Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia: Who is going to win? Pre-race poll.

[Nick2413]

I disagree. I loved that Giro. Of course the clash of the titans at the Tour was better, but I enjoyed the Giro. Can't understand how people dismiss a head-to-head race until the last day with a big upset. Of course there were better GTS like the Giro 2018 but I really enjoy races like the Tour 2019 or the Giro 2019 where the level isn't as high but there are a handful of contenders and great storylines throughout the race. If you watch at the TV what different does it makes if the cyclist push 6.5 w/kg or 6.2 w/kg? If Remco or Roglic destroys the field it's boring and I forget about it like with all the really boring Froome or Armstrong wins. But moments like Pinot having to give up in the form of his life, Alaphilippe fighting in yellow, Hindley breaking Carapaz on Marmolada or yes Pogacar's upset of Roglic at PdBF are why I watch cycling.It could be that we have three weeks of racing and there will be never a real race this year. Remco destroying the field in the TTs and the first mountain stage and from that moment on you can hope that there's a break fighting for the stage wins because if not you will see what godawful relly means.

I know it can be different for other people and it's not that I dislike the people dominating the sport, but I can't wrap my head around it how people can enjoy something like L-B-L e.g. where Remco is doing a training ride and puts 2 minutes into the field. For me thats basically the point where I think hard about watching cycling on a sunday when there is no thrill in watching the race and the rest of the field/teams gets degraded to a joke. The race would have been much more enjoyable with Remco not being there (after Pogi crashed of course) and thats why I fear the Giro will be a bummer because I don't see Roglic being close to that Remco level.

I admittedly took the day off from cycling once I heard about the crash. There’s just nobody who can remotely challenge any of the top tier guys right now. These battles of the gods are great when they go down the way the first 3 monuments went, but not realistic to expect when so few are at that level.

 

[SafeBet]

I disagree. I loved that Giro. Of course the clash of the titans at the Tour was better, but I enjoyed the Giro. Can't understand how people dismiss a head-to-head race until the last day with a big upset. Of course there were better GTS like the Giro 2018 but I really enjoy races like the Tour 2019 or the Giro 2019 where the level isn't as high but there are a handful of contenders and great storylines throughout the race. If you watch at the TV what different does it makes if the cyclist push 6.5 w/kg or 6.2 w/kg? If Remco or Roglic destroys the field it's boring and I forget about it like with all the really boring Froome or Armstrong wins. But moments like Pinot having to give up in the form of his life, Alaphilippe fighting in yellow, Hindley breaking Carapaz on Marmolada or yes Pogacar's upset of Roglic at PdBF are why I watch cycling.It could be that we have three weeks of racing and there will be never a real race this year. Remco destroying the field in the TTs and the first mountain stage and from that moment on you can hope that there's a break fighting for the stage wins because if not you will see what godawful relly means.

The problem at last year's Giro was not the level. Nobody truly cares how many watts the riders are pushing if the racing is entertaining.
But the racing at last year's Giro was dreadful. The only great stage was the Torino one. Nothing remotely relevant for GC then happened until the very last climb of the race.
Suspense is an important part of the entertainment provided by a race, but it can't be the only one.

 

[staubsauger]

Felix Gall rode Rund um Steinfurt last Saturday ahead of the upcoming Giro d'Italia. Steinfurt is a small city located 32 kilometres from Münster & 36 kilometres from Enschede in the Netherlands!

That's just extremely random.

 

[Rob5091]

Is this the year we see Ganna become a climbing domestique?

 

[ppanther92]

Vine is flying in his training campo on sierra nevada. Check is strava.

What sort of injury did he have for not racing since Feb?

 

[Kovo]

Logic says Roglič or Evenepoel. Heart says Pogačar.

 

[dercuforever]

Vine is flying in his training campo on sierra nevada. Check is strava.

Sadly I use strava free only. In the vuelta he was the second best climber in the first 10 days. I guess he can be even better for his second GT.

 

[Rob5091]

What sort of injury did he have for not racing since Feb?

Vine has had knee problems, which is why he left the UAE tour early. More at https://www.cyclingnews.com/feature...on-course-for-giro-ditalia-after-knee-injury/

 

[Andy schleck]

What sort of injury did he have for not racing since Feb?

Knee injury.

 

[RedheadDane]

Logic says Roglič or Evenepoel. Heart says Pogačar.

Pretty sure Logic would say Evenepoel.
And your heart is gonna be deeply disappointed; don't think Pogacar was ever planning to ride, and now he's got a fracture wrist.

 

[JosefK]

Pretty sure Logic would say Evenepoel.
And your heart is gonna be deeply disappointed; don't think Pogacar was ever planning to ride, and now he's got a fracture wrist.

 

[ppanther92]

Heart says Rog. Head says Remco.

Head says Roglic. Heart says nothing.

 

[Netserk]

Logic would say Evenepoel.

Intelligence would say Rogla.

 

[ice&fire]

Intelligence would say Rogla.

Is Intelligence a new forum member?

 

[Escarabajo]

Is Intelligence a new forum member?

Well everyone is quoting Logic as well, so I get confused. One member said that Logic says Roglic, but I know He would never say that.

 

[Cookster15]

I hope for Roglic. But I fear Remco.

 

[jmdirt]

Real question: why are many stating that RE is better this year?

 

[Netserk]

Is Intelligence a new forum member?

I speak on his behalf.

 

[Bonimenier]

Real question: why are many stating that RE is better this year?

He was pretty terrible last year so one would assume he'll be better this year.

 

[jimmy_8888888]

Off-topic a bit but when route review will come? btw, with Giro, weather can play big parts in outcome of the race and we dont know whether Remcoboy can really race in cold day which almost certain in Giro.

 

[Berniece]

Off-topic a bit but when route review will come? btw, with Giro, weather can play big parts in outcome of the race and we dont know whether Remcoboy can really race in cold day which almost certain in Giro.

How cold are we talking? He just won liege in the rain

 

[tobydawq]

Intelligence would say Rogla.

Not really. Is it now that I should ask you whether I in the future will have to expect that you're a good poster in most aspects but when it comes to Evenepoel, logic flies out the window and there is a heavy bias in your posts against him (including a mocking nickname)? Or how does that work?

 

[tobydawq]

Well everyone is quoting Logic as well, so I get confused. One member said that Logic says Roglic, but I know He would never say that.

Well, Roglic does have all the letters of logic in his name.

 

[RedheadDane]

logic flies out the window

Now, that gave me an interesting mental image.

 

[staubsauger]

Interesting that Israel actually sends Matthew Riccitello to the race!