2019 Giro d'Italia, stage 5: Frascati - Terracina 140km

[Laplaz]

Re:

Time for GC at first passage of the circuit.
The Rai reports

Right decision imo

 

[HelloDolly]

Roglic has a bigger lead that anyone in 37 years at this stage of the Giro
I think the others need to take the race to him sooner rather than later ...put him under pressure Astana, Movistar , MS& Bahrain

I hope they don't wait till the last few stages.
I know he looks great but he hasn't had a 3 week test with the best riders...some of his stage race wins had limited competition
His TT is the best in the race now and he needs to be tested in other ways

 

[Carols]

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Roglic has a bigger lead that anyone in 37 years at this stage of the Giro
...
I hope they don't wait till the last few stages.
I know he looks great but he hasn't had a 3 week test with the best riders...some of his stage race wins had limited competition
His TT is the best in the race now and he needs to be tested in other ways

You don't think last years TdF had the best riders in it?

 

[Climbing]

Not easy to test somebody on an overpass either.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Vervaeke showing his 2014 legs

 

[HelloDolly]

Re: Re:

Roglic has a bigger lead that anyone in 37 years at this stage of the Giro
...
I hope they don't wait till the last few stages.
I know he looks great but he hasn't had a 3 week test with the best riders...some of his stage race wins had limited competition
His TT is the best in the race now and he needs to be tested in other ways

You don't think last years TdF had the best riders in it?

I meant as leader ...which is a whole different ball game

 

[sir fly]

I went for a glass of water during the break and ended with an umbrella in my hand... tough stage for viewers as well.

 

[Lequack]

Random fistbump
https://twitter.com/ronnyjowe/status/1128667039072182272

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I doubt it will happen today, but with times taken at the first passage of the line, what happens if the break is caught during the last circuit? The stage winner will not be the guy with the best time: how is that recorded?

Also, is there a 3km to the first crossing of the line rule?

 

[Laplaz]

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I doubt it will happen today, but with times taken at the first passage of the line, what happens if the break is caught during the last circuit? The stage winner will not be the guy with the best time: how is that recorded?

Was asking exactly the same

 

[shalgo]

Re: Re:

I doubt it will happen today, but with times taken at the first passage of the line, what happens if the break is caught during the last circuit? The stage winner will not be the guy with the best time: how is that recorded?

Was asking exactly the same

Similarly, what happens if someone attacks the peloton just before the first passage of the line and grabs a five-second gap? Would that gap count for GC?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re: Re:

I doubt it will happen today, but with times taken at the first passage of the line, what happens if the break is caught during the last circuit? The stage winner will not be the guy with the best time: how is that recorded?

Was asking exactly the same

Similarly, what happens if someone attacks the peloton just before the first passage of the line and grabs a five-second gap? Would that gap count for GC?

Yes?

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Re:

I doubt it will happen today, but with times taken at the first passage of the line, what happens if the break is caught during the last circuit? The stage winner will not be the guy with the best time: how is that recorded?

Also, is there a 3km to the first crossing of the line rule?

3 km rule would be interesting - assuming that would mean 3 km from the first finish line which today would be approximately 12.2 km from the finish (would not be marked so might require some guesswork from race jury and riders).

 

[Climbing]

Clearly the stage will be won on the real finish, simply the GC time variation are calculated at the first passage.
I'm not sure about the 3km rule though, that is an interesting question.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Ewan flat... peloton accelerates, lol

 

[Climbing]

So many long faces, can't blame them, looks horrible.

 

[Põhja Konn]

They don't sprint for the stage win on the first passage over the line, so there's no need for bringing extra 3k marker in play before that. Essentially what they have done is to extend the the usual 3k rule to 9.6 k (or whatever the exact lenght of that loop is) for todays stage. At least that is how I understand the situation.

 

[spalco]

GC guys won't be sprinting to the line today, just look at them, everyone will be happy to roll in safely for a warm shower.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Re:

Time for GC at first passage of the circuit.
The Rai reports

Outdoors sport or not?

 

[Lequack]

The only good thing is that it is a short stage.

 

[Kafviar]

Re: Re:

Time for GC at first passage of the circuit.
The Rai reports

Outdoors sport or not?

"Extreme weather"

Looks like a normal summer day to me.

 

[King Boonen]

Re:

I doubt it will happen today, but with times taken at the first passage of the line, what happens if the break is caught during the last circuit? The stage winner will not be the guy with the best time: how is that recorded?

Also, is there a 3km to the first crossing of the line rule?

It's recorded as it happened. Stage winner and then GC times adjusted based on recorded time. As there is zero overlap between the GC riders and the sprinters trying to win a stage where this would happen I don't think it would cause any issue. Almost certain this happened before on the Champs didn't it?

[quote="Laplaz":1bagdi4h][quote="Armchair cyclist":1bagdi4h]I doubt it will happen today, but with times taken at the first passage of the line, what happens if the break is caught during the last circuit? The stage winner will not be the guy with the best time: how is that recorded?

Was asking exactly the same[/quote]
Similarly, what happens if someone attacks the peloton just before the first passage of the line and grabs a five-second gap? Would that gap count for GC?[/quote]

Well, yes, obviously. Whether they apply the rules about time between gaps would be interesting, but this seems like an unlikely situation. Is a GC hopefully, who is likely a terrible sprinter, going to waste a huge amount of energy to get a few seconds and possibly none? The pace is still going to be high at that point so getting a big enough gap would take a serious effort.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

And relax...

 

[spalco]

Man, I can't remember seeing something like this in the Giro, but they are lucky it's such a short stage. Imagine doing that for another 100K.

 

[fuiers]

Crazy stage. Waterpark all over.