Now I've come to the point where I'd rather have Froome as the winner over Quintana. What a ride today. Fail of the stage is Katusha and Purito though.. Ugh.
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Fight.The.Power said:There is no way they will run a full course tomorrow.
http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-montagne/mont-ventoux-mont-serein/84410
70mph gusts
Ramira said:PatrickLeeds said:Ramira said:CheckMyPecs said:Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, eh?70kmph said:Huge waste of energy
Very much so. If he rides conservative he's a robot and he's killing cycling. Now that he's actually attacking he's an idiot who has on clue what he's doing and wasting energy.
Just imagine for a second Contador or Nibali would have done it. Pretty sure there wouldn't be nearly the same backlash.
To be fair there hasn't been MUCH 'backlash' - mostly just people saying 'Don't like him normally, but chapeau'
which Is where I would stand if I had watched .... Must stop reading these threads while I am at work and before I watch the race.
You're right there's none of the vitriol that had been there in the past, which I think is good. Froome is far from a perfect cyclist, but he's also not the next Armstrong.
Yet there's so many posts saying it's either a dumb thing to do, cause he's wasting energy, or saying he must be afraid of Quintana. That doesn't really happen with Contador or Nibali.
PremierAndrew said:Froome would be so much more popular if he wasn't the biggest rival to the super popular Contador
its very hard to put vanmarcke,nibali,contador,froome in order for me....Sagan is clear no.1 of courseValv.Piti said:Some would argue Froome is top-2, me included, but Sagan is at least one above the rest. What a racer.ILovecycling said:Sagan is officialy God and Froome is a TOP 5 racer in the pro peloton...We witnessed something special...
Ramira said:PatrickLeeds said:Ramira said:CheckMyPecs said:Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, eh?70kmph said:Huge waste of energy
Very much so. If he rides conservative he's a robot and he's killing cycling. Now that he's actually attacking he's an idiot who has on clue what he's doing and wasting energy.
Just imagine for a second Contador or Nibali would have done it. Pretty sure there wouldn't be nearly the same backlash.
To be fair there hasn't been MUCH 'backlash' - mostly just people saying 'Don't like him normally, but chapeau'
which Is where I would stand if I had watched .... Must stop reading these threads while I am at work and before I watch the race.
You're right there's none of the vitriol that had been there in the past, which I think is good. Froome is far from a perfect cyclist, but he's also not the next Armstrong.
Yet there's so many posts saying it's either a dumb thing to do, cause he's wasting energy, or saying he must be afraid of Quintana. That doesn't really happen with Contador or Nibali.
Not sure if serious? I like the guy, but what's he doing listed in that kind of company? He's won about two races in 10 years.ILovecycling said:its very hard to put vanmarcke,nibali,contador,froome in order for me....Sagan is clear no.1 of courseValv.Piti said:Some would argue Froome is top-2, me included, but Sagan is at least one above the rest. What a racer.ILovecycling said:Sagan is officialy God and Froome is a TOP 5 racer in the pro peloton...We witnessed something special...
I would be a Froome fan if he was not racing for that boring Sky, thats for sure
MacBAir said:So, when Cav had a puncture he screamed like he was getting burned alive. Did anyone tell him that he definitely lost the green jersey today? When Cav is in heaven and he needs to be brought back down to earth, things usually get tough. Why didn't Boasson Hagen gave him his bike/stopped?
