2015 Vuelta stage 13: Calatayud > Tarazona 178km

[Kwibus]

What happened to Nairo? His performance on Wednesday also was strange when he first seemed to be the fifth best rider and suddenly completely exploded.
However once again this vuelta proofs that many riders underestimates back to back gt's

He's sick. Fever.

Which was quite often in the news/on this forum tbh

Sickness doesnt explain why he first tried to hold majka's and nieve's wheel before he exploded. It can be the reason but in that case fever has to be combined with stupidity

THink he just went a bit too deep there, also in general see this video from just after the finish:
https://www.facebook.com/CyclingTips/videos/1025111264195892/

Sorry, but this one was after the Mont Ventoux stage in 2013 Tour de France.

Ok who is right now? Conflicting information is annoying!

 

[Flamin]

Sergio Henao y Nicolas Roche (Team Sky), Mikael Cherel y Rinaldo Nocentini (Ag2r-La Mondiale), Alessandro de Marchi (BMC), David Arroyo (Caja Rural-Seguros RGA), Yohan Bagot y Julien Simon (Cofidis), Niki Terpstra y Gianluca Brambilla (Etixx-Quick Step), Kenny Elissonde y Mickael Delage (FDJ), Sylvain Chavanel y Jerome Coppel (IAM Cycling), Rubén Plaza, Valerio Conti y Nelson Oliveira (Lampre-Merida), Maxime Monfort (Lotto-Soudal), José Joaquín Rojas (Movistar), Stephen Cummings (MTN-Qhubeka), Cameron Meyer (Orica-GreenEdge), Yukiya Arashiro y Romain Sicard (Europcar) y Pawel Poljanski (Tinkoff-Saxo).

+2'54" peloton.

 

[Kwibus]

I agree people underestimate back to back gt's (though I feel Froome can do the Tou/Vuelta double) but how has this Vuelta proved that?

Nairo was badly sick with fever since Tuesday
Valverde has been decent/average
Froome fractured his foot
Purito has been very good

So in what way has this Vuelta proved anything?

I think both Nairo and Froome looked to be struggling, perhaps they would have got stronger as the race continued perhaps not, Valverde is below normal and Purito never rode the Tdf for gc. Is it possible to compete even win both, yes, but you'll be at a great disadvantage to anyone doing Giro/Vuelta.

Still Giro vuelta isnt easy as well. Normally the rider in peak form at the Giro isn't able to reach that same peak again, but it's ofcourse a lot better then Tour/Vuelta.

I remember Nibali in 2013 who was awesome at the Giro and really good at the Vuelta, but not the same level of the Giro.

 

[Sasquatch]

Sicard and Brambilla are killing this break.

 

[Flamin]

Sicard showing balls again by going in the break.

 

[Ruby United]

What happened to Nairo? His performance on Wednesday also was strange when he first seemed to be the fifth best rider and suddenly completely exploded.
However once again this vuelta proofs that many riders underestimates back to back gt's
edit: where do you get this information from? I thought the broadcasting starts at 16:00

I agree people underestimate back to back gt's (though I feel Froome can do the Tou/Vuelta double) but how has this Vuelta proved that?

Nairo was badly sick with fever since Tuesday
Valverde has been decent/average
Froome fractured his foot
Purito has been very good

So in what way has this Vuelta proved anything?

Aru is the strongest climber in the race and did not do the Tour; all the other riders who did the Tour are nott as good as him (and in my personal opinon all the big names who did the Tour are better climbers than Aru).

Like who?????

Most people would agree that generally Aru is a better climber than Purito and Piti and, as mentioned, all the other top Tour climbers have been ruled out

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Nice power break.
Quite a few I like in there.
Go Terpstra.

 

[Sasquatch]

Caja have overlooked Plaza in the battle for the KOM. This is going to be interesting. At least we're going to have a fight for it rather than a runaway leader. Arroyo isn't taking any points on the climbs which is interesting. Plaza will be moving up to 30 points today, 25 behind.

As for the stage victory, my wallet is wanting Sicard or Monfort to win.

 

[The Principal Sheep]

Still Giro vuelta isnt easy as well. Normally the rider in peak form at the Giro isn't able to reach that same peak again, but it's ofcourse a lot better then Tour/Vuelta.

I remember Nibali in 2013 who was awesome at the Giro and really good at the Vuelta, but not the same level of the Giro.

Agreed, which is why I think only a select few could ever even imagine doing Giro/Vuelta double, Tour/Vuelta I think requires help from the gods and a weak field somewhere to be possible.

Contador was never going to be able to do Giro/Tour unless they goaded Froome & others into doing likewise but I think if he'd come here instead he would be challenging for his second of the year.

