2016 TdF, Stage 13: Bg-St-Andéol → Caverne Pont-d'Arc (38km)

[Taxus4a]

Re:

That's an insane time from Dumoulin

It is a good one, as expected....the difference are going to be huge today for the wind.

Froome is not so aredinamic, but anyway I expect him to be about that time, I dont dare to say better.

 

[Simurgh]

Stage top 10 at the moment:

1. Dumolin 50'15''
2. Oliveira + 1'31''
3. Coppel + 1'35''
4. Dennis + 1'41''
5. Izagirre + 2'02''
6. Tony Martin + 2'05''
7. Cummings + 2'24''
8. Barta + 2'31''
9. Bodnar + 2'32''
10. Boasson Hagen + 2'34''

 

[Bumeington]

Frank Schleck on a TT bike really makes me laugh, cruising along on the base bars in the most unaerodynamic position possible

 

[Arredondo]

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Some people already said it a couple of years ago: with his riding style, Tony will not last for 5 more years.

Why?

The knees. You can't produce the same power for a long period of time with such a heavy cadence. The riding style of someone like Dumoulin is more sustainable.

That sounds an awful lot like the sort of statement that isn't supported by any kind of objective evidence base whatsoever...

 

[TMP402]

Poels having a training ride.

 

[Oliwright]

Re: 2016 TdF, Stage 13: Bg-St-Andéol → Caverne Pont-d'Arc (3

Big gaps between the top TT riders, i expect we will see something similar.

I expect Froome to catch yates.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Stef Clement 3rd best time at check 1. Surprisingly good

 

[Arredondo]

Porte to catch Purito and Froome Yates? Maybe it's possible.

 

[WillemS]

We can make flexible phones of a few mm wide and we're still stuck with chunky communication boxes during an ITT?

 

[Big Doopie]

Re: 2016 TdF, Stage 13: Bg-St-Andéol → Caverne Pont-d'Arc (3

Big gaps between the top TT riders, i expect we will see something similar.

I expect Froome to catch yates.

actually yates expects it too. he was pretty funny about it yesterday.

 

[WillemS]

Dumoulin almost has to be forced to talk about the ITT, says sports isn't important on a day like this.

 

[sir fly]

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Cannot see anyone getting near that.

Contador 2009 would beat that easily.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Re: Re:

That's an insane time from Dumoulin

wow, if froome is even close to tom d, tour will definitely be over.

I don't think he will. He won't be within a minute, and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't manage to crack the top 4.

 

[Pentacycle]

Re: Re:

Some people already said it a couple of years ago: with his riding style, Tony will not last for 5 more years.

Why?

The knees. You can't produce the same power for a long period of time with such a heavy cadence. The riding style of someone like Dumoulin is more sustainable.

That sounds an awful lot like the sort of statement that isn't supported by any kind of objective evidence base whatsoever...

Even if it's not the exact reason, Tony's decrease in performance over the last two-three years is evident. Him targeting the classics is definitely a sympton of his declining TT ability. He's one of worst at placing himself on the cobbles, and when he's well placed it's game over after 200k. It was saddening to see him accelrate with Boonen, only to see him fade at that barrier.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Dumoulin says he is only afraid of Froome. Says he rode a very good time trial and is very happy with it.

 

[portugal11]

Porte is a very overrated time trialist. He won't gain 3 minutes on purito

 

[Bumeington]

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Dumoulin says he is only afraid of Froome. Says he rode a very good time trial and is very happy with it.

Smart cookie, Froome is surely the only threat left

 

[Forever The Best]

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Cannot see anyone getting near that.

Contador 2009 would beat that easily.

I know that you are having another dig at Contador fans but:
Tour de France 2009 Stage 18 Results
1. Alberto Contador (Astana) 48min 30sec
2. Fabian Cancellara (Saxo) @ 3sec
3. Mikhail Ignatiev (Katusha) @ 15sec
4. Gustav Larsson (Saxo) @ 33sec
5. David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 41sec
6. Bradley Wiggins (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 43sec
7. Luis-Leon Sanchez (CAisse d'Epargne) @ 44sec
8. Christophe Moreau (Agritubel) @ 45sec
9. Andreas Kloden (Astana) @ 54sec
10. David Zabriskie (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 1min 2sec

The profile:

Contador 2009 could have beaten Dumoulin today.Froome can beat Dumoulin today as well if he brings his 2012 Tour/Olympics -2013 Tour-2014 Romandie TT form.Especially 2013 Tour-2014 Romandie TT form

 

[TomekA]

I'm afraid the gaps between GC guys will be gigantic.

 

[Arredondo]

Wuyts is curious to see how Kreuziger will do.

