• The Cycling News forum is looking to add some volunteer moderators with Red Rick's recent retirement. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to @SHaines here on the forum, or use the Contact Us form to message the Community Team.

    In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.

    Thanks!

2022 Tour de France CQ Game

It's nearly July, so the non-cycling fan world suddenly becomes aware of our sport, and we find ourselves trapped between on one hand wanting to be dismissive of the hype and asserting how much better the racing is in every other event of the year, and on the other knowing that this race encompasses the best riders seeking to be at their peak.

But we can take pride in burrowing down into the less fabled riders among the peloton and showing our expertise and judgement in the Tour de France CQ game.

Or you can be proud of being a July fan and just pick anyone you have heard of, or who has a name you like the sound of: you'll probably still beat some of us.

Your team Your task is to pick 8 riders who will be taking part in the Tour, and who between them have a total current CQ score of 4000 or less. That CQ score is their tally of points from the previous year, as allotted at CQRanking.com: more specifically, their score for the year to Sunday 26th June, which will be available for download on the 27th.

Your score Your score is also on a scale determined by the CQ site: The biggest points are for GC (600 for the winner, 20 for anyone who finishes), but there are stage points (80 for the winner, 1 for 10th), points for the KoM and Green jersey final classifications (same scale as stage points) and a 20 point daily bonus for the man who is to wear Yellow on the next stage.

Entering the Game Firstly: don't try to do so until the prices are set after CQ has processed all the points from national championships weekend on Sunday. But when your team is ready, send it to me by PM at either Cycling News Forum or on VeloRooms. It saves me time if you put the name in CQ's format (surname, then forename; particular care needed on riders from Spanish speaking countries, Portugal and Denmark; accents are handled inconsistently) and put nothing else in your message: I don't need you to tell me their team or price. You must do so by the time the first rider starts on the Time Trial course in Copenhagen at 4pm local time on Friday 1st July. As soon as possible after the first team is sent in, I will share my selection with that manager to avoid me being tempted to steal good ideas from other managers. You can change your team after you send it in if you have second thoughts before the deadline: if there is a problem with your selection I will let you know unless you leave it until the last few hours. I do have an established set of rules for making substitutions in your team if it is overbudget or has non-participating riders.

During the race There is nothing you have to do, and nothing you can do, once the race starts. I will do updates daily (real life permitting) in a minor competition (based on stage top ten points only) as well as the main game, which will become more realistic as the GC becomes more settled.

There is no prize beyond bragging rights, but if you are on VeloRooms I can add a little yellow or green jersey to your profile, which is nice...

Can I help?If you have any questions, feel free to post them here, or send them to me by PM.
But I also hope I can help via this spreadsheet which I will update as the team line-ups become clearer, which helps you compile a team within budget, gives the preferred presentation of names, shows the scheme for the points you can win, and will have the correct prices from Monday afternoon. Search will, if he is true to his former very helpful self, put a list of riders and prices up when most are confirmed in this thread.

So I hope you will have a go, whether you are one of the regulars (you have to take part in this to be part of my 4 seasons challenge) or new to these games, or normally only try the annual game. And see of you can persuade someone else to have a go, even if they are just sticking a pin in a list of names: they won't be the only one (unless RhD changes tactic)

Good luck, and enjoy the game and the racing.
 
If you prefer not to use the spreadsheet, here are the riders and their prices, with the correct versions of their names. Many thanks to Search who put this together at VR:

