2018 Giro d'Italia stage 7: Pizzo – Praia a Mare 159 km

[seldon71]

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Betancur must really have messed up, probably creating a little gap at around 1-2 sec up to De la Parte and Sepulveda who were the last riders in the peloton before the split....

Oh gosh Carlos.

EXACTLY!

 

[Pantani_lives]

I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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And after time trial at 25 minutes back upto Etna, Wilier-Triestina managed to mass-disappear in a run-in.

Mareczko somehow managed to spring for 6th place, but he was horribly positioned and with no help from something like 800 metres out. Pitiful team, which doesn't belong in Giro (I got no problem with the rest of Wild Cards).

Yep. Isreal Cycling Acadamy is much more visible and impressive so far

So well they should be, given that a billionaire bought them the bulk of a new team precisely so they can make a good showing at the Giro.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Bennett has excellent speed but often has dubious timing.

 

[RedheadDane]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

Must have been a little confusing how the same guy was apparently both a challenger for the sprints, and an top-10 guy for the GC.

 

[movingtarget]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

And you were wondering how that sprinter could climb so well !

 

[yaco]

As expected S.Bennett got his GT stage win which is a good reward for his continous rate of improvement - Will be interesting to see what happens after 2019 as he'll always be riding the Giro and the Vuelt with Sagan in the team - It's actually not a bad schedule and gives Bennett the chance to get more wins.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

The Velon stuff has been mostly useless, but their info on sprints is quite interesting. That one was over 70 kph for instance. Those guys are lunatics. It’s scary enough descending at that speed, doing it in a mass sprint must require some kind of brain defect.

 

[Tarnum]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

Must have been a little confusing how the same guy was apparently both a challenger for the sprints, and an top-10 guy for the GC.

There are people who can do both. For instance there is this Dumoulin guy.

 

[RedheadDane]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

Must have been a little confusing how the same guy was apparently both a challenger for the sprints, and an top-10 guy for the GC.

There are people who can do both. For instance there is this Dumoulin guy.

There's also Martin, except with time trialing instead of sprinting.

 

[tobydawq]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

Must have been a little confusing how the same guy was apparently both a challenger for the sprints, and an top-10 guy for the GC.

There are people who can do both. For instance there is this Dumoulin guy.

There's also Martin, except with time trialing instead of sprinting.

He's even a double climber!

 

[PeterB]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

Must have been a little confusing how the same guy was apparently both a challenger for the sprints, and an top-10 guy for the GC.

There are people who can do both. For instance there is this Dumoulin guy.

 

[Koronin]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

And you were wondering how that sprinter could climb so well !

Well there is a guy named Valverde who can climb very well and has a sprint that is good enough to get involved in full field sprints when he wants to.

 

[Brullnux]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

And you were wondering how that sprinter could climb so well !

Well there is a guy named Valverde who can climb very well and has a sprint that is good enough to get involved in full field sprints when he wants to.

I know you love Valverde, and yes he has a great sprint, but he isn't going to beat Viviani.

 

[Koronin]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

And you were wondering how that sprinter could climb so well !

Well there is a guy named Valverde who can climb very well and has a sprint that is good enough to get involved in full field sprints when he wants to.

I know you love Valverde, and yes he has a great sprint, but he isn't going to beat Viviani.

He's not, unless unless it's a good uphill sprint finish. However, he can climb and he does have a sprint and sometimes he is willing to mix it up with the sprinters. He's also more than willing to give a lead out to his sprinter as well. (I also didn't say he could beat Vivianni, just that his sprint is fast enough to mix it up with the sprinters).

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

@Koronin
Do you know that in 632 of your total 1137 posts you used one specific surname, Valverde?

 

[silvergrenade]

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@Koronin
Do you know that in 632 of your total 1137 posts you used one surname?

How many of yours contain Froome? :razz:

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

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@Koronin
Do you know that in 632 of your total 1137 posts you used one surname?

How many of yours contain Froome? :razz:

One moment please..
EDIT: Sorry, no results because 'Froome' is too common
And 'CF' - too short.

 

[StryderHells]

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And after time trial at 25 minutes back upto Etna, Wilier-Triestina managed to mass-disappear in a run-in.

