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2016 Tour de France, Stage 21: Chantilly → Paris (113km)

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I'd like to add my thanks and appreciation for your excellent stage preview posts. You have raised the bar.
As for today's stage, I hope all the GC contenders arrive at the finish safely.
I'd like to see a Sagan/Greipel 1/2 in either order. It would be nice if Alaphilippe got some sort of reward too.
 
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Fight.The.Power said:
Prudhomme tells L'Equipe that Sky "overpowered the race in the mountain passes" and "More than ever, we need 1 less rider per team"

Totally agree.

3 less riders per team would be better still.
 
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Prudhomme tells L'Equipe that Sky "overpowered the race in the mountain passes" and "More than ever, we need 1 less rider per team"

Totally agree.

Can't ASO do whatever they want in this regard, or do they really need the UCI's permission?

If not a breakaway, I'm hoping for Greipel. Kittel just rubs me the wrong way somehow.
 
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Praying Mantis ftw...

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Big ups!
 
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spalco said:
Fight.The.Power said:
Prudhomme tells L'Equipe that Sky "overpowered the race in the mountain passes" and "More than ever, we need 1 less rider per team"

Totally agree.

Can't ASO do whatever they want in this regard, or do they really need the UCI's permission?

If not a breakaway, I'm hoping for Greipel. Kittel just rubs me the wrong way somehow.
They should be able to do what they want, 2 riders less would be even better.
 
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They should be able to do what they want, 2 riders less would be even better.

Would it?

I think we have seen too many break away wins already. Because SKY or any other team didn't want to
chase. 2-3 riders less and it's not if they want to chase or not but they just can't anymore. Is that what we want to see, break wins continuously?
 
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Pulling a Vino today would require some courage with all the trains wanting to line.
Maybe Stuyven takes a shot. Tony Martin will be busy assisting Kittel, I suppose. Sagan, Van Avermaet... I don't think so. Vanmarcke?

Won't Vanmarcke be working for Groenwegen?
 
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luckyboy said:
spalco said:
Fight.The.Power said:
Prudhomme tells L'Equipe that Sky "overpowered the race in the mountain passes" and "More than ever, we need 1 less rider per team"

Totally agree.

Can't ASO do whatever they want in this regard, or do they really need the UCI's permission?

2.2.003 in UCI Regulations..

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Has to be lower for HC events - as they (...won't) be next year.
 
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Fight.The.Power said:
Prudhomme tells L'Equipe that Sky "overpowered the race in the mountain passes" and "More than ever, we need 1 less rider per team"

Totally agree.

honestly, what would that have changed this year? The (only) team fully dedicated and well prepared with respect to the GC having the best GC-contender (although Chris looked less invincible than he did in 2013 and last year) won - period .... 8 men teams wouldn't have changed zilch to this ...
unfortunately (for the suspense) no one was on par with Chris and no team was giving everything just for the one goal ....
besides, there is always a risk with the way Sky is set up: if the leader has to abandon (like in 2014), the team will be left with nothing (I doubt Poels would have filled the gap better than Porte in 2014) unless you are Tinkoff and have the likes of Peter Sagan or Rafal Majka in your team (and going for a KOM competition with just Thomas De Gendt willing to battle for it) ....
 
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honestly, what would that have changed this year? The (only) team fully dedicated and well prepared with respect to the GC having the best GC-contender (although Chris looked less invincible than he did in 2013 and last year) won - period .... 8 men teams wouldn't have changed zilch to this ...
unfortunately (for the suspense) no one was on par with Chris and no team was giving everything just for the one goal ....
besides, there is always a risk with the way Sky is set up: if the leader has to abandon (like in 2014), the team will be left with nothing (I doubt Poels would have filled the gap better than Porte in 2014) unless you are Tinkoff and have the likes of Peter Sagan or Rafal Majka in your team (and going for a KOM competition with just Thomas De Gendt willing to battle for it) ....

I think Froome was absolutely invincible this year, but otherwise I agree. Except maybe for yesterday's stage (which I only saw half of), when was he even remotely in any trouble?

But I also think people overestimate the effect a 7 man team would have both on the outcome of the race and the safety of the race.
On the second point: I doubt ASO would just cut 40 riders from the Tour, they would probably invite more teams to make up for the numbers. And even if there are fewer riders, smaller teams could make the race even more hectic because there's less room for errors and possibly more leaders if there are more teams taking part.
 
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spalco said:
loge1884 said:
I think Froome was absolutely invincible this year, but otherwise I agree. Except maybe for yesterday's stage (which I only saw half of), when was he even remotely in any trouble?

in 2013 and last year he just dumped everyone in the first two weeks - something that didn't happen this year - however I am not sure wether it was because he couldn't, or because he didn't have to - frankly speaking if the only threat in a three weeks race are two (minor) crashes and one attack of Romain Bardet, in all due respect, at this point in time certainly not tier1 GC-contender, then you perhaps can just lean back and watch what's happening ....