UAE TEAM EMIRATESAG2R CITROEN TEAM
POGACAR Tadej
3457​
O'CONNOR Ben
1065​
BENNETT George
101​
BOUCHARD Geoffrey
343​
BJERG Mikkel
103​
CHEREL Mikael
109​
HIRSCHI Marc
817​
COSNEFROY Benoît
1085​
LAENGEN Vegard Stake
80​
DEWULF Stan
429​
MAJKA Rafal
516​
JUNGELS Bob
204​
MCNULTY Brandon
814​
NAESEN Oliver
312​
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
171​
PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien
405​
6059​
3952​
ALPECIN-FENIXASTANA – QAZAQSTAN
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
1452​
LUTSENKO Alexey
614​
DILLIER Silvan
92​
RIABUSHENKO Aliaksandr
78​
KRIEGER Alexander
16​
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
151​
GOGL Michael
94​
FELLINE Fabio
152​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
1180​
GRUZDEV Dmitriy
40​
PLANCKAERT Edward
57​
MOSCON Gianni
267​
SBARAGLI Kristian
209​
VELASCO Simone
292​
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
27​
ZEITS Andrey
209​
3127​
1803​
B&B HOTELS P/B KTMBAHRAIN VICTORIOUS
BONNAMOUR Franck
515​
CARUSO Damiano
809​
BARTHE Cyril
148​
GRADEK Kamil
33​
GOUGEARD Alexis
42​
HAIG Jack
782​
LECROQ Jérémy
51​
MOHORIC Matej
1591​
LEMOINE Cyril
30​
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
208​
MOZZATO Luca
465​
TEUNS Dylan
985​
ROLLAND Pierre
152​
TRATNIK Jan
366​
SCHÖNBERGER Sebastian
153​
WRIGHT Fred
188​
1556​
4962​
BORA - HANSGROHECOFIDIS
VLASOV Aleksandr
1301​
MARTIN Guillaume
943​
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
461​
PERICHON Pierre-Luc
209​
HALLER Marco
199​
GESCHKE Simon
336​
KÄMNA Lennard
380​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
640​
KONRAD Patrick
395​
LAFAY Victor
323​
POLITT Nils
634​
PEREZ Anthony
233​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
272​
THOMAS Benjamin
568​
VAN POPPEL Danny
930​
WALSCHEID Maximilian
493​
4572​
3745​
EF EDUCATION - EASYPOSTGROUPAMA - FDJ
BETTIOL Alberto
258​
GAUDU David
803​
BISSEGGER Stefan
299​
DUCHESNE Antoine
28​
POWLESS Neilson
836​
GENIETS Kévin
115​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
519​
KÜNG Stefan
1400​
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
445​
LE GAC Olivier
129​
DOULL Owain
103​
MADOUAS Valentin
679​
RUTSCH Jonas
120​
PINOT Thibaut
483​
URAN URAN Rigoberto
469​
STORER Michael
561​
3049​
4198​
INEOS GRENADIERSINTERMARCHÉ - WANTY - GOBERT
THOMAS Geraint
460​
KRISTOFF Alexander
1079​
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan
93​
BYSTRØM Sven Erik
140​
GANNA Filippo
735​
GOOSSENS Kobe
140​
VAN BAARLE Dylan
911​
MEINTJES Louis
446​
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
996​
PASQUALON Andrea
409​
PIDCOCK Thomas
435​
PETIT Adrien
235​
ROWE Luke
40​
VAN DER HOORN Taco
405​
YATES Adam
981​
ZIMMERMANN Georg
356​
4651​
3210​
ISRAEL - PREMIER TECHJUMBO - VISMA
FUGLSANG Jakob
499​
ROGLIC Primoz
2793​
CLARKE Simon
370​
BENOOT Tiesj
532​
FROOME Chris
39​
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
328​
BOIVIN Guillaume
169​
KUSS Sepp
505​
HOULE Hugo
256​
LAPORTE Christophe
771​
NIV Guy
40​
VAN AERT Wout
2570​
NEILANDS Krists
153​
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
93​
WOODS Michael
946​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
1602​
2472​
9194​
LOTTO SOUDALMOVISTAR TEAM
EWAN Caleb
382​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
1067​
FRISON Frederik
42​
ERVITI OLLO Imanol
125​
GILBERT Philippe
330​
TORRES BARCELO Albert
21​
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
152​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka
158​
KRON Andreas Lorentz
355​
JORGENSON Matteo
239​
VAN MOER Brent
70​
MÜHLBERGER Gregor
44​
VERMEERSCH Florian
264​
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes
174​
WELLENS Tim
795​
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
357​
2390​
2185​
QUICK-STEP - ALPHA VINYLTEAM ARKÉA - SAMSIC
JAKOBSEN Fabio
1110​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
885​
ASGREEN Kasper
642​
BARGUIL Warren
928​
BAGIOLI Andrea
302​
BOUET Maxime
182​
CATTANEO Mattia
418​
CAPIOT Amaury
526​
SENECHAL Florian
680​
HOFSTETTER Hugo
892​
HONORE Mikkel Frølich
603​
LOUVEL Matis
459​
LAMPAERT Yves
280​
OWSIAN Lukasz
180​
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael
178​
SWIFT Connor
477​
4213​
4529​
TEAM BIKEEXCHANGE - JAYCOTEAM DSM
MATTHEWS Michael
895​
BARDET Romain
720​
BAUER Jack
29​
DAINESE Alberto
519​
DURBRIDGE Luke
242​
DEGENKOLB John
170​
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
59​
EEKHOFF Nils
65​
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
519​
HAMILTON Chris
115​
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
10​
LEKNESSUND Andreas
304​
MEZGEC Luka
290​
VERMAERKE Kevin
83​
SCHULTZ Nicholas
169​
TUSVELD Martijn
111​
2213​
2087​
TOTAL ENERGIESTREK - SEGAFREDO
SAGAN Peter
377​
PEDERSEN Mads
1053​
BODNAR Maciej
156​
CICCONE Giulio
451​
BURGAUDEAU Mathieu
343​
GALLOPIN Tony
145​
LATOUR Pierre
437​
KIRSCH Alex
93​
OSS Daniel
122​
MOLLEMA Bauke
875​
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
288​
SIMMONS Quinn
418​
TURGIS Anthony
482​
SKUJINS Toms
236​
VUILLERMOZ Alexis
389​
STUYVEN Jasper
883​
2530​
4154​
 
