2014 Tour de France July 23, Stage 17: Saint-Gaudens - Saint-Lary-Soulan Pla d'Adet 1

[murali]

i think netserk or someother veteran should come to rescue here.

afaik, faster race gives the grouppetto enuf advanced info to know how to come within time.
in slower race, the fireworks go off very late. they may not be able to judge properly.

among all the stages i remember, the groupetto makes it in faster races. in slower races, i have seen them come just 5 min within time limit.

(it may just be me remembering such instances alone.)

 

[Ryongsyong]

No, just no. Read the numbers on the image again.

I don't think you understand him. He's saying that he thinks since the stage today is short, even though the cut off would be extended by a high average speed, it's not extended by very much since the finish time will be comparatively small, considering there are still a load of huge mountains in it, hence it's harder to meet the time criteria.

 

[mb2612]

No, just no. Read the numbers on the image again.

Assume 40 km/h vs 52 for the flat first 50 km. Assume 28 km/h in both cases for the hills. Then the time difference for the whole stage is 17 minutes, however after the time limit is only 13 minutes later, meaning the sprinters have to climb for minutes faster.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Here we go, let's see who makes the break.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Purito and Schleck going. Thomas, Roche, Nieve and Majka there too.

 

[trevim]

Schleck!!!!

 

[Frosty]

Valverde on the attack

 

[cineteq]

Today could be epic!!!

 

[SafeBet]

Total chaos!

 

[Carols]

Valverde Vamos

 

[Pricey_sky]

This could be brilliant, a mega break and Valverde there too?

 

[thrawn]

Just tuned in. Is Valverde off the front???

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

This is sweet. Valverde on the attack.

 

[vcampbell]

I have no sound, I can only see that riders are everywhere. Wow

 

[icefire]

All teams except FDJ, Lampre and Lotto have slept in Spain last night. Movistar to go full throttle!

All former riders I've heard commentating stages agree that hotels are worse in the TdF than in the Vuelta.

Active riders also have a word on the topic:
https://twitter.com/petosagan/status/491240550440656896

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

Pretty sure it was Rojas, not Valverde.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Pretty sure it was Rojas, not Valverde.

Yes your right.

 

[Frosty]

Number 18 (Rojas) was definitely there. Think commentators might have been mistaken?

Nibali with only two team mates at the front.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

yeah Belgian commentators also saying Rojas and not Valverde.....

but Mollema and Schleck are definitely in the attack

 

[meat puppet]

Pretty sure it was Rojas, not Valverde.

not valverde.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I thought Valverde was on the attack, but maybe not.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Astana not letting this break go, Purito pushes on with Majka.

 

[kurtinsc]

Purito needs to go again soon and try to shake Majka, right? Or will he be content to fight with him for the points?

 

[Carols]

My old eyes are bad but it sure looked like Valverde to me!

 

[Ryongsyong]

People need to stop going on about Valverde. He is cooked, and has been for days. Somehow he's managed to maintain his second but today he will almost certainly lose it. He certainly won't be gaining time on Nibbles, that's for sure.