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Tried to map it. Just above 120 km if you start in Pinzolo.That would be a pretty short stage no?
And a little bit more flat between the final climbs right?Tried to map it. Just above 120 km if you start in Pinzolo.
Tonale+Gavia is what you get if you turn left after Carlo Magno, so it may be a copy-paste of the map.
Maybe a couple of km... negligibleAnd a little bit more flat between the final climbs right?
And a little bit more flat between the final climbs right?
In any case, Stelvio seems clearly better but it's not like the Gavia option would make a bad stage.
It was a single 59km ITT I think.
That Giro route was so great
Cima Coppi was on Finestre, below 2200m. And I've just read his comments on altitude in the 2020 Tour rumors thread.Did you also think that before the race?
I think I rated it a 5.5Did you also think that before the race?
He was far from dominating, he only finished third and we had bigger (and not by little) gaps in shorter ITTs in the following years. The problem (not for me because i think the bigger TT gaps are the farther climbers are forced to attack, if provided with proper terrain instead of junior mountain stages) was the gap of a single contender that incidentally was the stronger one but lost due to team tactics favouring his weaker team mate because with a team behind him he could have overcome that ITT gap.weren't there more ITT KM in 2015?
Did Contador's domination of that TT end the very long ITT forever?
While this is a great looking stage, I would imagine the logistics and contracts wouldn't allow for such deviations at the last moment.You can also easily combine Durone and Daone if you go back like 500m on SS237 in Preore.
I sadly don't really have much time right now to check my info (need to work as a semicolon investigator) but if i remember correctly normally Gavia and Stelvio have a much worse weather at the time of Giro than Agnello. I assume it's mainly because Agnello is much further south. I also think normally between Gavia and Stelvio the former one seems to have a worser weather (maybe coincidence or microclimate). It may be possible to use Umbrail (250m below Stelvio) if there are too many weather concerns. There's also a possibility of doing the stage the other way around with Bernina-Livigno-Eira-Foscagno (max alt 2315m). I guess the main problem with both options are the ventures into Switzerland (Munster or Poschiavo). I don't think a 2012 Mortirolo even with Trivigno would be that great especially as it seems the stage before would then have a similar profile.
Great to have Valbona and Bondone, not so great they'll be softpedalled. Would be happy if they finnish in the town.Apparently the profile of Madonna di Campiglio got published on today's Gazzetta.
Here it is (from Cicloweb forum)
Weirdly, they load the first half a lot, while the second is much softer than I thought. It looks like they want this to be more of a transition stage, as it is squeezed by two other demanding stages. A bit of a shame really, since with Daone instead of Durone this would be an awesome stage.
Logistics and contracts weren't a problem in 2013 when they skipped Sestriere on the way to Jafferau and S.Pellegrino+Giau on the way to Tre Cime. The cross-border route is the problem for such a late change.While this is a great looking stage, I would imagine the logistics and contracts wouldn't allow for such deviations at the last moment.
He was far from dominating, he only finished third and we had bigger (and not by little) gaps in shorter ITTs in the following years. The problem (not for me because i think the bigger TT gaps are the farther climbers are forced to attack, if provided with proper terrain instead of junior mountain stages) was the gap of a single contender that incidentally was the stronger one but lost due to team tactics favouring his weaker team mate because with a team behind him he could have overcome that ITT gap.
Yes, it looks like a compromise between adding fatigue for the next day and making the final 70km easy enough so that people are still willing to attack on stage 16.Great to have Valbona and Bondone, not so great they'll be softpedalled. Would be happy if they finnish in the town.
If anything this adds more damage to the next day rather than creating a super exciting stage on its own.
Would there be any climbs preceding Piancavallo the day before?Yes, it looks like a compromise between adding fatigue for the next day and making the final 70km easy enough so that people are still willing to attack on stage 16.
we don't know about the Piancavallo stage, but the day before Campiglio is the stage to S.Daniele.Would there be any climbs preceding Piancavallo the day before?
Look at me judging every route without being able to frigging read.we don't know about the Piancavallo stage, but the day before Campiglio is the stage to S.Daniele.