2016 Giro Field Discussion

[Valv.Piti]

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Jungels could do quite good in GC because of the TT...

lol

Do you have to be super judgmental in all your posts? I can't see why Jungels shouldn't be able to ride for a top-10 considering the relatively mediocre riders who have gotten a top-10 the last couple of years...

I was at Pra Martino in 2011 when they climbed it from the other side. Beautiful place, but I didn't get to climb it from the hard side they are ascending this year unfortunately. Overall, good changes IMO.

 

[Cannibal72]

Jungles is a great rider who may well have a decent team behind him. I think he's a good bet for a top 10, and he could get a stage win.

 

[Eshnar]

I frankly have no idea how good of a climber is Jungels. The TTs alone won't bring him into the top-10.

 

[togo95]

Thanks Eshnar, where did you get the news from? Is there anywhere I could see what the new routes are?

 

[Rollthedice]

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Only one month to go guys! Any news?
For example, I just saw that Gilbert has the Giro in his calendar on his official site. That's good news isn't it

Just in: Landa will make Nibali's Giro a nightmare.

Let's see what happens in Trentino later this month, then we'll talk.

 

[Eshnar]

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Thanks Eshnar, where did you get the news from? Is there anywhere I could see what the new routes are?

As I said, from forum.cicloweb.it and Mauro Facoltosi (he has another forum). The new profiles are only on local newspapers as of now.
We only have the one of Roccaraso, of the 4 mentioned

 

[Squire]

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I frankly have no idea how good of a climber is Jungels. The TTs alone won't bring him into the top-10.

He was an awesome climber on Alpe d'Huez last year. Other than that he hasn't shown much, but it seems his recovery abilities are decent.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Thanks Eshnar, where did you get the news from? Is there anywhere I could see what the new routes are?

As I said, from forum.cicloweb.it and Mauro Facoltosi (he has another forum). The new profiles are only on local newspapers as of now.
We only have the one of Roccaraso, of the 4 mentioned

Thanks! Is there a place where all Giro climbs of 2016 are gathered?

Rollthedice: Whether Nibali-fan, Landa-fan or fan of no one, we can only hope Landa at least try to make it a nightmare for Nibs! This race has the ingredients to be great.

 

[Eshnar]

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Thanks! Is there a place where all Giro climbs of 2016 are gathered?

Not yet... The Garibaldi and my stage-by-stage analysis are usually published on late April

 

[May0maniac]

Meanwhile, we already know many of the route changes RCS always do during winter (from Mauro Facoltosi and the Cicloweb forum).

I'll start with the bad news:
- In the stage to Roccaraso, the first small climb has been dropped.
- In the stage to Arezzo, same thing, first climb dropped (not the sterrato one, the easy one that was coming before it). Another very easy climb replaces it.

Good news:
- The stage to Asolo has been lengthened to almost 230 kms, including another small climb, as well as some tricky terrain, in the finale.
- The stage to Pinerolo is officially awesome, as they will include the wall of Via Principi d'Acaja (5-600m at well over 10% average, cobbled) twice, one before Pramartino and one before the finish, at approx. 2 kms to go. You can find it on Street View.

Irrelevant changes in a few other stages.

Via Principi d'Acaja could be interesting:

Any news about Scarponi? He broke his collarbone in Tirreno-Adriatico, but he should be back on his bike before the start of the Giro, right?

 

[Rollthedice]

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Thanks Eshnar, where did you get the news from? Is there anywhere I could see what the new routes are?

As I said, from forum.cicloweb.it and Mauro Facoltosi (he has another forum). The new profiles are only on local newspapers as of now.
We only have the one of Roccaraso, of the 4 mentioned

Thanks! Is there a place where all Giro climbs of 2016 are gathered?

Rollthedice: Whether Nibali-fan, Landa-fan or fan of no one, we can only hope Landa at least try to make it a nightmare for Nibs! This race has the ingredients to be great.

Totally agree, can't wait!

 

[Eshnar]

be nice, guys...

 

[Miburo]

I hope Landa destroys this giro

 

[Gigs_98]

I don't really care about the change in the Roccaraso stage, because the climb probably wouldnt have changed a lot anyway. The change in the Arezzo stage however is really lame, but is there maybe a chance they changed the complete stage and the new first climb comes directly before the sterrato climb? Because in the original route, there was a useless loop before the final climb.

The good news however is really nice. Especially the cobbled ascent in the Pinerolo stage should be great.
Seriously, if Landa arrives in good shape this could be such an extremely epic race. It clearly has the potential to be better than last year.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I don't really care about the change in the Roccaraso stage, because the climb probably wouldnt have changed a lot anyway. The change in the Arezzo stage however is really lame, but is there maybe a chance they changed the complete stage and the new first climb comes directly before the sterrato climb? Because in the original route, there was a useless loop before the final climb.

The good news however is really nice. Especially the cobbled ascent in the Pinerolo stage should be great.
Seriously, if Landa arrives in good shape this could be such an extremely epic race. It clearly has the potential to be better than last year.

Agreed.

 

[Billie]

Astana Pro Team
31 NIBALI, Vincenzo
32 AGNOLI, Valerio
33 CAPECCHI, Eros
34 FUGLSANG, Jakob
35 GRIVKO, Andrei
36 KOZHATAYEV, Bakhtiyar
37 SCARPONI, Michele
38 SMUKULIS, Gatis

During Tirreno it was said that the Astana rider who where there would also do il Giro. Malacarne will be the 9th rider. If Vanotti gets healthy before the start he'll most likely replace Smukulis.

 

[Eshnar]

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Astana Pro Team
31 NIBALI, Vincenzo
32 AGNOLI, Valerio
33 CAPECCHI, Eros
34 FUGLSANG, Jakob
35 GRIVKO, Andrei
36 KOZHATAYEV, Bakhtiyar
37 SCARPONI, Michele
38 SMUKULIS, Gatis

During Tirreno it was said that the Astana rider who where there would also do il Giro. Malacarne will be the 9th rider. If Vanotti gets healthy before the start he'll most likely replace Smukulis.

Fair enough. I'll add it to the OP

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Thanks! Is there a place where all Giro climbs of 2016 are gathered?

Not yet... The Garibaldi and my stage-by-stage analysis are usually published on late April

Looking forward to that one.

 

[Põhja Konn]

Kangert has already confirmed in Estonian media that he will be in both, Giro and the Tour, like last year

 

[Max Rockatansky]

- The stage to Pinerolo is officially awesome, as they will include the wall of Via Principi d'Acaja (5-600m at well over 10% average, cobbled) twice, one before Pramartino and one before the finish, at approx. 2 kms to go. You can find it on Street View.

Ouch.

 

[Eshnar]

Ouch.

where did you find the profiles? Thanks!

 

[SafeBet]

Looks promising. That could be a very fun stage.

 

[togo95]

Ouch.

where did you find the profiles? Thanks!

They put them up on the official site today.

 

[Eshnar]

Ouch.

where did you find the profiles? Thanks!

They put them up on the official site today.

I see. It seems however that they only put the details of the last week stages.

EDIT: And they forgot to put the profile of Pramartino...

 

[togo95]

Yeah, there are a few mistakes and many things are missing. Probably still WIP.