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staubsauger said:
Martin has got zero chance to even top 5. He ain't no gc rider at all. He's proved that fact enough times already. And he's got enough chances to focus on the gc as well.
For his sake, it would be better if this were true but unfortunately it isn't. Martin got a top 10 last year, without even the support of even a single semi-competent climber to get him a bottle or a wheel. There was very little difference in level between any of the ten riders from 2nd to 11th, with the exception of Porte who probably should have been a semi-clear second (but who is also not guaranteed to ever put a good three weeks together again). Particularly, with a slightly weaker field, any of them could top 5 or even podium with only minor improvements in form or luck.

As a result, because Tour GC is so unreasonably important in modern cycling, Martin will want to ride seriously for GC and the team will certainly want him to do so. I'd prefer him to go all out as a stage hunter. It suits his attacking style better and more stages will look better on his palmares after he has retired than a few more top 10s or a couple of top 5s. But precisely because both he and the team can look at this years experience and think, basically correctly, that only a very small improvement or a bit of luck would be required to top 5 or even podium, that's what the realities of cycling mandate that he goes for.

In a better world anyone who can't actually hope to win the whole thing shouldn't be bothered about GC.
 
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Maaaaaaaarten said:
GP Blanco said:
Roglic first races:

1.2. – 5.2.2017 :  Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana, (ESP)
15.2 – 19.2. 2017: Volta ao Algarve am Bicicleta,, (POR)
4.3.2017 : Strade Bianche (ITA)
8.3. – 14.3.2017: Tirreno – Adriatico (ITA).
I'm really curious to see what Rogla will do this year. :)
Me too. I hope he will lead them in some one week races.
 
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Happy to see Quintana in Vuelta a Asturias, we'll see if he really comes here. The only problem is that he would be on form for the Giro and he's going to win if he wants very easy. Vuelta a Asturias has a lower level than it had decades ago, Movistar with their "B team" in Asturias are like US Postal or Sky in the Tour. At least the race is still alive.

What I like to see is the way Quintana races in the Giro, I can't imagine him going to Italy if it's not to be 100% focused on winning.
 
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GambadiLegno said:
Happy to see Quintana in Vuelta a Asturias, we'll see if he really comes here. The only problem is that he would be on form for the Giro and he's going to win if he wants very easy. Vuelta a Asturias has a lower level than it had decades ago, Movistar with their "B team" in Asturias are like US Postal or Sky in the Tour. At least the race is still alive.

What I like to see is the way Quintana races in the Giro, I can't imagine him going to Italy if it's not to be 100% focused on winning.
Pretty surprised that he chooses to ride Asturias; I like Movistar respecting the lesser Spanish stage races, but I'd say it was a notch early to go back to Europe. I guess he will use some of the time from Asturias till the Giro to look at some stages in the Giro and the Tour.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
GambadiLegno said:
Happy to see Quintana in Vuelta a Asturias, we'll see if he really comes here. The only problem is that he would be on form for the Giro and he's going to win if he wants very easy. Vuelta a Asturias has a lower level than it had decades ago, Movistar with their "B team" in Asturias are like US Postal or Sky in the Tour. At least the race is still alive.

What I like to see is the way Quintana races in the Giro, I can't imagine him going to Italy if it's not to be 100% focused on winning.
Pretty surprised that he chooses to ride Asturias; I like Movistar respecting the lesser Spanish stage races, but I'd say it was a notch early to go back to Europe. I guess he will use some of the time from Asturias till the Giro to look at some stages in the Giro and the Tour.
He is underestimating his rivals, asturias has lack of competition. He shoud do romandie (soft pedaling a little bit) and try to win a stage and test rivals. That's the reason I think he should do dauphine as a preparation race for le tour, just to see what shape he had and how strong he would be compared to his rivals.
 
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portugal11 said:
Valv.Piti said:
GambadiLegno said:
Happy to see Quintana in Vuelta a Asturias, we'll see if he really comes here. The only problem is that he would be on form for the Giro and he's going to win if he wants very easy. Vuelta a Asturias has a lower level than it had decades ago, Movistar with their "B team" in Asturias are like US Postal or Sky in the Tour. At least the race is still alive.

What I like to see is the way Quintana races in the Giro, I can't imagine him going to Italy if it's not to be 100% focused on winning.
Pretty surprised that he chooses to ride Asturias; I like Movistar respecting the lesser Spanish stage races, but I'd say it was a notch early to go back to Europe. I guess he will use some of the time from Asturias till the Giro to look at some stages in the Giro and the Tour.
He is underestimating his rivals, asturias has lack of competition. He shoud do romandie (soft pedaling a little bit) and try to win a stage and test rivals. That's the reason I think he should do dauphine as a preparation race for le tour, just to see what shape he had and how strong he would be compared to his rivals.
It has absolutely nothing to do with underestimating anything and no, he shouldn't soft-pedal Romandie. Besides, I doubt how good of a race Romandie is for preparation.
 
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portugal11 said:
Valv.Piti said:
GambadiLegno said:
Happy to see Quintana in Vuelta a Asturias, we'll see if he really comes here. The only problem is that he would be on form for the Giro and he's going to win if he wants very easy. Vuelta a Asturias has a lower level than it had decades ago, Movistar with their "B team" in Asturias are like US Postal or Sky in the Tour. At least the race is still alive.

What I like to see is the way Quintana races in the Giro, I can't imagine him going to Italy if it's not to be 100% focused on winning.
Pretty surprised that he chooses to ride Asturias; I like Movistar respecting the lesser Spanish stage races, but I'd say it was a notch early to go back to Europe. I guess he will use some of the time from Asturias till the Giro to look at some stages in the Giro and the Tour.
He is underestimating his rivals, asturias has lack of competition. He shoud do romandie (soft pedaling a little bit) and try to win a stage and test rivals. That's the reason I think he should do dauphine as a preparation race for le tour, just to see what shape he had and how strong he would be compared to his rivals.
I think racing in Asturias he's looking for motivation, he will see himself winning and in good shape, as his rivals are supposed to be people like Pardilla, Arroyo, Bizkarra, Veloso or Brandao...He's a guy who needs too see he's strong and he can win, his moral is very important for his performance.

On the other hand, IMO doing Dauphiné before the Tour is too much after Giro. Better for him I think would be a month with not so much training stress, and then start the Tour fresh. If not, the risk of burning in the 2nd week is high. Romandia, Giro, Dauphiné, and then expect to win the Tour, seems to much.
 
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Nirvana said:
GP Blanco said:
Plus Navardauskas does not have, at this moment, team mates who are better suited for this races. Which means he can go all in for himself.
There is Haussler. And i think he's the designated leader for cobbled races.
Haussler has become more of a Roubaix guy, he's not as strong on the climbs as he used to be, from what I've hear Navardauskas and Colbrelli will get opportunities to ride for themself in the cobbled classics in Belgium.
 

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