2016 Tour de Suisse, 11-19 June

[RedheadDane]

Awww! Everybody was so happy with Pantano winning!
That's what I love about cycling; a guy wins the stage and everybody he just beat reacts by... hugging him!

 

[roundabout]

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Did anyone see Geraint Thomas?

Can't find him on the results.

lost 11 minutes, 17 on GC in the end

 

[Breh]

losing 11minutes on a 57km stage...

 

[Flamin]

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Good lead-out this for Chernetskiy.

Hard to say, Pantano is also pretty fast, I still remember that Romandie stage when he finished 2nd behind Albasini.

Yeah but I meant Chernetskiy was just sitting in the wheels and everyone was fine with it, despite that he's not slow. Nice from Pantano to still beat him.

What's up with you and your "everybody should work" attitude? Why wouldn't he sit up in that group? Why would he work? To please you?! Only he didn't had a reason to pull, and he didn't. Perfectly fine by me, and obviously perfectly fine by all others in that group, as we saw.

How did you distract THAT from my posts? of course Chernetskiy shouldn't have taken a single pull.

 

[SafeBet]

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lost 11 minutes, 17 on GC in the end

Despite the win in Paris-Nice I wonder if he isn't regretting focusing on one week races this year.
Romandie and Suisse have been painful.

 

[Laplaz]

Oh Geraint. Forget your focus for GC

 

[PremierAndrew]

Geraint Thomas: How to go from pre-race favourite for a monument to a 2nd tier stage racer within a year.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Pantano has several good stage placings in sprints at Romandie, as long as he held on he was always going to win this

good stage.

 

[Bushman]

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Pantano has several good stage placings in sprints at Romandie, as long as he held on he was always going to win this

good stage.

Chernetskii too, though, and he didnt take a single pull

 

[This Charming Man]

Great attacking stage, like the stage winner, and GC winner too. It only would have been better, if they pummeled, the SHARK. :twisted:

 

[This Charming Man]

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Good lead-out this for Chernetskiy.

Hard to say, Pantano is also pretty fast, I still remember that Romandie stage when he finished 2nd behind Albasini.

Yeah but I meant Chernetskiy was just sitting in the wheels and everyone was fine with it, despite that he's not slow. Nice from Pantano to still beat him.

What's up with you and your "everybody should work" attitude? Why wouldn't he sit up in that group? Why would he work? To please you?! Only he didn't had a reason to pull, and he didn't. Perfectly fine by me, and obviously perfectly fine by all others in that group, as we saw.

I have to agree, the KATUSHA guy sitting on, like that, during a breakaway. No respect for KATUSHA there. If he had not contested the sprint, I would have respected him.

 

[Pippo_San]

So is Izaguirre a total dumbass? He let the stage win slip, and conducted the last kms in such a stupid way that he obiouvsly had zero chances to create a gap.
And really he looked like the strongest in the final kms.

 

[Mr.White]

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Good lead-out this for Chernetskiy.

Hard to say, Pantano is also pretty fast, I still remember that Romandie stage when he finished 2nd behind Albasini.

Yeah but I meant Chernetskiy was just sitting in the wheels and everyone was fine with it, despite that he's not slow. Nice from Pantano to still beat him.

What's up with you and your "everybody should work" attitude? Why wouldn't he sit up in that group? Why would he work? To please you?! Only he didn't had a reason to pull, and he didn't. Perfectly fine by me, and obviously perfectly fine by all others in that group, as we saw.

How did you distract THAT from my posts? of course Chernetskiy shouldn't have taken a single pull.

Well, we agree then. Must have misunderstood you, my bad :redface:

 

[saganftw]

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Good lead-out this for Chernetskiy.

Hard to say, Pantano is also pretty fast, I still remember that Romandie stage when he finished 2nd behind Albasini.

Yeah but I meant Chernetskiy was just sitting in the wheels and everyone was fine with it, despite that he's not slow. Nice from Pantano to still beat him.

What's up with you and your "everybody should work" attitude? Why wouldn't he sit up in that group? Why would he work? To please you?! Only he didn't had a reason to pull, and he didn't. Perfectly fine by me, and obviously perfectly fine by all others in that group, as we saw.

I have to agree, the KATUSHA guy sitting on, like that, during a breakaway. No respect for KATUSHA there. If he had not contested the sprint, I would have respected him.

poor chernetskiy,not only he didnt win the stage he also lost your respect

 

[May0maniac]

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Good lead-out this for Chernetskiy.

Hard to say, Pantano is also pretty fast, I still remember that Romandie stage when he finished 2nd behind Albasini.

Yeah but I meant Chernetskiy was just sitting in the wheels and everyone was fine with it, despite that he's not slow. Nice from Pantano to still beat him.

