why not? what kind of ridiuclous idea of fysiology is that? no one can keep up like that but quintana is goign to lose less speed than most others being the diesel powerhouse that he is. good example is his u23 itt in 2009 where hr ronde one of the fastest final splits.

Mendrisio was a somewhat hilly TT. A better example is Copenhagen, completely flat, and diesel powerhouse Quintana ended up 47th on 4 minutes.

 

[LaFlorecita]

What particularly?

Everything, actually.

 

[ILovecycling]

Everything, actually.

About ryo -yes,about kokoso-yes,about ignore-yes

Im serious about everything,i dont use irony,coz i dont know precisely how

 

[Escarabajo]

why not? what kind of ridiuclous idea of fysiology is that? no one can keep up like that but quintana is goign to lose less speed than most others being the diesel powerhouse that he is. good example is his u23 itt in 2009 where hr ronde one of the fastest final splits.

Sorry but I don't understand your logic.

Historically speaking, small riders, almost always, have not fared well on flat longer course. How do youi explain that? that is nature. Smaller versus big. Simple. Even if you have a big engine big guys will have an edge on the smaller guys.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Mendrisio was a somewhat hilly TT. A better example is Copenhagen, completely flat, and diesel powerhouse Quintana ended up 47th on 4 minutes.

in copenhagen he only rode as a last minute substitute for the itt because he was in bad shape after his crash in avenir where he evn had to retire. also the itt in mendrisio was done in 49 km/h by bobridge, which was the same speed durbridge won in copenhagen. yeah real hilly mendrisio...