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'twas a very witty replyValv.Piti said:Because it was funny or because the spanish Gerrans has 4 victories while King Contador has zero, zero zero zero and no cinco?LaFlorecita said:In tears :lol:GuyIncognito said:All hail the spanish Gerrans
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He could win twenty races this year and he still wouldn't be considered a legend. Contador is already a legend and he will be remembered forever, not like valverde who he's knowing by his tremendous talent but a very negative/conservative riderValv.Piti said:Because it was funny or because the spanish Gerrans has 4 victories while King Contador has zero, zero zero zero and no cinco?LaFlorecita said:In tears :lol:GuyIncognito said:All hail the spanish Gerrans
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If a miracle happens and TJ wins by less than a minute over Valverde, many will frown, including me. BMC's whining reminds me of the Sky whining on the Ventoux last year. For a fist full of seconds, the team took away the legend: the run that never was. In the mind of many, including me, TJ winning the VAC would be the win that never was.
A referee decision was made yesterday, agree or disagree, we could/should have accepted it, but then it changed , and I have a big problem with that. It's an admission of incompetence. So why accept the second decision, when it's coming from self-proclaimed incompetents?
Sweet revenge today for Don Alejandro . I'm not a fan of his, but I will cheer for him to win this Volta.
I'm not so much of a prophet, but if I were, I'd be a prophet of gloom and doom...somethng will happen, and TJ will not win...the usual...Valv.Piti said:Im pretty sure the disaster that is Tejay Van Garderen won't win this bike race. If he does, needless to say, the win doesn't count. So he basically can't win no matter what.Netserk said:I'm sure you will be the first to kiss TJ's ring after this race is overValv.Piti said:
If a miracle happens and TJ wins by less than a minute over Valverde, many will frown, including me. BMC's whining reminds me of the Sky whining on the Ventoux last year. For a fist full of seconds, the team took away the legend: the run that never was. In the mind of many, including me, TJ winning the VAC would be the win that never was.
A referee decision was made yesterday, agree or disagree, we could/should have accepted it, but then it changed
, and I have a big problem with that. It's an admission of incompetence. So why accept the second decision, when it's coming from self-proclaimed incompetents? Sweet revenge today for Don Alejandro
. I'm not a fan of his, but I will cheer for him to win this Volta.
Are you not allowed to be upset when one of the race motorbikes runs over your bike destroying it?
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A bit of a difference Tonton, between supposed pushing in a TTT and crashing in to a motorbike as the TDF organisers did not take into account the excess of people who were squeezed onto a shorter Ventoux climb. That stage was completely at the fault of the organisers not the riders, Froome would have lost more than handful of seconds, I'm sure he lost close to 1min 40.
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A bit of a difference Tonton, between supposed pushing in a TTT and crashing in to a motorbike as the TDF organisers did not take into account the excess of people who were squeezed onto a shorter Ventoux climb. That stage was completely at the fault of the organisers not the riders, Froome would have lost more than handful of seconds, I'm sure he lost close to 1min 40.
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Yes, but would any top GC guy, not just Froome have been thrown out in that situation? I very much doubt it. Quintana also held onto a motorbike to get past the drama.
They neutralised the stage, which was correct as the organisers were at fault, so everything that happened after the motorbike crash did not count, or matter.
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Yes, but would any top GC guy, not just Froome have been thrown out in that situation? I very much doubt it. Quintana also held onto a motorbike to get past the drama.
They neutralised the stage, which was correct as the organisers were at fault, so everything that happened after the motorbike crash did not count, or matter.
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About the stage. It was a display of superiority from Don Alejandro on this kind of finishes. I hope he takes the race overall after the minute taken away yesterday. Although I wouldn't mind a crazy Contador attack (or from anybody else for that matter).
Where did you see anybody talking about an exciting race? I think everybody recognises it was a boring stage. But you know what. It was riders like Contador, Froome, Thomas, Bardet, Zakarin, Majka, Kruijswijk, riders who had nothing to lose, those riders were the main reason the stage was boring. Not Valverde. Him, Martin and Yates, they only played to their strength. They were waiting in the bunch to launch their sprint and the challenge from the above mentioned riders never came. So blame them. They should've anticipated with an attack and should've tried to prevent the punchers. I don't by any means want to accuse Contador of being boring lol. Far from that. Everybody knows he is one of the most exciting riders around. But why does he usually attack so early on a climb? Because he knows if he waits there's a very high probability he's beaten. Why does Valverde wait? The same. Because he knows if he waits till the last 300m there's high probability he beats everybody. Does it make Bala less of a legend. No it doesn't. And he is a cycling legend (OK it depends how high your criteria is). Only insecure fans of his rivals would like to diminish his achievements and make fun of him. And I'm not writing this as his fanboy. Valverde, Contador, Froome are all on the same level for me. I like them all.portugal11 said:First of all, I prefer way more a exciting race than see my favourite riders win. And of course my favourite riders are guys like contador, sagan, etc who give us a lot of entertainmentdacooley said:Huh, probably its high time to accept that people are entitled to admire valverde spurting to the finish line as much as you admire your riders?portugal11 said:
About the stage. It was a display of superiority from Don Alejandro on this kind of finishes. I hope he takes the race overall after the minute taken away yesterday. Although I wouldn't mind a crazy Contador attack (or from anybody else for that matter).
