2014 Volta Catalunya stage 4: Alp › Vallter 2000-Setcases 166.4 Km

[Kazistuta]

i didnt mean mountain goat
he is not able climb mountains "very well",he is not even Top10 climbers in the world

So you say "not a climber" of every rider not being a top10 climber in the world? Considering the names you think has a better shot at a GT win, I really can't follow your logic. Pinot, Talansky and Aru, come'on!? Neither one of them is among the best climbers in the world either

All three are great talents, but TJ has so far shown much more consistency than all three. Granted, he has disappointed as well, and he is a diesel lacking some explosivity, but I think your definition of climber is far fetched.

And btw. I'm not hyping TJVG to be the next GT winner, but he has the potential to be a top3 contender considering his skillset. And I also think it's unjustified to label him "not a climber"...

 

[TANK91]

Based on what? His subpar Tour last year? There could be a number of factors that played into his lack of showing. He may not have responded well to the indecisions regarding who was riding for what on BMC.

I'm not saying he's the next Lucho, but it's still too early in his career to right him off as a total GC bust. The kid has a lot of potential. He reminds me of a young Bobby Julich: he may not win the Tour or the Vuelta, but he's got the talent to compete and hang with the best.

His level will be around 6th to 7th in the TDF, which is fine no shame in that the dude has lost his marbles no one wins today if you cant climb well, even the ridicolous TDF parcours wiggo won you still need to climb mountains well.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Good call. Congrats'.

I thought those polls were anonymous

 

[Moviefan1203]

Great win for Van Garderen, the kid just keeps improving every season. He's a great talent.

Good day to be an American!

 

[Hugo Koblet]

I'm pretty sure it was Talansky and not Martin finishing 6th. Certainly looked like him.

 

[TANK91]

Exactly TJVG fits the mode far more than people like even Mollema as he is a good ITT'er who can hang on in mountains. He as a good chance of top 5 with no Quintana and Purito will be tough though.

 

[Hugo87]

I'm pretty sure it was Talansky and not Martin finishing 6th. Certainly looked like him.

It's Talansky, they already correct it on the website's too.

 

[Netserk]

I thought those polls were anonymous

I thought it stated that it was a public poll, and that everyone can click on the numbers and check who voted what

 

[Netserk]

lol @ del voting for TJVG after the stage ended

 

[Afrank]

I thought those polls were anonymous

Some are some aren't, it's up to the creator whether they want votes to be public or not.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Exactly TJVG fits the mode far more than people like even Mollema as he is a good ITT'er who can hang on in mountains. He as a good chance of top 5 with no Quintana and Purito will be tough though.

What are you trying to say? do you think TJVG he has a good chance of top 5 with or without Quintana/JRod??

 

[SKSemtex]

I wonder if Quitana does not regret now that he changed Tour for Giro. Sky is shaking a little and Froome might be beatable after all.

 

[kingjr]

I thought those polls were anonymous

Anonymous polls are boring as hell

 

[Netserk]

lol @ del voting for TJVG after the stage ended

And Maaaaaaaarten joined in.

C'mon people there's no cookie if you vote after the race has ended.

 

[Afrank]

We all know the truth. Myself, Bye Bye Bicycle, NairoQ, and woodburn are the only ones to truly have earned the right to say we called this one.

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

By the way...

Contador
Amsterdam, Armchair cyclist, Avoriaz, benreynoldsnz, brilleaben, bursaomentalis, Cance > TheRest, Carols, Catwhoorg, Cimber, CrohnieRider, CycloAndy, Dedelou, etymology, fantomas, Ferminal, forkboy84, GJB123, gooner, GuyIncognito, Hugo Koblet, Iker_Baqueiro, ILovecycling, jens_attacks, Jspear, Jukebox, LaFlorecita, Lexman, Malmeren, martinvickers, maxmartin, melkemugg, MKirilenko, murali, Need2Ride, Netserk, nikohale, Opalius, pblazer, pdluz7, perico, phanatic, Popchu, Pricey_sky, PunchingRouleur, R0BL4MBT0N, Red Rick, robertocarlos, sacrifice&hardwork, seabridge, Shardi, Skibby the bush kangaroo, sometriguy, struklknedl, sultanofhyd, the sceptic, thirteen, thrawn, TommyPlus, Tournesol, veganrob, Vino attacks everyone, vino2001, webvan
64 52.89%

Dawg
archa55, b.broadhurst, bangnz, barmaher, bedders50, benswift3, benzwire, Bookbuild, Bumeington, chavenel2, Christian, funnie, Gerrans2, Guybrush, helium2, Honderclass, hydrogen2, iodine2, Kokoso, NUFCrichard, Publicus, quintana2, ralphbert, Spicco, stijndefieuw
25 20.66%

J-Rod
Arredondo, BoxCoppi, Butterhead, coimbrawu, contessador, Crevaison, Dazed and Confused, Flamin, Fzotrlool, Hugo87, MADRAZO, manafana, metaCYCLE, Mikeoc, Njbb1995, Peter von, RiccoDinko, Rollthedice, SKSemtex, The Blues, Wizard
21 17.36%

Quintana
gospina, karaev, Lanceo, Marco Pantani, Oltean_RO, saneguy, Somar13
7 5.79%

Pozzovivo 0 0%

TJVG
Afrank, Bye Bye Bicycle, NairoQ, woodburn

Called it!

To be honest I'd preferred Bardet to win.

 

[Poursuivant]

Hmm, an out of shape Froome only ceding 4/5 seconds to Rodriguez and Contador. I don't think he will be too worried about that. Dauphine will give more of an indication I would imagine

 

[peloton]

Based on what? His subpar Tour last year? There could be a number of factors that played into his lack of showing. He may not have responded well to the indecisions regarding who was riding for what on BMC.

I'm not saying he's the next Lucho, but it's still too early in his career to right him off as a total GC bust. The kid has a lot of potential. He reminds me of a young Bobby Julich: he may not win the Tour or the Vuelta, but he's got the talent to compete and hang with the best.

Absolutely agree, he has shown talent early on and is still young.
If he has a GT route that's favorable to him, a bit like Wiggo did, of course he can win a GT.

Nice win today, shame that we couldn't see almost any of it.

 

[icefire]

I wonder if Quitana does not regret now that he changed Tour for Giro. Sky is shaking a little and Froome might be beatable after all.

Porte is still more beatable

 

[SKSemtex]

Porte is still more beatable

no doubt .

But it could be really great to see fight of "big 4" in the Tour.

 

[barmaher]

I understand that there are conributing factors, not least the fact that this race may have been overhyped.

But does this race have the largest disparity between the expctation of fans and the action on the road?

 

[Miburo]

no doubt .

But it could be really great to see fight of "big 4" in the Tour.

Seems really boring. They just look at each other the whole time

 

[jens_attacks]

congrats to tejay, he improved a lot.
ag2r fuel never been that strong since massi and elli i guess. rock on!

 

[MatParker117]

I wonder if Quitana does not regret now that he changed Tour for Giro. Sky is shaking a little and Froome might be beatable after all.

With a 54KM TT at the end and the vast yawning chasm between the two in the discipline?

 

[Kokoso]

Looks like TJVG has improved in the mountains. But Let us not forget that he rode no time trial this year. Maybe he could get worse in them.