2015 Tour de Suisse Stage 4 - 193km

[pedromiguelmartins]

Peter went too soon. orica with lots of riders... Sagan alone. Always.

 

[Irondan]

Who went down at 500 meters?

 

[BigMac]

Matthews is Gerrans' legacy.

 

[Pharazon]

Re:

Who went down at 500 meters?

didn't see who it was, but it certainly held up Thomas..

 

[Netserk]

There was no need for Sagan to launch so early. Trentin and GVA were still ahead of him.

 

[Bushman]

Rojas was the one who crashed.

Sagan started his sprint too early, especially considering it was a bit uphill.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Stage

GC

 

[ILovecycling]

Re:

Brienne of Tarth working at the front.

Hopefully he will be picked for Tour team.

Sagz messed it up, I dont know wtf is wrong with him

 

[Cance > TheRest]

How come Dumoulin leads by 1sec?

 

[Irondan]

Those are some portly podium girls...

 

[johnymax]

Nice win for Matthews. The 3km rule doesn't apply for the GC?

 

[Bushman]

Re:

There was no need for Sagan to launch so early. Trentin and GVA were still ahead of him.

I agree, he could have stayed in GVA's wheel for a bit longer. Maybe he was afraid that they would be overtaken and he would lose too much speed, I don't know.

 

[Eagle]

Re:

How come Dumoulin leads by 1sec?

He won an intermediate sprint, got bonus seconds there

 

[Bushman]

Re: Re:

Brienne of Tarth working at the front.

Hopefully he will be picked for Tour team.

Sagz messed it up, I dont know wtf is wrong with him

Well, he was all alone in the last 3 k, not too easy.

 

[Pharazon]

Re:

Nice win for Matthews. The 3km rule doesn't apply for the GC?

i don't see why not.. it was a sprint finish, all be it from a reducded group.. i'd imagine thomas will get his time back

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re: Re:

How come Dumoulin leads by 1sec?

He won an intermediate sprint, got bonus seconds there

I know, but didn't Sagan take 2nd on another intermediate sprint? That should give him +2sec. Combined with the +6sec he got from 2nd on the stage, that makes it +5sec won today. He was +5sec behind before today's stage

 

[snccdcno]

Re: Re:

How come Dumoulin leads by 1sec?

He won an intermediate sprint, got bonus seconds there

I know, but didn't Sagan take 2nd on another intermediate sprint? That should give him +2sec. Combined with the +6sec he got from 2nd on the stage, that makes it +5sec won today. He was +5sec behind before today's stage

He got one at the final intermediate as well, on screen it said Barguil but it was Dumolin.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re: Re:

How come Dumoulin leads by 1sec?

He won an intermediate sprint, got bonus seconds there

I know, but didn't Sagan take 2nd on another intermediate sprint? That should give him +2sec. Combined with the +6sec he got from 2nd on the stage, that makes it +5sec won today. He was +5sec behind before today's stage

He got one at the final intermediate as well, on screen it said Barguil but it was Dumolin.

That explains it. thank you

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Re: Re:

There was no need for Sagan to launch so early. Trentin and GVA were still ahead of him.

I agree, he could have stayed in GVA's wheel for a bit longer. Maybe he was afraid that they would be overtaken and he would lose too much speed, I don't know.

Sagan can say it was just a tactical error that got him beat. In reality though Matthews won with so much to spare that it really didn''t make much difference

 

[Bushman]

Re: Re:

There was no need for Sagan to launch so early. Trentin and GVA were still ahead of him.

I agree, he could have stayed in GVA's wheel for a bit longer. Maybe he was afraid that they would be overtaken and he would lose too much speed, I don't know.

Sagan can say it was just a tactical error that got him beat. In reality though Matthews won with so much to spare that it really didn''t make much difference

Of course you can't know if Sagan would have won or would have got beaten anyway if he rode smarter in the sprint, but the only reason Matthews won so comfortably is that Sagan sprinted so early.

 

[del1962]

So Majka, Warbasse, Rojas and Schleck went down?

 

[johnymax]

I think Rojas went down. Those you mentioned and many others lost seconds because of the crash but all 40 raiders or so were given the same time I see. But I'm not 100% sure.

 

[del1962]

I was looking at the results and with Rojas they where delayed most (o seconds) but after Impey and Ten Dam at 50 seconds

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Good job by Matthews.
He will sooon exchange one the Ardennes podiums to a top spot imo.

 

[max_powers]

Re: Re:

There was no need for Sagan to launch so early. Trentin and GVA were still ahead of him.

I agree, he could have stayed in GVA's wheel for a bit longer. Maybe he was afraid that they would be overtaken and he would lose too much speed, I don't know.

yes Sagan needs to keep his mass moving on that hill, so when in doubt, lead it out, good to salvage 2nd