2015 tour d' fukushima thread

[danielovichdk2]

Don't compare 94 TT with this one. It's not the same.

 

[the sceptic]

everyone has better equipment and tailwinds these days

 

[Benotti69]

Tailwinds are faster in this era. There were no tailwinds in the EPO era...can't compare

 

[ebandit]

..........pan flat...........like a track without as many bends

Mark L

 

[the sceptic]

Re:

..........pan flat...........like a track without as many bends

Mark L

roads are flatter now?

 

[The Hitch]

Re:

Don't compare 94 TT with this one. It's not the same.

I think what is being compared to this one is not so much the 1994 tt but every tt ever ridden. Since in order to be the fastest tt ever you don't have to beat one other tt, you have to beat all of them.

Wasn't the Mont Saint Michelle tt 2 years ago also one of the fastest Itt's ever.

Looking back at some fast tts. Boardman in 1994 did 55.26 but Indurain was 15 seconds behind so did 53.55.
In 1989 Lemond did 24.5 in 26.57 which was 54.54 but the next rider was 33 behind which is 53.4

Martin did 54.271km/h and Froome 12 seconds behind so 53.97 into the wind.

Zabriskie did Zabriskie did 54.676 km/h in 2005. Armstrong 2 seconds back.

So while there might be a few tts I missed where the first placed rider fit in somewhere between Indurain and Lemond, based on those above the records stand at

1 Boradman - 7k tt - 55.26
2 Zabriskie 19k tt - 54.68
3 Armstrong 19k tt - 54.59
4 Lemond - 24k tt -54.54
5 Tony Martin- 33k tt- 54.27
6 Chris Froome 33k tt - 53.97 (into wind )
7 Indurain 7k tt - 53.55
8 Thierry Marie 24k tt- 53.4

So on a significantly longer course Martin and Froome last year put up all time great tt speeds. The same year Orica put up the fastest ttt in history. This year they are on a course twice the size of a prologue smashing the great prologue times. I see pattern.

 

[The Hitch]

Re: Re:

..........pan flat...........like a track without as many bends

Mark L

roads are flatter now?

New BRailsford marginal gain. They send special tractor like vehicles on the road before the stage to flatten the road.

You may wonder how that would help Sky in particular since all riders would benefit from this marginal gain. But then again, that's true with every innovation Brailsfraud claims to have invented.

 

[SeriousSam]

Flatter roads, rouder wheel, the air is more slippery these days due to global warming or reduced ozone layers or something. Lots of reasons.

 

[70kmph]

Red flag in Utrecht

 

[burning]

Cancellara rode 54.34 km/h on London and today he was faster. I think these speeds can not be explained by doping alone.

 

[Eagle]

Nice start to the race, will we see a new record on Huy?

 

[Benotti69]

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Cancellara rode 54.34 km/h on London and today he was faster. I think these speeds can not be explained by doping alone.

Dude those Dutch roads are lined with all kinds of drugs.............................

 

[ebandit]

troll

..........pan flat...........like a track without as many bends

Mark L

roads are flatter now?

and you accuse me of trolling? as you know the course was flat with

only 2m gain in height over 13.8km.................+ it appears dennis

rode in optimal conditions.....very hot without increased wind of later riders

Mark L

 

[the sceptic]

Re: troll

..........pan flat...........like a track without as many bends

Mark L

roads are flatter now?

and you accuse me of trolling? as you know the course was flat with

only 2m gain in height over 13.8km.................+ it appears dennis

rode in optimal conditions.....very hot without increased wind of later riders

Mark L

No one has rode a flat TT course before?

 

[burning]

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Cancellara rode 54.34 km/h on London and today he was faster. I think these speeds can not be explained by doping alone.

Dude those Dutch roads are lined with all kinds of drugs.............................

Well, I don't say that they are not doping or we are in a new cleans era but do you think that this Cancellara is in a better shape compared to 2007 where he dropped whole peloton inside final km? Imo, this result is way too anomalous to explain with only doping. I don't think that we are witnessed 4 of the 5 strongest rides of all time.

 

[doperhopper]

Would be happy if it's only Fck'shima. With four big guns pantastonging each other we can even get to the level of Tour de Chernobyl. Some teams are already quite radioactive and toxic...

