Giro d'Italia 2021 Giro d'Italia: Stage-by-Stage Analysis

[Brullnux]

Don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but whatever. How real is the danger of stages 16 and 20 to get cancelled? The weather seems to be pretty bad and those stages go above 2000m. I'm a little worried

For Stage 16 only Fedaia is in any real trouble (if it actually snows), Pordoi and Giau are important through roads that are usually open in the winter too. Even then though, it's still hovering aroud melting point re degrees. It's sludgy snow at worst, which is easy to clear.

 

[Gigs_98]

I guess my fear is whether they are willing to let the race go though if it snows on the descents. 2014 might not actually be a pro argument for that, as much as we might have enjoyed it. It doesn't need to be colder than, let's say, 4 degrees on the top of the passes for it to snow really heavily.

 

[Gigs_98]

Don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but whatever. How real is the danger of stages 16 and 20 to get cancelled? The weather seems to be pretty bad and those stages go above 2000m. I'm a little worried

My oh my, hottakes on point again...

 

[Red Rick]

My oh my, hottakes on point again...

Any hot takes about the 2021 Euros, in particular the Dutch team?

 

[Gigs_98]

Any hot takes about the 2021 Euros, in particular the Dutch team?

Quarantined due to Covid outbreak

 

[Escarabajo]

Just like it was said in previous years, in stages over 2000 meters why don't they have a plan B from the beginning. It would be only one stage at the most. Everyone would know. The probabilities of something bad happening in both scenarios start to diminish. At least we would know what to expect. The queen stage cannot be affected every year in the Giro like this. It just doesn't make sense.

 

[limak_]

Just like it was said in previous years, in stages over 2000 meters why don't they have a plan B from the beginning. It would be only one stage at the most. Everyone would know. The probabilities of something bad happening in both scenarios start to diminish. At least we would know what to expect. The queen stage cannot be affected every year in the Giro like this. It just doesn't make sense.

Plan B likely wouldn't be a worthy replacement that still could be called a "queen stage" anyway. I suppose organising a stage isn't that easy and it would be too much extra job (and money) for organisers to come up with plan B for every stage over 2000m. It's much easier just to shorten or reroute the planned stage. "At least we would know what to expect" is not enough reason here imo.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Hmm, I mean not many stages have multiple passes over 2000 metres, so I dont think its an unreasonable request.

I mean every race organizer with at least some pride wouldn't cancel multiples passes based on the information we have today, but it shouldn't be that hard to come up with some decent plans if theres some real danger when we know that these high mountain stages in the Giro have a certain risk.

 

[chiocciolis_calves]

Remember all those deaths of pro cyclists over the many decades in the rain and snow? And without helmets!

Decisions like this are making this sport a joke, along with banning descending positions, earpiece coaching, power meters, and all the rest of the nonsense.

It's a tough sport meant for tough guys. They should understand that. Alas, this generation was raised mostly in a Western culture in which "safety" is paramount above all other things. This will only get worse and make the sport even more boring and formulaic, all while giving more advantages to the richest teams. It's sad. Truly sad.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Maybe the question is a bit inappropriate, but is the Mottarone MTF going to happen like planned after the recent tragedy?
For those who don't know, a cable car crash happend on Sunday, 14 people died.

 

[roundabout]

Mottarone is the first climb, not the MTF

 

[Eshnar]

Maybe the question is a bit inappropriate, but is the Mottarone MTF going to happen like planned after the recent tragedy?
For those who don't know, a cable car crash happend on Sunday, 14 people died.

It seems the region has asked to avoid the Mottarone (only that climb, the stage will still happen), but no official news yet.

 

[Mayomaniac]

It seems the region has asked to avoid the Mottarone (only that climb, the stage will still happen), but no official news yet.

Yes, with the ongoing investigation and the crash just happening I can see why they would avoid the climb.

 

[Red Rick]

When I called it the Vuelta a Italia I didn't mean for this to happen.

 

[Escarabajo]

When I called it the Vuelta a Italia I didn't mean for this to happen.

That distinction is already given to the Vuelta a Francia!

I just saw the parcours and almost made me puke! I don't understand why organizers are so soft now a days.

 

[Mayomaniac]

That distinction is already given to the Vuelta a Francia!

I just saw the parcours and almost made me puke! I don't understand why organizers are so soft now a days.

GTs are becoming easier and easier...
My main problem is that they didn't go all out with the Andorra stage to make it a real tappone with Pailheres and Envalira from North before Beixalis and that they didn Put another climb before the Tourmalet on the final mountain stage.
Other than that it's not that bad, stage 8 is good, comes after a long hilly stage and with Tignes on stage 9 being a rather easy MTF and the early ITT creating some gaps we could see some action on stage 8.
The Ventoux stage is also pretty good and with 2 mid length TTs riders actually have to attack.

 

[RedheadDane]

That distinction is already given to the Vuelta a Francia!

I just saw the parcours and almost made me puke! I don't understand why organizers are so soft now a days.

Soft? Because they don't want something as unimportant as a bike race to go up that climb after what happened?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Soft? Because they don't want something as unimportant as a bike race to go up that climb after what happened?

I think he's talking about the TdF route.

 

[RedheadDane]

I think he's talking about the TdF route.

Oh... I just thought that since this is the Giro route thread, and the discussion was about the scrapping of the affected climb on stage 19.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Oh... I just thought that since this is the Giro route thread, and the discussion was about the scrapping of the affected climb on stage 19.

I could be wrong.
But I doubt that anyone would puke, if an organiser is being officially asked to scrap a climb.

 

[SafeBet]

It seems the region has asked to avoid the Mottarone (only that climb, the stage will still happen), but no official news yet.

It's official now. No Mottarone.

 

[Leinster]

 

[Red Rick]

Dislike it but let's be real that stage was always gonna be just about the final climb.

 

[Escarabajo]

I could be wrong.
But I doubt that anyone would puke, if an organiser is being officially asked to scrap a climb.

You are right . This is the classic example of why I should go back to school and take more English classes to improve my writing skills. In my mind I knew exactly what I was saying. Obviously it wasn't clear in my writing.

 

[Escarabajo]

GTs are becoming easier and easier...
My main problem is that they didn't go all out with the Andorra stage to make it a real tappone with Pailheres and Envalira from North before Beixalis and that they didn Put another climb before the Tourmalet on the final mountain stage.
Other than that it's not that bad, stage 8 is good, comes after a long hilly stage and with Tignes on stage 9 being a rather easy MTF and the early ITT creating some gaps we could see some action on stage 8.
The Ventoux stage is also pretty good and with 2 mid length TTs riders actually have to attack.

Gosh, I almost didn't like anything. In the last week I hate they they are putting short stages with 2 hard climbs one after another almost creating the sensation of power climbs. First is perfect for the trains and then the second is just about who has the biggest power. Like robotic. They could have made the high altitude stage a little harder just to truly test the depth of the riders. I don't know it just looks perfect for the trains. Hope we see something better. I am becoming Red Rick!!!!

 

[IndianCyclist]

Every time a potential problem presented itself on this Giro, Ineos Grenadiers had the individual quality to solve it or the collective might to overwhelm it.

This statement in an article of CN by Barry Ryan basically sums up this Giro
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