What's up with you and your "everybody should work" attitude? Why wouldn't he sit up in that group? Why would he work? To please you?! Only he didn't had a reason to pull, and he didn't. Perfectly fine by me, and obviously perfectly fine by all others in that group, as we saw.

I have to agree, the KATUSHA guy sitting on, like that, during a breakaway. No respect for KATUSHA there. If he had not contested the sprint, I would have respected him.

His captain Spilak was behind and he thought that he had a good chance of winning the stage, can you blame him?
I'm happy for Chernetckii, he finished in the top 10 on gc. The guy was a huge talent as an U23 rider, people already saw him as the next Russian gc contender.
Pantano and Chernetckii are both underrated when it comes to their sprint, both have beaten Alaphilippe in a reduced sprint in 2015 (even if Pantano just finished 2nd behind Albasini on that stage in Romandie, but that was just Albasini on Swiss soil).

 

[gunara]

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Pantano and Chernetckii are both underrated when it comes to their sprint, both have beaten Alaphilippe in a reduced sprint in 2015 (even if Pantano just finished 2nd behind Albasini on that stage in Romandie, but that was just Albasini on Swiss soil).

It's understandable that not everyone is aware already of Chernetskiy's sprint. But I don't think Pantano's sprint is underrated, most people here know he's fast and capable of high placing in very selective sprint in stage races. The reason he's not rated at Albasini's or Alaphillipe's sprinting level comes from their respective classic pedigree, I guess.

 

[Tank Engine]

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Oh Geraint. Forget your focus for GC

Either

1) Let him be protected for the Tour. That parcours, together with TdS, will put him off that idea of GC for the rest of his career.

or

2) He says he has lost a lot of weight (by cycling standards), either his body needs to adapt to the loss (if it can cope at all).

I'd rather see him going for the classics and hilly one-week races.

 

[winkybiker]

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Oh Geraint. Forget your focus for GC

Either

1) Let him be protected for the Tour. That parcours, together with TdS, will put him off that idea of GC for the rest of his career.

or

2) He says he has lost a lot of weight (by cycling standards), either his body needs to adapt to the loss (if it can cope at all).

I'd rather see him going for the classics and hilly one-week races.

At least he's stopped crashing all the time.

 

[May0maniac]

For a 21 years old riding his first season as a neopro Mamykin rode a pretty decent TdS.
Dombrowski rode a great TdS, he still as a few major flaws, but even with them he has a future as a great climbing superdomestiqe.
Now some rather bad news, in 2014 Sölden and the TdS signed a contract for 3 years, so next year we'll get a Rettenbachferner MTF for the third time in a row. Maybe this time they'll actually use a decent climb before the Rettenbachferner, but I seriously doubt that.
If the TdS has to leave Swiss soil I'd love to see them enter Italy and have a MTF on the Passo del Bernina, it's a really hard Swiss climb and yet we never get to see it in a race.

 

[Homo Helveticus]

Lopez has the potential to grow even better and bigger than Quintana. Don't forget he's just 22 years old. What a boy.

 

[BigMac]

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For a 21 years old riding his first season as a neopro Mamykin rode a pretty decent TdS.
Dombrowski rode a great TdS, he still as a few major flaws, but even with them he has a future as a great climbing superdomestiqe.
Now some rather bad news, in 2014 Sölden and the TdS signed a contract for 3 years, so next year we'll get a Rettenbachferner MTF for the third time in a row. Maybe this time they'll actually use a decent climb before the Rettenbachferner, but I seriously doubt that.
If the TdS has to leave Swiss soil I'd love to see them enter Italy and have a MTF on the Passo del Bernina, it's a really hard Swiss climb and yet we never get to see it in a race.

Oh God. :sad:

 

[staubsauger]

Maybe it's gonna be a mtt instead of a mtf at least.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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Lopez has the potential to grow even better and bigger than Quintana. Don't forget he's just 22 years old. What a boy.

Vino thinks so too.
Just extended his contract for two years at Astana.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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Lopez has the potential to grow even better and bigger than Quintana. Don't forget he's just 22 years old. What a boy.

Vino thinks so too.
Just extended his contract for two years at Astana.

I could potentially see Lopez beating Quintana in 1 week races like Tour de Suisse but not in 3 week races like Tour, Giro or Vuelta.

 

[Brullnux]

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Lopez has the potential to grow even better and bigger than Quintana. Don't forget he's just 22 years old. What a boy.

Vino thinks so too.
Just extended his contract for two years at Astana.

I could potentially see Lopez beating Quintana in 1 week races like Tour de Suisse but not in 3 week races like Tour, Giro or Vuelta.

Why? There is no reason why that is the case; Lopez has shown great recovery, albeit in a one-week race.