2019 Giro d'Italia, stage 3: Vinci - Orbetello 220 km

[JosephK]

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Fubo/Flobikes: "We're experiencing signal issues from the video source. We're working on it and will get things running in no time."

That killed me … happened right as they were inside 4k to go. (I subscribed to Flobikes just a couple days ago.) Luckily for me, I found another streaming source online in time to catch the final 2k and the sprint to the line.

 

[glassmoon]

semi-called it

 

[Rollthedice]

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To be honest it looks pretty evident that wasn't intentional, not that it would matter.
Edit: Nibali 13th, be careful sprinters!

Out-classed by Yates and López.

Roglic around number 50. Not unlucky there were no splits in front of him.

He is clearly fading, a few more of these flat stages and he's done.

 

[Lequack]

I wonder if these flat stages help the GC guys get in form or is it the opposite, especially the guys who came in udnercooked? Their training would probably consist of harder efforts normally.

 

[JosephK]

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Tao Geoghegan Hart and most of INEOS team 1:30 down on Viviani.

Nibali testing out the voodoo apparatus for full use in week 3.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Good relegation. I think that was too dangerous.

 

[Screecher]

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Lefevere must be fuming.

I was right. https://twitter.com/PatLefevere/status/1127974940848865281

 

[spalco]

Nah, I've watched it a bunch of times now, nothing wrong with Viviani's sprint imo, that's ridiculous.

He didn't go fully straight, but he was in front and he was faster anyway.

That shouldn't be a DQ, give him a fine if you must, but that wasn't particularly dangerous. And certainly not intentional, just lost his line a bit while firing the afterburners.

 

[SafeBet]

Correct decision, if you're you ask me.

 

[Sestriere]

Although I agree it was a dangerous move, it is always a bit weird when a rider wins after a relegation that was not obstructed by the winner's move. Moschetti would never have won today. Maybe a 50 point penalty would be more appropriate in such a case?

 

[AQETUYIOI]

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Nah, I've watched it a bunch of times now, nothing wrong with Viviani's sprint imo, that's ridiculous.

He didn't go fully straight, but he was in front and he was faster anyway.

That shouldn't be a DQ, give him a fine if you must, but that wasn't particularly dangerous. And certainly not intentional, just lost his line a bit while firing the afterburners.

It's perfectly fine to sabotage someone else coming of your wheel, if you're in front of them?

 

[Red Rick]

I think it's a close call.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Very severe decision by the jury. I don't think it was enough for a relegation.

 

[Mayomaniac]

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Lefevere must be fuming.

I was right. https://twitter.com/PatLefevere/status/1127974940848865281

Pat is a grumpy old guy who yells at clouds and throws a tantrum whenever a decision doesn't favour his team.

 

[AQETUYIOI]

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Although I agree it was a dangerous move, it is always a bit weird when a rider wins after a relegation that was not obstructed by the winner's move. Moschetti would never have won today. Maybe a 50 point penalty would be more appropriate in such a case?

Those he obstructed gets a bump up in the standings, but not an unobstructed sprint.

 

[spalco]

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It's perfectly fine to sabotage someone else coming of your wheel, if you're in front of them?

The leader chooses the line generally, yes, and Moschetti was far enough back to be able to reduce his speed and not make contact. If he bumps the guy next to him, that's different, but even that has traditionally been allowed.

 

[King Boonen]

Viviani was in the process of launching his sprint and picking his line into wide open space, he’d already gone past Moschetti and was much faster than him. No contact, very little danger. I think it’s a poor decision.

 

[AQETUYIOI]

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The leader chooses the line generally, yes, and Moschetti was far enough back to be able to reduce his speed and not make contact. If he bumps the guy next to him, that's different, but even that has traditionally been allowed.

Get to obstruct others, even when it's unnecessary? He barely avoided Viviani.

 

[AQETUYIOI]

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Viviani was in the process of launching his sprint and picking his line into wide open space, he’d already gone past Moschetti and was much faster than him. No contact, very little danger. I think it’s a poor decision.

Viviani was in front of Moschetti, then Moschetti went up on Viviani's side, then Viviani obstruted Moschetti, almost making him crash and also obstructing Démare.

 

[Lequack]

 

[spalco]

Get to obstruct others, even when it's unnecessary? He barely avoided Viviani.

Riders get obstructed constantly, what are you talking about? That's part of racing and usually not illegal. You have to look where the guy ahead of you is going and act accordingly.

 

[Lequack]

 

[AQETUYIOI]

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Riders get obstructed constantly, what are you talking about? That's part of racing and usually not illegal. You have to look where the guy ahead of you is going and act accordingly.

Sprinters shouldn't take part in sprints because other sprinters might not hold their line?
https://my.mail.ru/mail/tizucumacu/video/_myvideo/1679.html?time=1655(27:40)

 

[Lequack]

Maybe sprinters will need to have painted lanes in the future, like in XC skiing, where each sprinters takes their lane in the finishing straight and doesn't deviate from it.

 

[RunningRouleur]

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I don't care if it's leashed, bringing a dog to a bike race is a terrible idea.