 

[Random Direction]

thinking about the nuclear tour to be, I can't stop thinking about guys on coke, or this song, or both. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

 

[The Hegelian]

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What happens if you watch without protection?

Acute Radioation Syndrome. The severity of the symptoms depends on just how much mutant radiation one is exposed to. This is usually measured in Gray, a unit of ionized radiation, but we can convert things to the more interpretable unit AST (Alpe ascent time) and get the following table of symptoms (Ashenden et al 2013):

>40 min. Mild nausea and boredom. Moderate chance of delusion that the riders are cleans
39-40min: Rising blood pressure due to excitement. They're going pretty quick in the bio passport era.
38-39min: Risk of asphyxiation due to excessive laughing. They are going comically quick.
<38: Full ***. Nervous breakdown. High chance of permanent disillusionment with cycling

Indeed. I watched 17 minutes of the Giro without my suit on, and I still ain't right.

With the suit on though, a finer spectacle cannot be had.

 

[the sceptic]

ammattipyöräily ‏@ammattipyoraily 1m1 minute ago

#TDF2015, Stage 3. MUR DE HUY. Rodriguez climbed last 1.00 km in 2:50. 4 sec faster than Valverde in this year's Fleche Wallonne.

not to mention Froome, the new hill sprint specialist. What a joke

 

[AICA ribonucleotide]

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ammattipyöräily ‏@ammattipyoraily 1m1 minute ago

#TDF2015, Stage 3. MUR DE HUY. Rodriguez climbed last 1.00 km in 2:50. 4 sec faster than Valverde in this year's Fleche Wallonne.

not to mention Froome, the new hill sprint specialist. What a joke

The Fleche Wallonne is a stage race not a time trial. Valverde is not going to go balls out from the start. He just wants to have his wheel in front of the next rided.
Also the Fleche is a longer and much harder course going over the Mur twice and no neutralisations.

 

[Inquitus]

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ammattipyöräily ‏@ammattipyoraily 1m1 minute ago

#TDF2015, Stage 3. MUR DE HUY. Rodriguez climbed last 1.00 km in 2:50. 4 sec faster than Valverde in this year's Fleche Wallonne.

not to mention Froome, the new hill sprint specialist. What a joke

The Fleche Wallonne is a stage race not a time trial. Valverde is not going to go balls out from the start. He just wants to have his wheel in front of the next rided.
Also the Fleche is a longer and much harder course going over the Mur twice and no neutralisations.

Yep no doubt todays stage was much easier than the Fleche Wallonne and riders arrived at the bottom much fresher.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

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ammattipyöräily ‏@ammattipyoraily 1m1 minute ago

#TDF2015, Stage 3. MUR DE HUY. Rodriguez climbed last 1.00 km in 2:50. 4 sec faster than Valverde in this year's Fleche Wallonne.

not to mention Froome, the new hill sprint specialist. What a joke

The Fleche Wallonne is a stage race not a time trial. Valverde is not going to go balls out from the start. He just wants to have his wheel in front of the next rided.
Also the Fleche is a longer and much harder course going over the Mur twice and no neutralisations.

I think you meant to say "road race". I would agree that FW is harder than today's stage, but at the same time, this is the 3rd straight day of racing.

It doesn't matter. It's not as though anyone who follows cycling seriously thinks any of these guys are clean.

 

[The Hitch]

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ammattipyöräily ‏@ammattipyoraily 1m1 minute ago

#TDF2015, Stage 3. MUR DE HUY. Rodriguez climbed last 1.00 km in 2:50. 4 sec faster than Valverde in this year's Fleche Wallonne.

not to mention Froome, the new hill sprint specialist. What a joke

The Fleche Wallonne is a stage race not a time trial. Valverde is not going to go balls out from the start. He just wants to have his wheel in front of the next rided.
Also the Fleche is a longer and much harder course going over the Mur twice and no neutralisations.

Yep no doubt todays stage was much easier than the Fleche Wallonne and riders arrived at the bottom much fresher.

And the Fleche Wallone is a 1 day race so they don't have 2 days racing in their legs. Yesterday was quite hard. + Murito crashed numerous time so should be weaker.

 

[nayr497]

That was an interesting day of racing...

 

[Brullnux]

...and the Fukushima tour continues. I am dreading Pierre Sant Martin.