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Orbit501 said:
Any know who the Cofidis and AG2R riders were who went down please? And is the Cofidis rider ok as that looked nasty.
French commentary said Gougeard and Laporte - didn't really comment on the severity of the crash afterwards.
 
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I'm afraid the big GC guys will look at each tomorrow, Martin or ala will have the jersey tomorrow
 
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9 seconds, IMO is fare, specially after no seconds split the second stage.. Froome and SKY are wasting too much energy to avoid problems up there and his strengh is logical some times has reward.

Contador use to be good and carefull as well at the end, but not so strong
 
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DFA123 said:
Orbit501 said:
Any know who the Cofidis and AG2R riders were who went down please? And is the Cofidis rider ok as that looked nasty.
French commentary said Gougeard and Laporte - didn't really comment on the severity of the crash afterwards.
It wasn't Laporte, I saw him in the bunch.
 
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Miburo said:
I think any crash that happens in the last 3km, then the rule should directly apply. Then again i think the rule should always be applied, even if there's no crash.

QFT
 
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Alexandre B. said:
DFA123 said:
Orbit501 said:
Any know who the Cofidis and AG2R riders were who went down please? And is the Cofidis rider ok as that looked nasty.
French commentary said Gougeard and Laporte - didn't really comment on the severity of the crash afterwards.
It wasn't Laporte, I saw him in the bunch.
Fair enough. Was a really unfortunate crash for Bozic then; he just got completely boxed in and forced off the road.

Not sure it's a great idea to have a sweeping right hand bend with those kind of barriers right up to the edge of the road, just 2km from the finish of a sprint stage. They should have put some cones out or taped it off to give the riders a bit of breathing space between the edge of the road and the barriers.
 
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Praying Mantis said:
If you didn't know Alaphilippe can sprint, you haven't been paying attention...

Of course, I was suprised in his 2nd in Fleche and Lieje, becoue I consider him kinda sprinter... Today we see he is much more than an sprinter, but today stage it wanst not too flat at the end, and the last Km was little uphill... that way I saw EBH in a very good position and I bet for him, in a normal sprint he has nothing to do with Bouhanni.
 
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TheYouyou7 said:
Taxus4a said:
9 seconds, IMO is fare, specially after no seconds split the second stage.. Froome and SKY are wasting too much energy to avoid problems up there and his strengh is logical some times has reward.

Contador use to be good and carefull as well at the end, but not so strong


Just shut up. There was NO gaps in stage 2 and a crash today...
Taxus.. :eek: :eek:
 
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Taxus4a said:
Praying Mantis said:
If you didn't know Alaphilippe can sprint, you haven't been paying attention...

Of course, I was suprised in his 2nd in Fleche and Lieje, becoue I consider him kinda sprinter... Today we see he is much more than an sprinter, but today stage it wanst not too flat at the end, and the last Km was little uphill... that way I saw EBH in a very good position and I bet for him, in a normal sprint he has nothing to do with Bouhanni.
So, sprint stage today and we finally get to see Alaphilippe is much more than a sprinter?
 
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TheYouyou7 said:
Taxus4a said:
9 seconds, IMO is fare, specially after no seconds split the second stage.. Froome and SKY are wasting too much energy to avoid problems up there and his strengh is logical some times has reward.

Contador use to be good and carefull as well at the end, but not so strong


Just shut up. There was NO gaps in stage 2 and a crash today...
But that is the whole point of why Sky ride at the front; so that the chances are they are ahead of a crash. They spend a lot of energy at the end of every stage exactly as an insurance against this kind of thing. They're not trying to gap anyone using raw power. And today they have their reward for it - having almost cancelled out Contador's lead after the TT.

You have to wonder why other GC leaders don't do the same. It's not like it takes loads of extra effort for a GC rider to just follow the wheel of a couple of his biggest team mates in the closing stages.
 
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Miburo said:
One thing is for sure, that wasn't 9 sec xD.

I think any crash that happens in the last 3km, then the rule should directly apply. Then again i think the rule should always be applied, even if there's no crash.

I timed Contador at 9s back from EBH, and Froome 2s back from EBH. There was a gap between Froome and the rider in front, but not a full 1s gap between Froome and the rider in front. So yes, the gap was 9s, not that I think that's how gaps should be timed but it is what it is
 
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PremierAndrew said:
Miburo said:
One thing is for sure, that wasn't 9 sec xD.

