2016 Paris - Nice, March 6th - 13th, WT

[Angliru]

I don't see the point of including Ventoux in a stage if it's over 100 km's from the finish.

 

[Jspear]

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I don't see the point of including Ventoux in a stage if it's over 100 km's from the finish.

AC will attack on Ventoux and win the stage.

 

[carolina]

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I don't see the point of including Ventoux in a stage if it's over 100 km's from the finish.

to drop kittel?!

 

[Miburo]

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I don't see the point of including Ventoux in a stage if it's over 100 km's from the finish.

to drop kittel?!

A bridge of 200 m at 2% will do that for you

 

[Tonton]

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I don't see the point of including Ventoux in a stage if it's over 100 km's from the finish.

AC will attack on Ventoux and win the stage.

Yes, he'll pull a Tyler Hamilton .

 

[jens_attacks]

Contador will try on ventoux, no doubt
Too bad we won't see it.

Make a selection, maybe bling has a bad day

 

[Angliru]

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I don't see the point of including Ventoux in a stage if it's over 100 km's from the finish.

AC will attack on Ventoux and win the stage.

Yes, he'll pull a Tyler Hamilton .

If we're thinking of the same stage, he'd have to break his clavicle first to add to the drama and epic nature of his victory.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I don't see the point of including Ventoux in a stage if it's over 100 km's from the finish.

AC will attack on Ventoux and win the stage.

Laughing

 

[TMP402]

Didn't realise Geraint Thomas crashed 35km from the finish.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Didn't realise Geraint Thomas crashed 35km from the finish.

He did, hopefully he is not hurt. He was back up right away in any case.

 

[Miburo]

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Didn't realise Geraint Thomas crashed 35km from the finish.

He did, hopefully he is not hurt. He was back up right away in any case.

Don't lie fleur

 

[Samamba]

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Didn't realise Geraint Thomas crashed 35km from the finish.

He fell on his knee.

 

[Poursuivant]

If any team goes even slightly hard onVentoux, Matthews will drop, this is in a different climbing league. I expect Tinkoff to distance him here, then Sky will help them.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Can Côte de la Roque d'Anthéron (4,2 km à 5,5%) and Col de Séze (1,7 km à 7,2%) make a selection after a tough start ?

 

[Red Rick]

I'd set 2 teammates in the break, and then attack on the Ventoux together with Majka, see how many you can drop.

 

[rhubroma]

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I don't see the point of including Ventoux in a stage if it's over 100 km's from the finish.

Exactly. These aren't the days of Coppi. "One man in the lead"...to make for romantic cycling.

If they want to include a giant of the sport on the course, then it should at least be potentially decisive. As it stands, its just another high intensity effort. It doesn't do credit to the climb. I'll be happy though if I eat my words.

 

[Bushman]

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I'd set 2 teammates in the break, and then attack on the Ventoux together with Majka, see how many you can drop.

I agree, they should try and get someone in the break. Thing is, Orica will probably try and come in between.

Tinkoff should definitely try something on Ventoux. Set a high pace in the bottom with Kiserlovski, Poljanski etc., then Contador and Majka to try and drop Matthews and form a group with Thomas, Dumoulin, Bardet, a couple of the strongest helpers.

Will be difficult but not impossible at all.

 

[roundabout]

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Can Côte de la Roque d'Anthéron (4,2 km à 5,5%) and Col de Séze (1,7 km à 7,2%) make a selection after a tough start ?

As far as I understand, the last 500 meters of Roque d'Anthéron are about 15% average.

 

[Orbit501]

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Didn't realise Geraint Thomas crashed 35km from the finish.

Think you'll find it's only news when G doesn't crash

 

[TMP402]

Anyone know what kind of time the peloton will reach Mont Ventoux?

 

[HelloDolly]

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I'd set 2 teammates in the break, and then attack on the Ventoux together with Majka, see how many you can drop.

I agree, they should try and get someone in the break. Thing is, Orica will probably try and come in between.

Tinkoff should definitely try something on Ventoux. Set a high pace in the bottom with Kiserlovski, Poljanski etc., then Contador and Majka to try and drop Matthews and form a group with Thomas, Dumoulin, Bardet, a couple of the strongest helpers.

Will be difficult but not impossible at all.

What is the point of that ...They are not a coalition

Contador, Majka & Trofimov need to drop Dumoulin as well and Thomas
But then there is Porte & Izaggire , etc

If fact every one is competition not just Matthews

 

[Bushman]

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I'd set 2 teammates in the break, and then attack on the Ventoux together with Majka, see how many you can drop.

I agree, they should try and get someone in the break. Thing is, Orica will probably try and come in between.

Tinkoff should definitely try something on Ventoux. Set a high pace in the bottom with Kiserlovski, Poljanski etc., then Contador and Majka to try and drop Matthews and form a group with Thomas, Dumoulin, Bardet, a couple of the strongest helpers.

Will be difficult but not impossible at all.

What is the point of that ...They are not a coalition

Contador, Majka & Trofimov need to drop Dumoulin as well and Thomas
But then there is Porte & Izaggire , etc

If fact every one is competition not just Matthews

I know, but if Thomas and Dumoulin are in a small lead group with Matthews distanced they will likely cooperate since they are both very close to the lead. Sky also have some strong climbers that should be able to make it in a smaller group and help Thomas.

And of course Contador has to drop Gearing Thomas and Dumoulin sometimes but not on Ventoux already.

 

[del1962]

Having looked at profile just cant see Ventoux as being decisive, too much flat after it till finish

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Great win for Bouhanni. Nice to see the king of the races with no other sprinters in them finally give a couple of the big names a kicking. He was really fast there.

 

[hfer07]

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Can Côte de la Roque d'Anthéron (4,2 km à 5,5%) and Col de Séze (1,7 km à 7,2%) make a selection after a tough start ?

The only good about that profile with the last two bumps is to encourage a strong breakaway to adventure, but I guess Sky will be interested in controlling the race for G as well as Giant for Dumoulin