Why are people on here so myopic? You can be a legend and a boring bastard. Steve Davis the snooker player, Tim Duncan the basketball player etc. Now Valverde isn't my cup of tea either in style or personality. But he is a *** great bike rider who deserves respect. Not the whiny carping of a bunch of jelous schoolchildren.
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I don't blame the organizers, most don't. So let's agree to disagree, and be vigilant when certain teams get certain calls. Let's stay on topic, and I'm guilty for opening Pandora's box here. I'm supposed to be the guardian angel after all .
I hope Valverde wins. And I hope that the rule disappears. To me, TTT riders should be able to do whatever they want as long as there's no outside interference.
Yes, that is my main point: I hope that Valverde overcomes this: I don't feel comfortable with the decision and the second decision: it smells like behind the scene intrigues, it smells like...well you know what.
.I hope Valverde wins. And I hope that the rule disappears. To me, TTT riders should be able to do whatever they want as long as there's no outside interference.
Yes, that is my main point: I hope that Valverde overcomes this: I don't feel comfortable with the decision and the second decision: it smells like behind the scene intrigues, it smells like...well you know what.
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I think the forum will crash if TJ wins this race. It will be like when Levi won in Suisse!!!
They will have to shut down the forum for 1 day!!
They will have to shut down the forum for 1 day!!
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If Gerrans wins another classic or Porte wins a GT some fans will probably head to the river with rocks in their pockets or maybe there will be a sudden increase in TV warranty claims....................if Contador wins something expect to see a spike in the Spanish birth rate nine months later.
Escarabajo said:I think the forum will crash if TJ wins this race. It will be like when Levi won in Suisse!!!
They will have to shut down the forum for 1 day!!
If Gerrans wins another classic or Porte wins a GT some fans will probably head to the river with rocks in their pockets or maybe there will be a sudden increase in TV warranty claims....................if Contador wins something expect to see a spike in the Spanish birth rate nine months later.
the truly question is: if anglo-saxon riders such as Tj and Dennis didn't start whining on Twitter, becoming suddenly polemical in social media, anything of this would have happen. That's the power of Twitter in the post-Truth era. In order to have certain power, the tuit must be in english (that's why I repeat the anglo-saxon thing)
The rules, the jury, oh, they reacted after that, and they ridiculously fall in the trap: we placate this criticism, we put some sanctions but not pennalise Valverde for the overall (until this solution is the trap as the book rules says).
The question is: the rules must be interpretated, not taken literally, one must know about cycling!!!! the pushes are not allowed to increase the pace or making a derny. Since Rojas touches more than pushes, in order not to collision, there is no gain!
If Tejay wins, there will be always a shadow on his victory. But I doubt he will maintain the lead
The rules, the jury, oh, they reacted after that, and they ridiculously fall in the trap: we placate this criticism, we put some sanctions but not pennalise Valverde for the overall (until this solution is the trap as the book rules says).
The question is: the rules must be interpretated, not taken literally, one must know about cycling!!!! the pushes are not allowed to increase the pace or making a derny. Since Rojas touches more than pushes, in order not to collision, there is no gain!
If Tejay wins, there will be always a shadow on his victory. But I doubt he will maintain the lead
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Borderline racism. Their ethno-linguistic identity had nothing to do with their recourse to Twitter, their recourse to Twitter had nothing to do with their ethno-linguistic identity.
Disgraceful post
Aguirre said:
Borderline racism. Their ethno-linguistic identity had nothing to do with their recourse to Twitter, their recourse to Twitter had nothing to do with their ethno-linguistic identity.
Disgraceful post
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It does, do you think a tuit in spanish or french would have such an impact? c'ommon guy, accept that english has become hegemonic in cycling displacing old countries such as Italy, Spain, France and Belgium.
Armchair cyclist said:
It does, do you think a tuit in spanish or french would have such an impact? c'ommon guy, accept that english has become hegemonic in cycling displacing old countries such as Italy, Spain, France and Belgium.
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