I think any crash that happens in the last 3km, then the rule should directly apply. Then again i think the rule should always be applied, even if there's no crash.

I timed Contador at 9s back from EBH, and Froome 2s back from EBH. There was a gap between Froome and the rider in front, but not a full 1s gap between Froome and the rider in front. So yes, the gap was 9s, not that I think that's how gaps should be timed but it is what it is
What was the gap between Gallopin (first of Contador group) and EBH?
Gallopin again :eek:
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Miburo said:
Not too sure if the gaps will count because of the crash.
Pretty sure they will. Only two went down and no one was caught behind.

No one was at a standstill, but I can't see how it didn't affect the whole movement of a lot of the peloton behind - there was a man and bike on the road -they had to have slowed and swerved. People would have lost position etc. No idea if that included AC, but I don't see it had no effect on the bunch.

TBH though, I'm more worried about the Cofidis guy. That was a horrible crash
 
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Really hope Froome won't take the jersey tomorrow.
It might shift the whole Sky tactics on Saturday, towards conservative racing.
 
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TheYouyou7 said:
Taxus4a said:
9 seconds, IMO is fare, specially after no seconds split the second stage.. Froome and SKY are wasting too much energy to avoid problems up there and his strengh is logical some times has reward.

Contador use to be good and carefull as well at the end, but not so strong

Just shut up. There was NO gaps in stage 2 and a crash today...

No need to be so uncivil.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
PremierAndrew said:
Miburo said:
One thing is for sure, that wasn't 9 sec xD.

I think any crash that happens in the last 3km, then the rule should directly apply. Then again i think the rule should always be applied, even if there's no crash.

I timed Contador at 9s back from EBH, and Froome 2s back from EBH. There was a gap between Froome and the rider in front, but not a full 1s gap between Froome and the rider in front. So yes, the gap was 9s, not that I think that's how gaps should be timed but it is what it is
What was the gap between Gallopin (first of Contador group) and EBH?
Gallopin again :eek:

Between 8-9 sec to Gallopin
 
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I would too have annulled the gaps as I think the crash did make the peloton completely strung out and helped creating the gaps... But hey there is no major outrage to be had here I suppose.
 
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TheYouyou7 said:
Taxus4a said:
9 seconds, IMO is fare, specially after no seconds split the second stage.. Froome and SKY are wasting too much energy to avoid problems up there and his strengh is logical some times has reward.

Contador use to be good and carefull as well at the end, but not so strong


Just shut up. There was NO gaps in stage 2 and a crash today...

If you watch the footage there way. Ur just blind by ur support of Contador etc. The crash didn't involve Contador so it's not in the rules. So are they meant to change them?
 
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Today's splits were taken into account to spice up the coming weekend.
It wasn't very different situation to the previous days. Either decision can be justified.
Today was the perfect moment to lit the fuse.
 
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StryderHells said:
More Strides than Rides said:
Domoulin 6th, ahead of Degenkolb
Samuel Dumoulin is pretty quick so it's not much of a surprise is it?

I guess I have a hard time keeping track of what Domoulin is. Is he a Time-Trialist now? Or is he a GC man.

Okay, he is a sprinter now. Got it.
 
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More Strides than Rides said:
StryderHells said:
More Strides than Rides said:
Domoulin 6th, ahead of Degenkolb
Samuel Dumoulin is pretty quick so it's not much of a surprise is it?

I guess I have a hard time keeping track of what Domoulin is. Is he a Time-Trialist now? Or is he a GC man.

Okay, he is a sprinter now. Got it.
It's a different Dumoulin. Tom Dumoulin, Dutch, is a TTer and GC rider. Samuel Dumoulin, French and roughly 30cm shorter, is a sprinter/puncheur.
 
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More Strides than Rides said:
StryderHells said:
More Strides than Rides said:
Domoulin 6th, ahead of Degenkolb
Samuel Dumoulin is pretty quick so it's not much of a surprise is it?

I guess I have a hard time keeping track of what Domoulin is. Is he a Time-Trialist now? Or is he a GC man.

Okay, he is a sprinter now. Got it.
Different Dumoulin.