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McLovin said:Contador drops a teammate and throw him out of TDF podium. Froome applauds biggest rival.
damian13ster said:Kwibus said:damian13ster said:Kwibus said:webvan said:Wow, Contador looks old all of a sudden, time to bow out gracefully...
Could very well be, but I wouldn't be surprised if he can show up in great form in a GT next year. If he doesn't crash....
Or maybe he's done. Maybe. I don't think he can reach the level of Froome/Quintana anymore.... Allthough I did think he could challenge this TdF. Guess we'll see next year
He is done. Spent last 3 seasons trying to come up with enough excuses to still give some blind fans a bit of hope that he can even come close to Quintana and Froome's level
Sigh. Thank you for enlightment damian. Just what I needed an fair and objective opinion....
Hey, I have been proven right many times already. Not my fault you refuse to acknowledge the facts. Peak for spring, perform well in stage races (win some, lose some to your rivals domestiques), fail miserably at a Tour. Then go for Giro against weak rivals so you have excuse for failing miserably at a Tour. Next season, peak for spring, fail miserably at a Tour, fail at a Vuelta. FFS, no podium, no jersey, no stage win, and had the best prep among the pre-race contenders. What more do you need?
Yeah but he wasn't the best like he had been from 07-11 from then onward the best was Chrisskidmark said:MatParker117 said:Hugo Koblet said:The era of Contador is finally over.
It was over when Froome beat the tar out of him in the 100th tour.
He, uh, won two Grand Tours after that.
lol, that was my immediate reaction as well. Unfathomable.portugal11 said:Tour has 20 per centklintE said:Simple truth
Giro was more spectacular than Vueltaportugal11 said:Tour has 20 per centklintE said:Simple truth
Represents the people that only saw the Tour.portugal11 said:Tour has 20 per centklintE said:Simple truth
It was more dramatic but giro's first week was terribleIndianCyclist said:Giro was more spectacular than Vueltaportugal11 said:Tour has 20 per centklintE said:Simple truth
Hugo Koblet said:Represents the people that only saw the Tour.portugal11 said:Tour has 20 per centklintE said:Simple truth
And it was a pretty low quality field. A guy won who would have been miles out of contention in any of the two other GTs given their fields. Like watching a fairly entertaining Europa League game; whereas the Vuelta was more like a top quality Champions League game.portugal11 said:It was more dramatic but giro's first week was terribleIndianCyclist said:Giro was more spectacular than Vueltaportugal11 said:Tour has 20 per centklintE said:Simple truth
That guy beat another guy who arrived 3rd at this Vuelta.DFA123 said:And it was a pretty low quality field. A guy won who would have been miles out of contention in any of the two other GTs given their fields. Like watching a fairly entertaining Europa League game; whereas the Vuelta was more like a top quality Champions League game.
Ramon Koran said:Yeah but he wasn't the best like he had been from 07-11 from then onward the best was Chrisskidmark said:MatParker117 said:Hugo Koblet said:The era of Contador is finally over.
It was over when Froome beat the tar out of him in the 100th tour.
He, uh, won two Grand Tours after that.
True, but that doesn't really change the point. A GT these days without Quintana and Froome, is missing comfortably the strongest two GC riders in the world. No way Nibali would have gained anything close to 4 minutes back if either of those had been in the race.Eshnar said:That guy beat another guy who arrived 3rd at this Vuelta.DFA123 said:And it was a pretty low quality field. A guy won who would have been miles out of contention in any of the two other GTs given their fields. Like watching a fairly entertaining Europa League game; whereas the Vuelta was more like a top quality Champions League game.
The Giro was better this year.DFA123 said:And it was a pretty low quality field. A guy won who would have been miles out of contention in any of the two other GTs given their fields. Like watching a fairly entertaining Europa League game; whereas the Vuelta was more like a top quality Champions League game.portugal11 said:It was more dramatic but giro's first week was terribleIndianCyclist said:Giro was more spectacular than Vueltaportugal11 said:Tour has 20 per centklintE said:Simple truth
It isn't contradictory: viewtopic.php?p=2021455#p2021455Brullnux said:You say it was like an Europa league match but Chaves, who came 2nd at the Giro (3rd strongest of the race), came third here, in worse shape (like everyone in their second GT of the year after properly peaking for the first). So, the argument is in itself contradictory and based on zero actual evidence, rather just biased empiricism. The first week of the Giro wasn't even that bad, it was better than the first week of the Vuelta. The first week just had Ezaro and that stage Yates won. Camperona was awful as a first mountain stage. Roccaraso was better, despite the headwind. The stages into Praia a Mare and Arezzo were better. The ITT was a disappointment, and Sestola also wasn't great, but the stage into Asolo was great fun and the beautiful Friuli stage was raced poorly, but still produced more entertainment than most stages in the Vuelta. Then all the mountain stages from 14 onwards were fantastic (14,15,16,19,20). Pinerolo was bad, but still. The Vuelta had: Covadonga, Aubisque, Formigal and this I guess. The Giro was so much better. And actual medium mountain stages instead of muritos.
TdF is rigged.portugal11 said:Tour has 20 per centklintE said:Simple truth