Vuelta a España 2022 Vuelta a España Second Rest Day Poll

[gunara]

don't they already have one in Mas, who is 27 and finished 2-5-2 in his last three Vueltas!?

His enormous superdom potential is never fully materialized, being in the wrong team.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Of course. I voted for Vin(cenz)o, Ilmaestro99 voted for Fausto, Taxus voted for Froome and RR voted for Gesink. There are a couple of dedicated threads for specially gifted people like us.

We can make a poll including only the mentioned cyclists. To see if it's really that simple.

 

[topcat]

We can make a poll including only the mentioned cyclists. To see if it's really that simple.

Well, Nibali is leading the wheelie classification at the moment. I don't think he's going to fade, he's always been strong in the 3rd week.

 

[IndianCyclist]

With his current lead, remco can afford to have a bad day and still win the race. The others have underperformed thinking they will get better as the race goes on but they have already lost so much time that better perf later in the race is of no use.

 

[Lequack]

Esteban Chavez is being overly critical of himself.

Esteban Chaves, total disappointment: "I want to return the money to the team"

Esteban Chaves, decepción total: “Quiero devolverle el dinero al equipo”

Por @FXavierVidela El ciclista colombiano llegó a la Vuelta a España como uno de los jefes de fila del EF Education-Easypost, siendo un opcionado al top 10 de la general. A pesar de que no corría g…

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[Tonton]

Same vote as last week for me: Vincenzo NIbali is ideally placed in the GC. He will solo in the Sierra Nevada and win this bike race. With a comfortable margin.

 

[Escarabajo]

I voted Lopez just to be consistent with my first vote.
To me Remco was always the favorite. However, I cannot stop thinking and I am almost certain that this form will not last the three weeks, therefore we will have some good racing ahead. The fact that he is so young, is the first GT that he is riding for the win, first time that he will experience the third week in full, etc, etc.
I am more excited about the Vuelta for the first time than the Giro.

 

[Escarabajo]

Esteban Chavez is being overly critical of himself.

Esteban Chaves, total disappointment: "I want to return the money to the team"

Esteban Chaves, decepción total: “Quiero devolverle el dinero al equipo”

Por @FXavierVidela El ciclista colombiano llegó a la Vuelta a España como uno de los jefes de fila del EF Education-Easypost, siendo un opcionado al top 10 de la general. A pesar de que no corría g…

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Poor guy. Feel sorry for him. His form comes and goes. I heard somewhere that Mono never actually leaves. It will go for some periods but it can come back anytime. Not sure if that is true. I guess it has haunted some good riders in the past. Hope he feels better in the next 2 weeks.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

With his current lead, remco can afford to have a bad day and still win the race. The others have underperformed thinking they will get better as the race goes on but they have already lost so much time that better perf later in the race is of no use.

I think with the lead he will have after the TT he can afford to have a ''bad day''. I don't think that's going to be the issue. But what he can't do is bonk. So i think he should start managing his efforts and let the others do the crazy efforts, it's the opposition that needs to attack now.

 

[Big Doopie]

I think with the lead he will have after the TT he can afford to have a ''bad day''. I don't think that's going to be the issue. But what he can't do is bonk. So i think he should start managing his efforts and let the others do the crazy efforts, it's the opposition that needs to attack now.

Agree with this. I hope he wins the ITT that he wants to win so badly and that will give them a stage. After that, he should take a page out of Vingo’s TDF tactics. And simply follow any attempts by his most immediate competition. Only if he feels that he doesn’t need to go to the red to drop them near the end, should he force it. He is a supremely exciting racer but at age 22 the sensible thing would be to play conservatively and make sure that he gets through the three weeks without blemish.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Entirely different 3rd weeks, though. Also, Yates wasted tons of energy. Evenepoel hasn't up until now (although he could have paced yesterday's effort a bit better)

You could be right, but the point I'm trying to make is that Remco has never finished a Grand Tour, so we have no idea how he'll go in the third week. I'm not saying he'll loose 40 mins like Yates but maybe something like Tom Dumoulin in 2015? We'll see, it'll be fun to watch what ever happens.
I voted for Remco btw....

 

[Big Doopie]

oy, not sure where to post this. what a rag of misinformation Velonews is. First, mis-translating interviews they are pilfering from other sources, and now this:

"By the time the top 20 are rolling down the ramp, the gaps will be at two minutes so Mas may be saved from the awkward moment of being caught by Roglič on the road."

1. Rog will be starting before Mas, so how would Mas be in danger of being caught by him anyway.
2. If Rog were starting after Mas, he might very well catch him despite the two minute gap -- did he not do so just last year?

oy.

 

[groogster]

oy, not sure where to post this. what a rag of misinformation Velonews is. First, mis-translating interviews they are pilfering from other sources, and now this:

"By the time the top 20 are rolling down the ramp, the gaps will be at two minutes so Mas may be saved from the awkward moment of being caught by Roglič on the road."