 

[Sasquatch]

What happened to Nairo? His performance on Wednesday also was strange when he first seemed to be the fifth best rider and suddenly completely exploded.
However once again this vuelta proofs that many riders underestimates back to back gt's
edit: where do you get this information from? I thought the broadcasting starts at 16:00

I agree people underestimate back to back gt's (though I feel Froome can do the Tou/Vuelta double) but how has this Vuelta proved that?

Nairo was badly sick with fever since Tuesday
Valverde has been decent/average
Froome fractured his foot
Purito has been very good

So in what way has this Vuelta proved anything?

Aru is the strongest climber in the race and did not do the Tour; all the other riders who did the Tour are nott as good as him (and in my personal opinon all the big names who did the Tour are better climbers than Aru).

Like who?????

Most people would agree that generally Aru is a better climber than Purito and Piti and, as mentioned, all the other top Tour climbers have been ruled out

Yep. Easily.

 

[Sasquatch]

Astana are keeping this in check around the 2 and a half minute mark. Someone from the break should still win this stage though.

 

[classicomano]

Quintana looks like hell.

 

[Taxus4a]

That break is very dangerous with Bambrilla there.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Has Quintana abandoned?

 

[Singer01]

Still Giro vuelta isnt easy as well. Normally the rider in peak form at the Giro isn't able to reach that same peak again, but it's ofcourse a lot better then Tour/Vuelta.

I remember Nibali in 2013 who was awesome at the Giro and really good at the Vuelta, but not the same level of the Giro.

Agreed, which is why I think only a select few could ever even imagine doing Giro/Vuelta double, Tour/Vuelta I think requires help from the gods and a weak field somewhere to be possible.

Contador was never going to be able to do Giro/Tour unless they goaded Froome & others into doing likewise but I think if he'd come here instead he would be challenging for his second of the year.

challenging? i think he would have walked it. he already knows how to do it and there is no way aru beats him on this route. he could just sit in his wheel for 2 1/2 weeks and destroy him in the TT.

 

[Kwibus]

Still Giro vuelta isnt easy as well. Normally the rider in peak form at the Giro isn't able to reach that same peak again, but it's ofcourse a lot better then Tour/Vuelta.

I remember Nibali in 2013 who was awesome at the Giro and really good at the Vuelta, but not the same level of the Giro.

Agreed, which is why I think only a select few could ever even imagine doing Giro/Vuelta double, Tour/Vuelta I think requires help from the gods and a weak field somewhere to be possible.

Contador was never going to be able to do Giro/Tour unless they goaded Froome & others into doing likewise but I think if he'd come here instead he would be challenging for his second of the year.

challenging? i think he would have walked it. he already knows how to do it and there is no way aru beats him on this route. he could just sit in his wheel for 2 1/2 weeks and destroy him in the TT.

Yeah right. No point arguing here.
Your in dreamland.

 

[jens_attacks]

Re:

That break is very dangerous with Bambrilla there.

Yes they are really scared of him
A much as of juanmi mercado

 

[DFA123]

What happened to Nairo? His performance on Wednesday also was strange when he first seemed to be the fifth best rider and suddenly completely exploded.
However once again this vuelta proofs that many riders underestimates back to back gt's
edit: where do you get this information from? I thought the broadcasting starts at 16:00

I agree people underestimate back to back gt's (though I feel Froome can do the Tou/Vuelta double) but how has this Vuelta proved that?

Nairo was badly sick with fever since Tuesday
Valverde has been decent/average
Froome fractured his foot
Purito has been very good

So in what way has this Vuelta proved anything?

Aru is the strongest climber in the race and did not do the Tour; all the other riders who did the Tour are nott as good as him (and in my personal opinon all the big names who did the Tour are better climbers than Aru).

Like who?????

Most people would agree that generally Aru is a better climber than Purito and Piti and, as mentioned, all the other top Tour climbers have been ruled out

Yep. Easily.

Not sure he is easily better. Possibly he is better now, but on all the big finishes in the Vuelta last year (the only other time they've seriously gone head to head), Valverde and Purito beat him on all the really tough finishing climbs: Lagos de Covadonga, Ancares and La Farrapona.

And that was after both Piti and Purito had done the TdF.

 

[hrotha]

Re: Re:

That break is very dangerous with Bambrilla there.

Yes they are really scared of him
A much as of juanmi mercado

This is as good a time as any to post this.

 

[DFA123]

Re:

That break is very dangerous with Bambrilla there.

He has a teammate with him there as well. Unfortunately for him it's Terpstra.

 

[Escarabajo]

Any updates on Quintana?

Sorrry I am late here.

 

[Escarabajo]

Well, I now see Quintana at the front????

I thought he was at the back.

 

[LPP68!]

Re: Re:

That break is very dangerous with Bambrilla there.

He has a teammate with him there as well. Unfortunately for him it's Terpstra.

Terpstra already practiced a sprint yesterday, he is prepared

 

[Flamin]

What's up with these annoying blurry images.

 

[barmaher]

Put the beer down.