Last edited:
If you prefer not to use the spreadsheet, here are the riders and their prices, with the correct versions of their names. Many thanks to Search who put this together at VR:

UAE TEAM EMIRATES :wineglass:AG2R CITROEN TEAM :wineglass:
POGACAR Tadej
3457​
O'CONNOR Ben
1065​
BENNETT George
101​
BOUCHARD Geoffrey
343​
BJERG Mikkel
103​
CHEREL Mikael
109​
TRENTIN Matteo
754​
COSNEFROY Benoît
1085​
LAENGEN Vegard Stake
80​
DEWULF Stan
429​
MAJKA Rafal
516​
JUNGELS Bob
204​
MCNULTY Brandon
814​
NAESEN Oliver
312​
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
171​
PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien
405​
5996​
3952​
ALPECIN-FENIX :wineglass:ASTANA – QAZAQSTAN :wineglass:
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
1452​
LUTSENKO Alexey
614​
DILLIER Silvan
92​
BATTISTELLA Samuele
499​
KRIEGER Alexander
16​
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
151​
GOGL Michael
94​
FELLINE Fabio
152​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
1180​
GRUZDEV Dmitriy
40​
PLANCKAERT Edward
57​
MOSCON Gianni
267​
SBARAGLI Kristian
209​
VELASCO Simone
292​
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
27​
ZEITS Andrey
209​
3127​
2224​
B&B HOTELS P/B KTM :wineglass:BAHRAIN VICTORIOUS :wineglass:
BONNAMOUR Franck
515​
CARUSO Damiano
809​
BARTHE Cyril
148​
GRADEK Kamil
33​
GOUGEARD Alexis
42​
HAIG Jack
782​
LECROQ Jérémy
51​
MOHORIC Matej
1591​
LEMOINE Cyril
30​
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
208​
MOZZATO Luca
465​
TEUNS Dylan
985​
ROLLAND Pierre
152​
TRATNIK Jan
366​
SCHÖNBERGER Sebastian
153​
WRIGHT Fred
188​
1556​
4962​
BORA - HANSGROHE :wineglass:COFIDIS :wineglass:
VLASOV Aleksandr
1301​
MARTIN Guillaume
943​
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
461​
COQUARD Bryan
377​
HALLER Marco
199​
GESCHKE Simon
336​
KÄMNA Lennard
380​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
640​
KONRAD Patrick
395​
LAFAY Victor
323​
POLITT Nils
634​
PEREZ Anthony
233​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
272​
THOMAS Benjamin
568​
VAN POPPEL Danny
930​
WALSCHEID Maximilian
493​
4572​
3913​
EF EDUCATION - EASYPOSTGROUPAMA - FDJ :wineglass:
BETTIOL Alberto
258​
GAUDU David
803​
BISSEGGER Stefan
299​
DUCHESNE Antoine
28​
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
436​
GENIETS Kévin
115​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
519​
KÜNG Stefan
1400​
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
445​
LE GAC Olivier
129​
PADUN Mark
249​
MADOUAS Valentin
679​
RUTSCH Jonas
120​
PINOT Thibaut
483​
URAN URAN Rigoberto
469​
STORER Michael
561​
2795​
4198​
INEOS GRENADIERSINTERMARCHÉ - WANTY - GOBERT :wineglass:
THOMAS Geraint
460​
KRISTOFF Alexander
1079​
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan
93​
BYSTRØM Sven Erik
140​
GANNA Filippo
735​