People aren't blaming Quintana for this stage alone. People are blaming him for being conservative, stupid and ignorant all year, every year.saganftw said:blaming quintana for not being positioned well or being able to respond on this kind of stage is stupis as f***,the guy is 57 kilograms with bicycle...in the end he was in the bunch,which is about as good as i would expect from him
you just have to compliment froome for attacking in two disciplines that are potentially quintanas weaknes,downhill and windy flat
anyway the difference is 35 seconds,if he is better than froome he will gain that time in the alps...if he is not stronger 12 seconds today wont matter
Completely correct. His mistake is not taking potential time loss on stages like this into account.saganftw said:blaming quintana for not being positioned well or being able to respond on this kind of stage is stupis as f***,the guy is 57 kilograms with bicycle...in the end he was in the bunch,which is about as good as i would expect from him
HelloDolly said:So many Froome detractors have become Froome fans all of a sudden. There is no denying he is a super talented rider but what gets me is the SKY team are too strong so they make him look even stronger....Do you think he would have tried today if riding for Movistar or Astana or FDJ or Ag2R..>A strong team make you look invincible
and SKY make the race result so much more predictable ...its sad but true
Matt92 said:Fight.The.Power said:There is no way they will run a full course tomorrow.
http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-montagne/mont-ventoux-mont-serein/84410
70mph gusts
It's actually 70 km/h, a little over 40mph.
Dude, he's 30 seconds behind, with the parts of the race most suited to him still to come. He'd have bitten your arm off to be in this position,if you offered it to him at the start of the race.MacBAir said:People aren't blaming Quintana for this stage alone. People are blaming him for being conservative, stupid and ignorant all year, every year.saganftw said:blaming quintana for not being positioned well or being able to respond on this kind of stage is stupis as f***,the guy is 57 kilograms with bicycle...in the end he was in the bunch,which is about as good as i would expect from him
you just have to compliment froome for attacking in two disciplines that are potentially quintanas weaknes,downhill and windy flat
anyway the difference is 35 seconds,if he is better than froome he will gain that time in the alps...if he is not stronger 12 seconds today wont matter
He was stupid when he only followed Froome and sky on every terrain without attacking once. He was stupid when he wasn't ready today and never gave it a go. He was stupid countless times, and stupid riders that never attack shouldn't win this tour.
hrotha said:Completely correct. His mistake is not taking potential time loss on stages like this into account.saganftw said:blaming quintana for not being positioned well or being able to respond on this kind of stage is stupis as f***,the guy is 57 kilograms with bicycle...in the end he was in the bunch,which is about as good as i would expect from him
Matt92 said:Fight.The.Power said:There is no way they will run a full course tomorrow.
http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-montagne/mont-ventoux-mont-serein/84410
70mph gusts
It's actually 70 km/h, a little over 40mph.
Matt92 said:Fight.The.Power said:There is no way they will run a full course tomorrow.
http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-montagne/mont-ventoux-mont-serein/84410
70mph gusts
It's actually 70 km/h, a little over 40mph.
HelloDolly said:So many Froome detractors have become Froome fans all of a sudden. There is no denying he is a super talented rider but what gets me is the SKY team are too strong so they make him look even stronger....Do you think he would have tried today if riding for Movistar or Astana or FDJ or Ag2R..>A strong team make you look invincible
and SKY make the race result so much more predictable ...its sad but true
Ramira said:perico said:This. He hasn't looked anywhere near 2013 levels in the mtns so far, so he has taken it to the race in other ways. It's impressive stuff.Rollthedice said:SeriousSam said:Is there anything Froome can't do
His power is immense
I doubt that his climbing is at the same level as in 2013.
So he's been stronger than he's ever been in the Tour in every way, and in the mountains he's not even been close to cracking, and the only real mountain stage there's been was such horrendous weather that he wasn't able to show what he could do.
What is it about that which makes people think he's not as good as he was in the past?
I'm not saying I'm sure he's better, or as good, because we haven't seen him tested yet, that will happen tomorrow. But there's zero indication he's not on the best form of his life.
kenk09 said:HelloDolly said:So many Froome detractors have become Froome fans all of a sudden. There is no denying he is a super talented rider but what gets me is the SKY team are too strong so they make him look even stronger....Do you think he would have tried today if riding for Movistar or Astana or FDJ or Ag2R..>A strong team make you look invincible
and SKY make the race result so much more predictable ...its sad but true
His teammates didn't get him across that gap to Sagan.