Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia: Who is going to win? First rest day poll.

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Who will win the 2023 Giro d'Italia?

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Krzysztof_O

Krzysztof_O

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Pantani_lives said:
What I fear is that the rest of the Giro will now revolve around the Ineos train and sprints for bonus seconds. That's not the kind of cycling I like to see.
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No matter how many drones Ineos has in its train, Primoz will always stomp them at the end and get bonuses. So no, they have to come up with sth else.
 
Devil's Elbow

Devil's Elbow

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Küng also out.

Considering we still have two weeks to go, this could unfortunately end up in a Tour de Suisse 2022-esque farce - the field is depleting at a rate the race cannot sustain right now.
 
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Armchair cyclist said:
The protocols that forced that some time ago are no longer in place. If you think they 'forced' the decision by some sort of coersion or persuasion, you only have your supposition.
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Let’s bring this back to the real world. Individual companies have protocols—not just governments. My company policy is still — if you feel sick you take a home COVID test. In part because we have that tool (everyone has tons of test kits at home.
If we had an quick home test for the flu, the protocol might be to take the home test for the flu if you have fever and body aches.
I understand folks wondering why they didn’t see if he felt better after the rest day, etc. But there is nothing suspicious about taking COVID test when feeling sick. If a rider is sick and they think it might be a bacterial infection, they will check to see if their white blood cell count is elevated.
 
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Armchair Cyclist

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Sciatic said:
Let’s bring this back to the real world. Individual companies have protocols—not just governments. My company policy is still — if you feel sick you take a home COVID test. In part because we have that tool (everyone has tons of test kits at home.
If we had an quick home test for the flu, the protocol might be to take the home test for the flu if you have fever and body aches.
I understand folks wondering why they didn’t see if he felt better after the rest day, etc. But there is nothing suspicious about taking COVID test when feeling sick. If a rider is sick and they think it might be a bacterial infection, they will check to see if their white blood cell count is elevated.
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Not sure on what grounds you present this as my response not being in the real world, or this as in any way a response to my updating totp on UCI protocols.
 
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Sciatic

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Well, in part, it was in response to what several folks have said about “why are they still testing” but happened to respond to you directly because you mentioned “protocols are no longer in place.” That’s true for the UCI and for the Italian government protocols —but my point was organizations usually have their own protocols.
 
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Bystroem has confirmed to be one of those racing with covid. He had symptomps the past couple of stages, but says he is starting to feel better now. "If everyone with a positive test abandoned, there'd be hardly any riders left in Rome."

www.eurosport.no

Nordmannen sykler Giroen med korona: – Det har vært tungt

I motsetning til regjerenede verdensmester Remco Evenepoel velger Sven Erik Bystrøm å fortsette Giro d'Italia med positiv koronatest etter lette symptomer.
www.eurosport.no www.eurosport.no
 
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Only unknown is, how Vine does when riding a GT for GC.

Hasn‘t raced since February. I think it‘s possible he shows fireworks in weeks two and three, and wins this Giro. Very hard to predict.
 
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I'm 50/50 for Tao and Primoz. Rogla would be nice for all his bad luck in Gran Tours gone bye bye. Then again, maybe just a bit more I root for Tao, because I think his first Giro was no fluke, It could be nice underlining to bring it home again.
 
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Skijumper Roglic fan

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Once again had a look at the remaining stage profiles now…

I certainly don‘t want to destroy anyone‘s pleasure and joy about what is to come.

But IMHO, there‘s no way about calling weeks two and three „insane“, „terribly hard“, „extremely brutal“, or stuff like these.

Next Friday will be hard, ok, but the rest is usual Giro. Pedersen and Milan are going for Ciclamino overall here. Had they created a really hard Giro, then Pedersen and Milan wouldn‘t talk about Ciclamino, but about staying in the race/beating the time limit, every day.

By the way, I think the final GC winner will be from Ineos, or even UAE…
 
Carols

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topt said:
they didnt withdraw him, he was forced to withdraw
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Of course he should withdraw, and it's written on CN as his decision. It's all over the peloton now, why keep spreading in around? It killed 6 million people so far and people die every day from it. It is definitely the correct decision by team and him to withdraw.
 
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Sciatic said:
Let’s bring this back to the real world. Individual companies have protocols—not just governments.
I understand folks wondering why they didn’t see if he felt better after the rest day, etc. But there is nothing suspicious about taking COVID test when feeling sick. If a rider is sick and they think it might be a bacterial infection, they will check to see if their white blood cell count is elevated.
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The entire team took the test as a prep for the race test required on the rest day, He didn't take it because he felt sick.
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"Soudal-QuickStep said all the team’s riders and staff in Italy were tested for COVID-19 on Sunday as part of a pre-rest day routine. Evenepoel is the only part of the Soudal-QuickStep Giro expedition to have tested positive."
 
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Carols said:
The entire team took the test as a prep for the race test required on the rest day, He didn't take it because he felt sick.
EDIT: Race didn't require
"Soudal-QuickStep said all the team’s riders and staff in Italy were tested for COVID-19 on Sunday as part of a pre-rest day routine. Evenepoel is the only part of the Soudal-QuickStep Giro expedition to have tested positive."
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Ok, good to know, hadn’t seen that before.
 
Armchair Cyclist

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The poll started a few hours before the announcement about Evenepoel: did anyone catch what the firures were at, or very near to, that time? It would be interesting to see the distribution between the others before and since, and what the level of confidence in Evenepoel had been between the ITT and the announcement
 
Netserk

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Armchair cyclist said:
The poll started a few hours before the announcement about Evenepoel: did anyone catch what the firures were at, or very near to, that time? It would be interesting to see the distribution between the others before and since, and what the level of confidence in Evenepoel had been between the ITT and the announcement
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I think he was at 15-20 %.
 
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Elos Anjos

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Armchair cyclist said:
The poll started a few hours before the announcement about Evenepoel: did anyone catch what the firures were at, or very near to, that time? It would be interesting to see the distribution between the others before and since, and what the level of confidence in Evenepoel had been between the ITT and the announcement
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Yes. Roglic and Tao were already going up (Roglic was the favourite) and Remco was more or less paired with Thomas. That's what I remember. I cannot give you numbers.
 
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