Giro d'Italia 2021 Giro d'Italia, Stage 17: Canazei - Sega di Ala 193 km

[huangho]

Remco DNF, they took away his numbers... But Remco is discussing about continuing

That's Nieve but no idea who the Bahrain guy was. I'm guessing it's not him by him not being shown

Radio says is Bilbao

 

[titan31]

I know that wasn't his fault but Remco really needs to improve his descending. Unless he gets very lucky with a GT full of time trials and no descending, he will never win a GT imo unless his descending improves a lot.

 

[limak_]

Radio says is Bilbao

Hopefully..

 

[Mayomaniac]

I don't want do bash him, but did Remco try to surpass the other rider on the outside of that corner?

 

[Climbing]

Vincenzo gonna catch Ciccone and give him his bike?

 

[Lequack]

Evenapoel ribs right onto the barrier on a downhill, that looked nasty

Similar to how Roglic almost went over the barrier at the Giro. Luckily it was just grass on the other side.

 

[Velolover2]

Poor Remco. It will be hard for him to find confidence on the descent.

 

[huangho]

Remco DNF, they took away his numbers... But Remco is discussing about continuing

Today Remco is proving to be worthy... Huge kudos to him!!

 

[Rollthedice]

No idea how Vincenzo didn't crash there... scary stuff.

He can't catch a break, had to wait for Ciccone, rides in the back in a descent and as far as I saw his teammate crashes beside him.

 

[Bonimenier]

I don't want do bash him, but did Remco try to surpass the other rider on the outside of that corner?

I think he mainly did because he saw the riders on the ground a bit further. He probably thought he could pass them on the outside.

 

[HelloDolly]

Where is nibali

 

[JosefK]

I don't want do bash him, but did Remco try to surpass the other rider on the outside of that corner?

To me, it looked like he saw the crash in front of him and lost some control when braking.

 

[Skalman]

I don't want do bash him, but did Remco try to surpass the other rider on the outside of that corner?

No? thats not the way i saw it, he took it easy, the others had already crashed and he tried to avoid them but had no room.

 

[titan31]

Two Bahrain still in that group so Caruso and Bilbao. Guessing the Bahrain rider must have been someone like Valls or Tratnik who were getting back on

 

[Mayomaniac]

I think he mainly did because he saw the riders on the ground a bit further. He probably thought he could pass them on the outside.

Yeah, probably.
I hope he's ok, that looked painful.

 

[tobydawq]

Caruso and Bilbao are both in the front of the group now, so it was probably Rafa Valls.

 

[carolina]

He's back on the bike, that's a good sign.

 

[Poursuivant]

Poor Remco. It will be hard for him to find confidence on the descent.

Agree, but he is young enough to improve

 

[Lequack]

 

[JosefK]

Remco has gotten back on the bike.

 

[kingjr]

I don't want do bash him, but did Remco try to surpass the other rider on the outside of that corner?

Nah the other rider hit the brakes. He did too and almost crashed then already

 

[limak_]

Seems like Ciccone having some problem with his hand or sth.

 

[F_Cance]

Thanks Valls for ruining Yates and Ciccones chances

 

[will-10]

Get that boy to the grupetto.

 

[carton]

To be fair, the way they promoted themselves up to and around their launch was pretty OTT both in terms of overhype and corporate buzzwords and self-promotion that oozed condescension toward the existing teams and structures which rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I mean, every single element of Team Sky had its own article and press release in early 2010, where they touted their scientific approach and advancements in such revolutionary fields as "Team Sky prepare sprint train in sprint training" and "Team Sky prepare for time trials with new time trial bikes", all while hyping their revolutionary new science-based approach, which lots of existing teams who were doing everything their budget would allow in that direction found patronising and disrespectful, before you got to Wiggins' "Wigan" comments about Garmin and claiming "it's like we won the Champions' League" after winning the TTT at the Tour of flaming Qatar.

Plus of course, they got a lot of lessons in 2010 about how road cycling has an awful lot more variables than track and requires a lot more adapting to. Once they did adapt, they could apply the lessons that they'd learned, but after all that bluster, it was no surprise there was a bit of triumphalism about their underwhelming introduction to the sport and that set them off on the wrong foot with a lot of the fanbase before they started behaving like US Postal and inviting those comparisons until people made the ones they didn't like.

I mean, sure, that was a bit of it. And though I'm hardly one for showmanship I do think some people are awfully prudish about shunning it, particularly in a sport that is almost entirely fueled by marketing and national pride. But I also do think some of the antagonism goes beyond gripes over marketing claims, ribbing over a soft landing, and even other less than flattering comparisons you allude to.

And IMHO at the end of the day the way they are racing, and the way the have been developing young talent, and the respect they have shown the races and their rivals have improved over the years as they have assimilated and carved out their own space within the sport. But hey, YMMV.

Anyway, glad to see Bike Exchange at least making it a hard race into Sega di Ala. And Remco getting up and trying to make it to Milan.