Why? Why so many people think he's a good time trialist? He's the most overrated TT'er ever!

 

[sir fly]

Re: Re:

Cannot see anyone getting near that.

Contador 2009 would beat that easily.

I know that you are having another dig at Contador fans but:
Tour de France 2009 Stage 18 Results
1. Alberto Contador (Astana) 48min 30sec
2. Fabian Cancellara (Saxo) @ 3sec
3. Mikhail Ignatiev (Katusha) @ 15sec
4. Gustav Larsson (Saxo) @ 33sec
5. David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 41sec
6. Bradley Wiggins (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 43sec
7. Luis-Leon Sanchez (CAisse d'Epargne) @ 44sec
8. Christophe Moreau (Agritubel) @ 45sec
9. Andreas Kloden (Astana) @ 54sec
10. David Zabriskie (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 1min 2sec

The profile:

Contador 2009 could have beaten Dumoulin today.Froome can beat Dumoulin today as well if he brings his 2012 Tour/Olympics -2013 Tour-2014 Romandie TT form.Especially 2013 Tour-2014 Romandie TT form

That's what I'm talking about.
What "dig"? What are you talking about?

 

[Bumeington]

No pins in Kelderman's number, guaranteed top 5?

 

[Forever The Best]

Re: Re:

Cannot see anyone getting near that.

Contador 2009 would beat that easily.

I know that you are having another dig at Contador fans but:
Tour de France 2009 Stage 18 Results
1. Alberto Contador (Astana) 48min 30sec
2. Fabian Cancellara (Saxo) @ 3sec
3. Mikhail Ignatiev (Katusha) @ 15sec
4. Gustav Larsson (Saxo) @ 33sec
5. David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 41sec
6. Bradley Wiggins (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 43sec
7. Luis-Leon Sanchez (CAisse d'Epargne) @ 44sec
8. Christophe Moreau (Agritubel) @ 45sec
9. Andreas Kloden (Astana) @ 54sec
10. David Zabriskie (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 1min 2sec

The profile:

Contador 2009 could have beaten Dumoulin today.Froome can beat Dumoulin today as well if he brings his 2012 Tour/Olympics -2013 Tour-2014 Romandie TT form.Especially 2013 Tour-2014 Romandie TT form

That's what I'm talking about.
What "dig"? What are you talking about?

Ah,I thought you were being sarcastic.My apologies then.
Though he wouldn't have beaten Dumo easily.But he could have beaten Dumo.

 

[Davesta]

Re: Re:

Some people already said it a couple of years ago: with his riding style, Tony will not last for 5 more years.

Why?

The knees. You can't produce the same power for a long period of time with such a heavy cadence. The riding style of someone like Dumoulin is more sustainable.

That sounds an awful lot like the sort of statement that isn't supported by any kind of objective evidence base whatsoever...

Even if it's not the exact reason, Tony's decrease in performance over the last two-three years is evident. Him targeting the classics is definitely a sympton of his declining TT ability. He's one of worst at placing himself on the cobbles, and when he's well placed it's game over after 200k. It was saddening to see him accelrate with Boonen, only to see him fade at that barrier.

Oh, I don't disagree with his performance decline. Especially in terms of results. There have been glimpses of his past dominance - his forcing on the front at Roubaix this year, for example. But this was a brief moment in comparison to his past TT domination, or his Vuelta solo raid, or his win in Mulhouse...

But I suspect the reason is due to a change in training focus (from TT/power training to classics-style racing, perhaps) or a drop in motivation or something similar. Rather than preferring 80rpm to 90rpm!

 

[Arredondo]

Re: Re:

Cannot see anyone getting near that.

Contador 2009 would beat that easily.

I know that you are having another dig at Contador fans but:
Tour de France 2009 Stage 18 Results
1. Alberto Contador (Astana) 48min 30sec
2. Fabian Cancellara (Saxo) @ 3sec
3. Mikhail Ignatiev (Katusha) @ 15sec
4. Gustav Larsson (Saxo) @ 33sec
5. David Millar (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 41sec
6. Bradley Wiggins (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 43sec
7. Luis-Leon Sanchez (CAisse d'Epargne) @ 44sec
8. Christophe Moreau (Agritubel) @ 45sec
9. Andreas Kloden (Astana) @ 54sec
10. David Zabriskie (Garmin-Slipstream) @ 1min 2sec

The profile:

Contador 2009 could have beaten Dumoulin today.Froome can beat Dumoulin today as well if he brings his 2012 Tour/Olympics -2013 Tour-2014 Romandie TT form.Especially 2013 Tour-2014 Romandie TT form

Had that Annecy TT the same amount of wind this TT has? Contador would also suffer more in these conditions comparing Dumoulin.