2016 Giro Field Discussion

[May0maniac]

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To Mayomaniac: Ok. Valverde podium, I win. Out of podium, you win.

Ok.

 

[Rollthedice]

Zakafroome will be fun to watch but seriously, even with help from Rusvelo it's hard to see him podium. Valverde on the other hand, I think he'll be ready. Lots of opportunities for boni seconds, his quality as an allrounder, experience and a strong team make him number one threat to Nibali.

 

[durtyfat7]

What about Hesjedal? I really think he can get a podium in this Giro if he doesn't get bad luck in the first week.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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What about Hesjedal? I really think he can get a podium in this Giro if he doesn't get bad luck in the first week.

Highly unlikely, the competition this year is better on paper, he has gotten one year older and I think the route was better for him last year

 

[SafeBet]

Many stages in the first couple of weeks are perfect for Valverde. He's also a very reliable TTer, could even win the MTT. Add that some mountain stages in the third week could be cancelled due to bad weather. He has a very good shot at the podium.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Many stages in the first couple of weeks are perfect for Valverde. He's also a very reliable TTer, could even win the MTT. Add that some mountain stages in the third week could be cancelled due to bad weather. He has a very good shot at the podium.

Honestly he could even win the long ITT if Dumoulin has a bad day, has abandoned or whatever, even tho there also are other better than him normally! Especially Nibali on this one.

 

[May0maniac]

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Many stages in the first couple of weeks are perfect for Valverde. He's also a very reliable TTer, could even win the MTT. Add that some mountain stages in the third week could be cancelled due to bad weather. He has a very good shot at the podium.

Honestly he could even win the long ITT if Dumoulin has a bad day, has abandoned or whatever, even tho there also are other better than him normally! Especially Nibali on this one.

I don't think that he'll win it, but the long ITT is great for him (it's also a great ITT for Nibali).
He could win a few stages, there are more than enough opportunities for him.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Many stages in the first couple of weeks are perfect for Valverde. He's also a very reliable TTer, could even win the MTT. Add that some mountain stages in the third week could be cancelled due to bad weather. He has a very good shot at the podium.

Honestly he could even win the long ITT if Dumoulin has a bad day, has abandoned or whatever, even tho there also are other better than him normally! Especially Nibali on this one.

I don't think that he'll win it, but the long ITT is great for him (it's also a great ITT for Nibali).
He could win a few stages, there are more than enough opportunities for him.

I dont either, but Valverde does very well in those TT's

 

[Eshnar]

https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/720888398873907201\

Movistar short list for the Giro. There's no Dayer and Rojas. OP updated.

 

[SafeBet]

Rojas is mentioned in the shortlist

 

[Eshnar]

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Rojas is mentioned in the shortlist

yes I must've allucinated.

 

[Valv.Piti]

https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/720888398873907201\

Movistar short list for the Giro. There's no Dayer and Rojas. OP updated.

Ugh, I had hoped to see Dayer. He will hopefully get a chance in the Vuelta then.

I say one of Sutterlein or Dowsett out since you dont have a TTT, along with Pedrero.

 

[ice&fire]

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Rojas is mentioned in the shortlist

yes I must've allucinated.

Ventoso has been a regular presence in Movistar lineups for the Giro. Rojas is probably taking his place, or maybe just because he has a good rapport with Valverde.

 

[GP Blanco]

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Rojas is mentioned in the shortlist

yes I must've allucinated.

Ventoso has been a regular presence in Movistar lineups for the Giro. Rojas is probably taking his place, or maybe just because he has a good rapport with Valverde.

Isn't Ventoso riding with Quintana mostly?

 

[Escarabajo]

No place for Betancur in the Movistar team for the Giro.

 

[pastronef]

Konig not on Trentino official star list.
he´s in Czech Rep training, not even in Monaco nor Teide.

I think the Giro is gone. maybe Yorkshire-California-Slovenia

 

[liamito]

Konig not on Trentino official star list.
he´s in Czech Rep training, not even in Monaco nor Teide.

I think the Giro is gone. maybe Yorkshire-California-Slovenia

who will step in? Frosty?

 

[pastronef]

Konig not on Trentino official star list.
he´s in Czech Rep training, not even in Monaco nor Teide.

I think the Giro is gone. maybe Yorkshire-California-Slovenia

who will step in? Frosty?

I dont know. Nieve was supposed to ride the Tour.
we´ll see.

 

[MatParker117]

Konig not on Trentino official star list.
he´s in Czech Rep training, not even in Monaco nor Teide.

I think the Giro is gone. maybe Yorkshire-California-Slovenia

Yorkshire, Cali, Dauphine, Tour

 

[pastronef]

Konig not on Trentino official star list.
he´s in Czech Rep training, not even in Monaco nor Teide.

I think the Giro is gone. maybe Yorkshire-California-Slovenia

Yorkshire, Cali, Dauphine, Tour

I really have no idea. it depend if he renews for 2017. his contracts ends this year

 

[yaco]

Giro route suits Valverde. Not as hilly as usual with 3 TT is made for his characteristics.

 

[Brullnux]

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Giro route suits Valverde. Not as hilly as usual with 3 TT is made for his characteristics.

It's way hillier than usual. Don't think I've seen this many medium-mountain/hilly stages in a single Giro. 6 or 7 sprints, 3 mountain stages and 3 TTs. Leaves 7 or 8 hilly stages. Way more than normal. Not sure if three TTs suit him more than one, especially not an MTT and the prologue. I expect him to top-10 and maybe top-5 the hilly/flat one in Tuscany. The others he may lose time on.

 

[CraZyCaLL]

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Zakafroome will be fun to watch but seriously, even with help from Rusvelo it's hard to see him podium. Valverde on the other hand, I think he'll be ready. Lots of opportunities for boni seconds, his quality as an allrounder, experience and a strong team make him number one threat to Nibali.

Zakarin never rode GTs for GC. Last year he just wanted to be in good shape for spring week long stage races, this year he wants to reach his peak conditions in the Giro

 

[Mr.White]

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Giro route suits Valverde. Not as hilly as usual with 3 TT is made for his characteristics.

It's way hillier than usual. Don't think I've seen this many medium-mountain/hilly stages in a single Giro. 6 or 7 sprints, 3 mountain stages and 3 TTs. Leaves 7 or 8 hilly stages. Way more than normal. Not sure if three TTs suit him more than one, especially not an MTT and the prologue. I expect him to top-10 and maybe top-5 the hilly/flat one in Tuscany. The others he may lose time on.

Loose time to who? Valverde is usually very good prologue rider and top class in MTT. I don't think he'll loose time to anybody in all 3 TT's combine. Maybe to Nibali, but just maybe...

 

[Brullnux]

I actually think Valverde is weaker in Prologues or short TTs than longer ones, especially if the long one is hilly. Take the Vuelta last year, it is a long time since I've seen Bala coming 3rd in a prologue in a good field, but he smashed it in a 40km one there. Not sure about MTTs. Can barely remember the last time he was in one.

Edit: Ignoring prologues in Andalucia. I've found two MTTs he was in. A few years back he lost 52 seconds to Wiggins on the Col d'eze. He also lost 50 to Westra. 8th. Another in 2009 in the Vuelta when Lephemer won, with Contador second and Bala 3rd. He was s/t with Bertie, 31 seconds behind Leiphemer. Good performance, but very long ago.