1. Rog will be starting before Mas, so how would Mas be in danger of being caught by him anyway.
2. If Rog were starting after Mas, he might very well catch him despite the two minute gap -- did he not do so just last year?

oy.

He might up being caught by Evenepoel so I guess he will have that awkward moment anyhow

 

[CyclistAbi]

Didn't read the article but likely they meant Evenepoel might catch Mas. And Roglič might catch Rodríguez.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

You could be right, but the point I'm trying to make is that Remco has never finished a Grand Tour, so we have no idea how he'll go in the third week. I'm not saying he'll loose 40 mins like Yates but maybe something like Tom Dumoulin in 2015? We'll see, it'll be fun to watch what ever happens.
I voted for Remco btw....

Sure. I hope he wins as I want to see him in the Tour asap, but I'm not 100% sold yet, either. If he shows some weakness in the Sierra Nevada stage (or before) it could get interesting.

If not, I don't know if the other teams will keep on trying.

 

[hfer07]

Quite difficult to predict this time around...
Remco is yet to be proved as a reliable GC rider, so it's all about if he manages NOT to blow up
Primoz appears to be sick or still carrying some issues from his Tour injury.
Mas is a no-go

so If the above comes to pass, then I'd be cheering for ALMEIDA
Yates can surprise
Hindley can surprise

 

[groogster]

Quite difficult to predict this time around...
Remco is yet to be proved as a reliable GC rider, so it's all about if he manages NOT to blow up
Primoz appears to be sick or still carrying some issues from his Tour injury.
Mas is a no-go

so If the above comes to pass, then I'd be cheering for ALMEIDA
Yates can surprise
Hindley can surprise

As for the Giro/Vuelta guys i don't see anyone who can really make a contest to the likes of Evenepoel Roglic and Mas atm

Almeida tends to go from less to more on the later stages but he seems far off in terms of form (yesterday even after starting pacing himself he loose places for guys like MAL, Valverde, Padun and Carthy, when in normal conditions he would finish closer of guys like Ayuso, Mas, Rodriguez and Yates)
Yates can absolutely destroy anyone on his day but likely to bonk 1 or 2 stages after and we still have the heat of Southern spain in the next stages
Hindley may put a show if he improves towards the end in Sierra Nevada stage but i don't think, same as Almeida, that he can be much better than he is atm

 

[postmanhat]

Remco is looking really good. But I I'm also getting flashbacks to Yates in the 2018 Giro....
We'll see

I know what you mean but Yates tended to be completely on or off back then. He's progressed in as much as he now DNFs, or gets better in the latter half of a GT. He could still be a factor and will undoubtably launch at least one stage-changing attack at the weekend. Same for Lopez who usually gets better as a race continues and the route should be coming to him. But it's difficult to judge as he hasn't finished a GT for two years.

I'm sticking with Evenpoel. Uncharted third week aside, he looks like he's prepared perfectly for this race so far, unlike nearly all of the opposition.

 

[Red Rick]

I too get flashbacks of the 2018 Giro.

Simon Yates has reenacted Pratonevoso like 5 times already

 

[Kaptain Kool]

Sure. I hope he wins as I want to see him in the Tour asap, but I'm not 100% sold yet, either. If he shows some weakness in the Sierra Nevada stage (or before) it could get interesting.

If not, I don't know if the other teams will keep on trying.

The last 2 weeks are designed horrible and the third week is even horribler. Sierra Nevada is the only stage were differences can occur.

 

[Escarabajo]

The last 2 weeks are designed horrible and the third week is even horribler. Sierra Nevada is the only stage were differences can occur.

Horribler!! LOL.
Third week is really awful. Now, having said that, if Remco's team is strong that week then everything will be decided on week 2. But If Remco's team is weak on week three then the design is fine because it encourages long distance attacks. There are no scary climbs that stops riders from attacking from far away. Those are the most scary stages for teams that have to defend the leader's jerseys.

 

[JosefK]

Quite difficult to predict this time around...
Remco is yet to be proved as a reliable GC rider, so it's all about if he manages NOT to blow up
Primoz appears to be sick or still carrying some issues from his Tour injury.
Mas is a no-go

so If the above comes to pass, then I'd be cheering for ALMEIDA
Yates can surprise
Hindley can surprise

I like the uncertainty and hope for possible craziness in stages after the TT, but it really does feel as if Remco has it in the bag.

 

[ashhutch1997]

I too get flashbacks of the 2018 Giro.

Simon Yates has reenacted Pratonevoso like 5 times already

Well to be fair I never mentioned what stage of the 2018 Giro it reminded me of lol

 

[Savant12]

If the other teams, make it a hard race then it's still open. If not, Remco will win comfortably, save a massive blow up. Kuss missing is huge for Roglic in Week 3.

 

[YavorD]

Should be Remco.
However, can anyone with bigger history knowledge (I'm looking mostly at you, @Libertine Seguros) remind me the last time when a pre-race favorite (or second top at least) was leading a GT with 2 minutes AFTER the first 3 MTF's and a TT without winning the race? Under normal circumstances, I mean.