GOOSSENS Kobe
140​
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
266​
MEINTJES Louis
446​
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
996​
PASQUALON Andrea
409​
PIDCOCK Thomas
435​
PETIT Adrien
235​
ROWE Luke
40​
VAN DER HOORN Taco
405​
YATES Adam
981​
ZIMMERMANN Georg
356​
4006​
3210​
ISRAEL - PREMIER TECH :wineglass:JUMBO - VISMA :wineglass:
FUGLSANG Jakob
499​
ROGLIC Primoz
2793​
CLARKE Simon
370​
BENOOT Tiesj
532​
FROOME Chris
39​
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
328​
GOLDSTEIN Omer
116​
KUSS Sepp
505​
HOULE Hugo
256​
LAPORTE Christophe
771​
IMPEY Daryl
98​
VAN AERT Wout
2570​
NEILANDS Krists
153​
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
93​
WOODS Michael
946​
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
1602​
2477​
9194​
LOTTO SOUDAL :wineglass:MOVISTAR TEAM
EWAN Caleb
382​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
1067​
FRISON Frederik
42​
ERVITI OLLO Imanol
125​
GILBERT Philippe
330​
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
274​
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
152​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka
158​
KRON Andreas Lorentz
355​
JORGENSON Matteo
239​
VAN MOER Brent
70​
MÜHLBERGER Gregor
44​
VERMEERSCH Florian
264​
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes
174​
WELLENS Tim
795​
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
357​
2390​
2438​
QUICK-STEP - ALPHA VINYL :wineglass:TEAM ARKÉA - SAMSIC :wineglass:
JAKOBSEN Fabio
1110​
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
885​
ASGREEN Kasper
642​
BARGUIL Warren
928​
BAGIOLI Andrea
302​
BOUET Maxime
182​
CATTANEO Mattia
418​
CAPIOT Amaury
526​
DECLERCQ Tim
106​
HOFSTETTER Hugo
892​
HONORE Mikkel Frølich
603​
LOUVEL Matis
459​
LAMPAERT Yves
280​
OWSIAN Lukasz
180​
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael
178​
SWIFT Connor
477​
3639​
4529​
TEAM BIKEEXCHANGE - JAYCO :wineglass:TEAM DSM :wineglass:
MATTHEWS Michael
895​
BARDET Romain
720​
BAUER Jack
29​
DAINESE Alberto
519​
DURBRIDGE Luke
242​
DEGENKOLB John
170​
EDMONDSON Alexander
89​
EEKHOFF Nils
65​
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
519​
HAMILTON Chris
115​
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
10​
LEKNESSUND Andreas
304​
MEZGEC Luka
290​
PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
119​
SCHULTZ Nicholas
169​
TUSVELD Martijn
111​
2243​
2123​
TOTAL ENERGIES :wineglass:TREK - SEGAFREDO :wineglass:
SAGAN Peter
377​
PEDERSEN Mads
1053​
BODNAR Maciej
156​
CICCONE Giulio
451​
BURGAUDEAU Mathieu
343​
GALLOPIN Tony
145​
LATOUR Pierre
437​
KIRSCH Alex
93​
OSS Daniel
122​
MOLLEMA Bauke
875​
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian
288​
SIMMONS Quinn
418​
TURGIS Anthony
482​
SKUJINS Toms
236​
VUILLERMOZ Alexis
389​
STUYVEN Jasper
883​
2594​
4154​

