2015 Tour de France Stage 11: Pau › Cauterets

[Taxus4a]

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And if I remember rightly that stage started immediately with a massive climb that killed sky but this one doesnt

Breakaway ftw for sure

I say Rolland

it is not the same istuation, for sure, and sure SKY learned the lesson and Today keep some riders just in case, but porte could crack in Tourmalet and Valverde no. Both of them are very good with hot, anyway, the same as Froome and Quintana, but Valverde with hot weather become a top rider for any race.

The stage is not the same but as well has some climbs and doesnt finish in a climb, so... Aspin is far from the begining, but a new stage could star there... lot of people would want to be on the break, and those people at about 10 minutes in GC are dangerous.

 

[carton]

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I won't be watching this, or any other stage where froome is likely to figure. I might watch the hillier stages and the final one.

Te vas Zapata?

I'll let myself out.

 

[Taxus4a]

Indurain becomed famous for attack in the descent of Tourmalet in a stage that finisedh in Cauterets.

Of course some people will try something tomorrow, especially in the descent, but SKY has no motive to become crazy.

 

[difdauf]

All the no-sky riders out of the time limit tomorrow ?

 

[Taxus4a]

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All the no-sky riders out of the time limit tomorrow ?

SKy did today similar to Movistar.

SKY cracked l2 years ago in this stage afeter a similar day than today...

So...is there a base to think tomorrow SKy will be superdominant?

Are this kind of post positive?

When I talk this way some people say I am trolling, but if i see this kind of post I will act the same. Maybe is depend what you talk, I dont know, but that is not serious.

 

[Taxus4a]

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I won't be watching this, or any other stage where froome is likely to figure. I might watch the hillier stages and the final one.

Bye,

Dont forget to close the door, please.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Rolland is obviously in strong form but if he has thoughts of the KOTM them he would be much better to try for the breakaway tomorrow.

it was clear first week would have some victims, and Roland was one of them.

It is a pity, becouse he showed today he was very strong, the second pure climber of the stage.
He has at least days to shine.

 

[pastronef]

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Who cares?

RIP TdF2015.

you don't

many other care.
you know, all these riders are training since december just to have a spot on the team for the Tour.

the level of negativity is reaching new levels in this internet era

 

[aarononymous]

Just hoping Quintana can stay with Froome tomorrow and possibly take some time from him the next day, if only seconds. At what gap does a Quintana stage victory over Froome not really count?

 

[Poursuivant]

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I won't be watching this, or any other stage where froome is likely to figure. I might watch the hillier stages and the final one.

Te vas Zapata?

I'll let myself out.

I can only assume he said the same this time last year, because Froomes numbers are the same as Nibalis, I would be staggered to hear someone on this forum has a bias against Froome, it seems a crazy thing to say

 

[Taxus4a]

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Who cares?

RIP TdF2015.

you don't

many other care.
you know, all these riders are training since december just to have a spot on the team for the Tour.

the level of negativity is reaching new levels in this internet era

I am sure lot of people is enjoying and I am sure in 2050 lot of people will watch again this videos and will enjoy more, today there are lot of prejudgments. I understand, but it is a pity.

 

[hfer07]

I would love to see "G" smashing this stage with no remorse whatsoever, so he can rub it into Valverde's face afterwards & thus have the whole CN Clinic Forums crashed for weeks

 

[blaxland]

hope its time for the yates boys to attack into breakaway and win a stage?otherwise Froome to smash the favourites at the end of stage.lol

 

[myrideissteelerthanyours]

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All the no-sky riders out of the time limit tomorrow ?

SKy did today similar to Movistar.

SKY cracked l2 years ago in this stage afeter a similar day than today...

So...is there a base to think tomorrow SKy will be superdominant?

Are this kind of post positive?

When I talk this way some people say I am trolling, but if i see this kind of post I will act the same. Maybe is depend what you talk, I dont know, but that is not serious.

Indeed Froome has shown in the past he cant maintain these performances consistently for all three weeks of the tour. And Porte is Porte... The field could isolate Froome potentially but I doubt it. Maybe Gesink has the proper attitude to pull it off (nothing to lose and everything to win). More likely is another obscure rules violation that costs Froome Dawg the 3 minutes advantage he has over Quintana.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

If Nibali gets to the top of the Tourmalet in the lead group he has to try and get away on the descent. Its odds of working are slim even if he gets a gap but what does he have to lose. A top ten means nothing to a rider like him so he might as well try to do better.

