2016 TdF, Stage 10: Escaldes-Engordany → Revel (197km)

[Martin]

Strange. They have all funny information average speed, current gradients, percentage of turns for individual rider in break etc. and they do not have a gaps.

12:57
French champion in trouble
Cummings, Sepulveda and Vichot are off the back.
...

13:33
...
5. Stephen Cummings, 2 pts

Holy crap.
Reminds how our goverment *** up its e-agenda.

 

[sir fly]

Now they really need to storm down the mountain and dig in at the bottom if they're serious about the breakaway.

 

[Stilletto]

now 4 in the lead Costa, Nibali, Sagan, Matthews ???

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Re: Re:

Cav and Kittel unsurprisingly dropped, Greipel hanging on in the peloton.

From 0 to 100 (Froome, Quintana) on a climbing scale:'

Kittel near 0
Cav 5-10
Griepel 10-15

?

I'd probably say Cav is not far off Kittel level now, he's gained that extra speed in his sprint back but it seems to have come at a cost of his climbing, he said he really struggled in the mountains the weekend.

Greipel has some decent form in being able stay in the bunch on climbs, especially when they aren't going full gas.

Interestingly, Cavendish hasn't been the fastest in any of the sprints so far - even in the sprints he's won:

Stage 1: Degenkolb - 69.95 km/h
Stage 3: Greipel - 62.14 km/h
Stage 4: Coquard - 68.8 km/h
Stage 6: Kittel - 74.27 km/h

 

[markene2]

I rememeber the last hill well, a type like Lulu, EBH or Lutsenko attacks. It will stick, but you have to push like a madman downhill.

 

[SKSemtex]

According the race center Cav Kittel in the peloton 58 second. Really really hard to believe.

 

[SKSemtex]

Re: Re:

Cav and Kittel unsurprisingly dropped, Greipel hanging on in the peloton.

From 0 to 100 (Froome, Quintana) on a climbing scale:'

Kittel near 0
Cav 5-10
Griepel 10-15

?

I'd probably say Cav is not far off Kittel level now, he's gained that extra speed in his sprint back but it seems to have come at a cost of his climbing, he said he really struggled in the mountains the weekend.

Greipel has some decent form in being able stay in the bunch on climbs, especially when they aren't going full gas.

Interestingly, Cavendish hasn't been the fastest in any of the sprints so far - even in the sprints he's won:

Stage 1: Degenkolb - 69.95 km/h
Stage 3: Greipel - 62.14 km/h
Stage 4: Coquard - 68.8 km/h
Stage 6: Kittel - 74.27 km/h

72.27 and it was uphill

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

Cav and Kittel unsurprisingly dropped, Greipel hanging on in the peloton.

From 0 to 100 (Froome, Quintana) on a climbing scale:'

Kittel near 0
Cav 5-10
Griepel 10-15

?

I'd probably say Cav is not far off Kittel level now, he's gained that extra speed in his sprint back but it seems to have come at a cost of his climbing, he said he really struggled in the mountains the weekend.

Greipel has some decent form in being able stay in the bunch on climbs, especially when they aren't going full gas.

Interestingly, Cavendish hasn't been the fastest in any of the sprints so far - even in the sprints he's won:

Stage 1: Degenkolb - 69.95 km/h
Stage 3: Greipel - 62.14 km/h
Stage 4: Coquard - 68.8 km/h
Stage 6: Kittel - 74.27 km/h

Acceleration and how long you can hold your sprint is much more important than top speed. If you accelerate from Kittels wheel when hes hit top speed, your top speed will be highest but youre unlikely to win the sprint

 

[glassmoon]

Froome @ 25s
f-you TV!
EDIT: Froome = Peloton

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Peloton just 25 seconds off the leading quartet of Nibali, Sagan, Matthews and Costa.

 

[Popchu]

Re:

Froome @ 25s
f-you TV!

The yellow jersey group aka the peloton.

 

[SKSemtex]

gap 25. So finally confirmed. Froome faster downhill than Sagan and Nibali

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Re: Re:

Cav and Kittel unsurprisingly dropped, Greipel hanging on in the peloton.

From 0 to 100 (Froome, Quintana) on a climbing scale:'

Kittel near 0
Cav 5-10
Griepel 10-15

?

I'd probably say Cav is not far off Kittel level now, he's gained that extra speed in his sprint back but it seems to have come at a cost of his climbing, he said he really struggled in the mountains the weekend.

Greipel has some decent form in being able stay in the bunch on climbs, especially when they aren't going full gas.

Interestingly, Cavendish hasn't been the fastest in any of the sprints so far - even in the sprints he's won:

Stage 1: Degenkolb - 69.95 km/h
Stage 3: Greipel - 62.14 km/h
Stage 4: Coquard - 68.8 km/h
Stage 6: Kittel - 74.27 km/h

72.27 and it was uphill

72.27 who and when?

 

[glassmoon]

Re: Re:

Froome @ 25s
f-you TV!

The yellow jersey group aka the peloton.

yeah. bit unfortunate choose of words by radio-tour

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Re: Re:

Cav and Kittel unsurprisingly dropped, Greipel hanging on in the peloton.

From 0 to 100 (Froome, Quintana) on a climbing scale:'

Kittel near 0
Cav 5-10
Griepel 10-15

?

I'd probably say Cav is not far off Kittel level now, he's gained that extra speed in his sprint back but it seems to have come at a cost of his climbing, he said he really struggled in the mountains the weekend.

Greipel has some decent form in being able stay in the bunch on climbs, especially when they aren't going full gas.

Interestingly, Cavendish hasn't been the fastest in any of the sprints so far - even in the sprints he's won:

Stage 1: Degenkolb - 69.95 km/h
Stage 3: Greipel - 62.14 km/h
Stage 4: Coquard - 68.8 km/h
Stage 6: Kittel - 74.27 km/h

Acceleration and how long you can hold your sprint is much more important than top speed. If you accelerate from Kittels wheel when hes hit top speed, your top speed will be highest but youre unlikely to win the sprint

Oh yeah sure, I just found it quite interesting nonetheless.

 

[tomorrow]

gap 25. So finally confirmed. Froome faster downhill than Sagan and Nibali

yup, but unless the break grows bigger, there is no point being there, for both of them.

 

[SKSemtex]

Re: Re:

Stage 6: Kittel - 74.27 km/h[/quote]
72.27 and it was uphill [/quote]
72.27 who and when?[/quote]
supposed to be 74.27 Kittel

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Re: Re:

Stage 6: Kittel - 74.27 km/h

72.27 and it was uphill [/quote]
72.27 who and when?[/quote]
supposed to be 74.27 Kittel[/quote]
Ah ok

 

[SKSemtex]

This had to cost Sagan a lot of energy.

 

[Leffe_Bruin]

Which sprinters are left in the peloton?

 

[Punkan]

A troll in charge of the race center? Not easy to get a grip on what's happening.

 

[Popchu]

Re:

Which sprinters are left in the peloton?

I'll guess we will see that when the coverage starts. But most of them are reported in difficulty at the start of the stage (Greipel, Cavendish, Kittel).

 

[carolina]

langeveld abandoned

 

[Stilletto]

BOD ?
SKY Landa, M.
MOV Izaguirre, J.
AST Nibali, V.
TNK Sagan, P.
ALM Dumoulin, S.
BMC Caruso, D.
DDD Cummings, S.
LAM Faria Da Costa, R.
OGE Matthews, M.

 

[Gigs_98]

The Race Centre is the most useless thing in the history of cycling.