Much better!
Also, Vermaerke instead of Pedersen at DSM. Juul-Jensen instead of Edmondson at BEX. Did you get your startlist from Cyclingfever, or something?
 
I copied what Search had at VeloRooms: my spreadsheet (linked above) is from Movistar: I didn't actually check that they are the same, but I'll be able to edit at lunchtime: we might even have the last three confirmed by then.

EDIT: Now updated with only EF (of course) to come.
 
Last edited:
Surprising stats from the price list:
If you were tempted to take the lazy route and just name all the riders from one team rather than making a proper selection (Hello, JVF), there are 9 teams that would put you overbudget. I think that has usually been an almost exclusive claim of Sky/Ineos in the past.

Jumbo Visma would put you over the budget twice, and then still by an amount that would be a very expensive pick. Crazy.

Considering the cheapest rider on each team, the three most expensive riders to have that distinction are on Bora (not surprising), Cofidis and Arkea.
 
Last edited:
This time, I decided to do things a little bit different.
Using the random number generator to create a long-list of 20 riders, then build a team of average-Joes based on that. Except, Dombrowski was actually in my long-list, but didn't make the cut, and I guess it's a bit mean to call Ewan an "average-Joe", but... he was well within my budget.
 
This time, I decided to do things a little bit different.
Using the random number generator to create a long-list of 20 riders, then build a team of average-Joes based on that. Except, Dombrowski was actually in my long-list, but didn't make the cut, and I guess it's a bit mean to call Ewan an "average-Joe", but... he was well within my budget.

Never change a "winning" formula!

I've tried using a random letter generator to pick my riders, but it didn't give me the letters I wanted.
 
32 teams so far (there were 39 last year), 91 different riders selected, 45 as unique picks and one clear most popular pick, one other on nearly half the teams, and another five on at least a quarter. Ten riders have been picked with a price of more than 1000 points, nine different cheap (<50 points) makeweights have been picked.

2 teams still need to get back to me about their overbudget selection/inclusion of Impey.

The deadline is 4pm Danish time tomorrow (well, today now), but if you want me to check it will have to be with me by about 7:30 in the morning (UK time)

Don't miss out!
 
  • Like
Reactions: postmanhat
My team

GROENEWEGEN Dylan​
BARDET Romain​
THOMAS Geraint​
KÄMNA Lennard​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu​
VAN MOER Bren​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian​
GENIETS Kévin​

Employing the rule that I exclude riders from my CQ team, so no Ewan, Pidcock, Ciccone, Pinot and others I might have picked otherwise.

Thought about going for Jakobsen, but am hoping Groenewegen confirms my belief he's quicker. Which freed up enough points to select MVDP who at least should be at the pointy end of more stages than most riders. Thomas, Kamna and Schachmann will probably be quite popular? Bardet is a heart pick, with the other two as fillers.
 

TRENDING THREADS