2015 GP Cyclistes: Québec et Montréal, Sep. 11 and 13

[TourOfTexas]

Uran is like the Colombian Vino.

 

[BigMac]

Thrilling finale. Field to strong again this year, which means no significant gaps after Montagne. Huge attack by GVA, followed by Kwiat, Costa and others, but ridiculously strong domestiques and other leaders made the group too big again. Hope that doesn't become the story of this race.

 

[Jagartrott]

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Good win for Uran, happy man. Congrats.

Disappointing race.

Reduce the team size to 6 please.

Agreed.
No attack sticks here.

 

[BigMac]

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Great win by Uran. Attacked at exactly the right moment. Very similar to Voecklers win in 2010.

Strong by Matthews and Kristoff to survive this, although Matthews ofcourse survived worse courses than this.

They will be put in their place come sunday. Hopefuly too hard for those likes.

 

[TourOfTexas]

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Good win for Uran, happy man. Congrats.

Disappointing race.

Reduce the team size to 6 please.

Agreed.
No attack sticks here.

Huh? The race was won by a solo attack. It hasn't been a bunch sprint in forever.

 

[Jagartrott]

If only GVA would save himself, control himself, he could do so much better in races like this. With that big a peloton, an attack 4 km from the finish will never ever last.

 

[Taxus4a]

I miss the race and Uran win. I am not surprised about that, he is one of the best of the world in hilly long clasic races.

 

[BigMac]

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Good win for Uran, happy man. Congrats.

Disappointing race.

Reduce the team size to 6 please.

Agreed.
No attack sticks here.

Huh? The race was won by a solo attack. It hasn't been a bunch sprint in forever.

Except last year. They don't mean attacks in the last part of the circuit, they mean attacks with laps to go, or at least longer ones.

 

[Taxus4a]

I see there is no any video of the race

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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If only GVA would save himself, control himself, he could do so much better in races like this. With that big a peloton, an attack 4 km from the finish will never ever last.

But then GVA would be the wheelsucker and boring rider. Gerrans #2

We like GVA because he doesn't wait.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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If only GVA would save himself, control himself, he could do so much better in races like this. With that big a peloton, an attack 4 km from the finish will never ever last.

But then GVA would be the wheelsucker and boring rider. Gerrans #2

We like GVA because he doesn't wait.

This But I agree with the above poster as well. GVA would win so many races if he was smart. Unfortunately for him and fortunately for us, he isn't.

 

[Jagartrott]

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Huh? The race was won by a solo attack. It hasn't been a bunch sprint in forever.

Except last year. They don't mean attacks in the last part of the circuit, they mean attacks with laps to go, or at least longer ones.

Exactly. Why would any big name attack with 1 or 2 laps to go?
They'll always get them back. Very nice scenery, very nice parcours, but essentially everything comes down to the final 4 km.

 

[Dead leaves]

Kristoff is a beast, really strong performance. I'm happy and looking forward to the worlds now.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Huh? The race was won by a solo attack. It hasn't been a bunch sprint in forever.

Except last year. They don't mean attacks in the last part of the circuit, they mean attacks with laps to go, or at least longer ones.

Exactly. Why would any big name attack with 1 or 2 laps to go?
They'll always get them back. Very nice scenery, very nice parcours, but essentially everything comes down to the final 4 km.

yeah look at Kelderman and Fuglsang. 2 very strong riders who can also hold a very good pace on the flat. They had no chance against the peloton.
And what about that whole group of 12/15 riders with Bardet, Barguil etc.. No chance also.
The flat part leading up to the climb is too long

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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I see there is no any video of the race

http://www.steephill.tv/players/youtube3/?title=Last+20+Km+of+GP+de+Quebec+2015&dashboard=grand-prix-cycliste-de-quebec&id=a3fjoBBbW-M&yr=2015

 

[Taxus4a]

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I see there is no any video of the race

http://www.steephill.tv/players/youtube3/?title=Last+20+Km+of+GP+de+Quebec+2015&dashboard=grand-prix-cycliste-de-quebec&id=a3fjoBBbW-M&yr=2015

Thank you very much, I didnt realized the race had just finished.

 

[Flamin]

Glad Uran saved us from a win from a bunch sprint. Unexpected winner.

The only other positive thing from this race is seeing Greg on the right path for the worlds.

 

[Finn84]

Uran is like the Colombian Vino.

I found this comment very fitting considering what happened in London Olympics. Though Vino > Rigoberto.

 

[Billie]

this race screams for smaller teams

 

[BigMac]

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this race screams for smaller teams

The first editions were better because, as the races were still fairly unknown to the peloton, and the type of parcours were still a mistery to riders, not many big names showed up, which meant that an attack by a main contender in, say, Montagne, wouldn't draw so many other cyclists behind, all with their chance to win. A couple of years ago an attack on the Côte de la Montagne would shatter the peloton the tiny groups, and a selection would be made. Last year and now, in Québec, with Costa and GVA respectively, they simply could not stay away nor create meaningful gaps, with so many contenders.

Add to that uber strong domestiques plus big teams and the race becomes too controlled.

At least Montréal will put everyone to a bigger test, and most of those are likely to be dropped on Camillien-Houde. I like Québec better, but Montréal is much harder. Will be satisfying to see Kristoff and Matthews roll their way back the peloton to the gruppetto. Montréal is also much more break friendly.

 

[TourOfTexas]

Uran is like the Colombian Vino.

I found this comment very fitting considering what happened in London Olympics. Though Vino > Rigoberto.

I meant that in a good way, too, just in case there was ambiguity. When Uran keeps his eyes forward he is a formidable one day racer!

 

[Taxus4a]

This is a nice race, with a nice escenario, and with the posibility to win for Boonen or Uran, how a world champioship shoud be.
Lot fs a, lot of important people there, and emotion till the end.

Uran has been in this situation with very good legs a lot of ocasions, in the Olimpics he at least managed to the silver (he wanst in good shape anyway) but other like in san sebastian he finish in a second plane.

He had a break when he was just 21 in his first year with Caisse, in Hamburg, when he showed his potential in this races not just climbing, but as well in the flat:

I uploaded this video then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbILcIP1O0Y

 

[TourOfTexas]

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Except last year. They don't mean attacks in the last part of the circuit, they mean attacks with laps to go, or at least longer ones.

Was last year really a bunch sprint? It was like a Gerrans solo chasing down a Dumoulin solo. Either way it was a lot more fun than a usual bunch gallop.

 

[jaylew]

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Uran has been in this situation with very good legs a lot of ocasions, in the Olimpics he at least managed to the silver (he wanst in good shape anyway) but other like in san sebastian he finish in a second plane.

I like this Uran more. He really is a good hilly classics rider; I wish he'd target them as much as he used to. Of course, he's got those 2 Lombardia podiums as well.

 

[dicanio_michael]

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If only GVA would save himself, control himself, he could do so much better in races like this. With that big a peloton, an attack 4 km from the finish will never ever last.

But then GVA would be the wheelsucker and boring rider. Gerrans #2

We like GVA because he doesn't wait.

This But I agree with the above poster as well. GVA would win so many races if he was smart. Unfortunately for him and fortunately for us, he isn't.

I don't think it was GVA fault today. It was a great move with Kwiatkowski and Simon Yates. They could stay away.
But Gibert was leading the peloton to chase him down. This is stupid tactics from BMC. Yet again they sent out someone, but did not trust the breakaway.