 

[Sasquatch]

I think Rolland.

 

[veganrob]

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Will the Tourmalet descent be significant for the likes of Nibali and Contador and other accomplished descenders over King Bambi legs?

Doubt it. Not unless they get a gap over him and all other Sky riders before the summit. Contador won't drop him on the descent. Nibali possibly, but not by much

Nibali if he's there will definitely get sizable gap and Contador won't be far off....Contador is a fantastic descender too

Riiight. Contador is such an awesome descender that in 2014, on the descent of the Col du Platzerwasel, he crashed out of the Tour.

Riigghhtt. Not. AC was riding no hands at 60kph getting food when he hit a crack. At least know what you are talking about.

 

[The Barb]

I think Rolland.

I can't believe you're abandoning your boy Uran.

 

[Sasquatch]

I think Rolland.

I can't believe you're abandoning your boy Uran.

I haven't abandoned him. I just think the third week is where he'll light up the breaks

 

[The Hitch]

Breakaway stage. I don't expect froome to attack, just follow opponents. Contador and Nibali not yet in form to do it don't think. So maybe Quintana. What I'd like to see is sky actively pursue the second podium spot and send Thomas up the road or even Porte in a break. That's what I would do on pcm if I was 4 mins up with the strongest guy in the race.

 

[malakassis]

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by today the other GC guys know they cant win by themselves. its waiting for froome to fade and then gain time. you cant attak the strongest, because you get hit. the good news: in 2013 they didnt know about frooms weaker 3rd week and didnt dare to attack (stage 19). now the do.

By then Froome will be 7+ minutes ahead and even then only Quintana really got time on him (and purito kind of)

i mean yeah nibali and AC might try something, sky doesnt need to follow imediatly as they are out of GC and out of gas. if sky follows then its ok for movistar to just hang in.
but for movistar/BMC it is useless to ride actively and waste energies NOW when froome/sky are clearly the strongest. movistar is already 3rd in teamGC. and the podium there plus nairo solid on podium already makes money. i wouldnt burn valverde in the pyrenees. keep him and go full in the alps. but ok, im a conservative guy

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Will the Tourmalet descent be significant for the likes of Nibali and Contador and other accomplished descenders over King Bambi legs?

Doubt it. Not unless they get a gap over him and all other Sky riders before the summit. Contador won't drop him on the descent. Nibali possibly, but not by much

Nibali if he's there will definitely get sizable gap and Contador won't be far off....Contador is a fantastic descender too

Riiight. Contador is such an awesome descender that in 2014, on the descent of the Col du Platzerwasel, he crashed out of the Tour.

One crash does not a bad descender make. Contador is superb going downhill for a comparatively light rider.

He did crash in the 2013 Tour on a descend as well almost taking Froome with him. Do you have any recollection of Froome crashing on a descend?

 

[LaFlorecita]

No but Froome did whine about descents and how you shouldn't be allowed to attack on them and scolded AC like he was a little child "almost went over your head, a little more care next time Alberto?" He tried to push for neutralization of the Alpe (?) descent. And also in his book Mein Climb he was whining about Contador attacking him ("boooohooohooo how dare he attack me"). He's very much like Andy when it comes to descending

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I won't be watching this, or any other stage where froome is likely to figure. I might watch the hillier stages and the final one.

Me neither Watching Alberto struggle makes me physically ill but it is 10x worse when it's Froome putting minutes on him. I'd rather not vomit all over my TV.

 

[Kwibus]

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Will the Tourmalet descent be significant for the likes of Nibali and Contador and other accomplished descenders over King Bambi legs?

Doubt it. Not unless they get a gap over him and all other Sky riders before the summit. Contador won't drop him on the descent. Nibali possibly, but not by much

Nibali if he's there will definitely get sizable gap and Contador won't be far off....Contador is a fantastic descender too

Riiight. Contador is such an awesome descender that in 2014, on the descent of the Col du Platzerwasel, he crashed out of the Tour.

I just hope your trolling. Crashing because you are getting some food from your pockets while hitting a bump on the road has nothing to do with descending. It's because he simply f*cked up.