Mareczko somehow managed to spring for 6th place, but he was horribly positioned and with no help from something like 800 metres out. Pitiful team, which doesn't belong in Giro (I got no problem with the rest of Wild Cards).

I agree that they let Mareczko down today which is a pity as he looks to be in good form but they are doing the job of a wildcard team, they've had riders in the break in stages 4, 5, 6 and 3 top 10's by Mareczko.

 

[Robert5091]

Chapeau Sam Bennett! Good for him & Bora.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

And you were wondering how that sprinter could climb so well !

Well there is a guy named Valverde who can climb very well and has a sprint that is good enough to get involved in full field sprints when he wants to.

I know you love Valverde, and yes he has a great sprint, but he isn't going to beat Viviani.

He's not, unless unless it's a good uphill sprint finish. However, he can climb and he does have a sprint and sometimes he is willing to mix it up with the sprinters. He's also more than willing to give a lead out to his sprinter as well. (I also didn't say he could beat Vivianni, just that his sprint is fast enough to mix it up with the sprinters).

Valverde is definitely the closest thing to a genuinely competent sprinter among the climbers.

It’s harder to settle on the best climbers among the sprinters. None of them are “genuinely competent” by the standards of serious climbers, but a few of them are decent. Perhaps Lobato or Matthews?

At the start of his career it looked like Bennett might turn out to be as much of a hilly rider as a big bunch sprinter. He is probably the lightest of the top sprinters bar Caleb Ewen. His breakthrough win as a Conti rider was the queen stage of the Tour of Britain, which he won from an elite selection of eight. That race also provided the bizarre sight of him being the only rider to follow Quintana when Nairo attacked on a climb (Nairo of course dropped him not very long afterwards). However, he quickly found out after getting a pro contract that there is a very big difference between ToB hills and WT mountains. And as he has progressed as a sprinter it’s hard to see him seriously training for hills again. Nowadays he is very unpredictable on a hilly course, he can be among the most durable or he can be dropped with Kittel and Marezcko.

 

[Koronin]

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I just found out that Sam Bennett and George Bennett are two different people. They're even from a different country. What would we be without the Internet?

And you were wondering how that sprinter could climb so well !

Well there is a guy named Valverde who can climb very well and has a sprint that is good enough to get involved in full field sprints when he wants to.

I know you love Valverde, and yes he has a great sprint, but he isn't going to beat Viviani.

He's not, unless unless it's a good uphill sprint finish. However, he can climb and he does have a sprint and sometimes he is willing to mix it up with the sprinters. He's also more than willing to give a lead out to his sprinter as well. (I also didn't say he could beat Vivianni, just that his sprint is fast enough to mix it up with the sprinters).

Valverde is definitely the closest thing to a genuinely competent sprinter among the climbers.

It’s harder to settle on the best climbers among the sprinters. None of them are “genuinely competent” by the standards of serious climbers, but a few of them are decent. Perhaps Lobato or Matthews?

At the start of his career it looked like Bennett might turn out to be as much of a hilly rider as a big bunch sprinter. He is probably the lightest of the top sprinters bar Caleb Ewen. His breakthrough win as a Conti rider was the queen stage of the Tour of Britain, which he won from an elite selection of eight. That race also provided the bizarre sight of him being the only rider to follow Quintana when Nairo attacked on a climb (Nairo of course dropped him not very long afterwards). However, he quickly found out after getting a pro contract that there is a very big difference between ToB hills and WT mountains. And as he has progressed as a sprinter it’s hard to see him seriously training for hills again. Nowadays he is very unpredictable on a hilly course, he can be among the most durable or he can be dropped with Kittel and Marezcko.[/quote]


I'd agree with you that Matthews, Labato and I would add Movistar's current sprinter Barbero as the best climbers of the sprinters. Maybe Sagan? Although at this point I'd almost classify him as much as a classics rider as a sprinter.

 

[SKSemtex]

From where is this nonsens that Mathews is the best climber among the sprinters?
Did you watch AGR? Did you watch TA last year?

 

[yaco]

Jungels is quick but rarely gets to show it at QuickStep.