2023 Tour de France route rumors

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I do think the Bourg-en-Bresse stage is happening and that it will be Stage 18. I say that because it's a location I'd like to see a stage so I've been following the hotels very closely. Three days ago, there were still plenty of rooms available. Now? Only a few hotels have any rooms. That can't just be those of us following the rumors, the stage wouldn't be that popular. That must be the Tour organization and the teams. It also goes to show how hard it is to find a room in some of these places. That's a large enough city with more than a few hotels and 3 days after the rumors break, the whole town is almost completely sold out!
 
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Nah I don't like MTTs replacing queen stages.

O wait for some reason the clibms looked bigger than they are.
The climbs are overall of similar difficulty to that of the 2009 Giro ITT, and it's not as climbing-dense as the 2013 Tour ITT.
 
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I fear, that the tour wants to motivate the world champion to ride the tour. In my opinion, Remco was the best GC-ITT-Rider, and I assume that he might be also on of the best GC-MTT-Rider. (Giro might have 3 very different type TTs)
 
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I fear, that the tour wants to motivate the world champion to ride the tour. In my opinion, Remco was the best GC-ITT-Rider, and I assume that he might be also on of the best GC-MTT-Rider. (Giro might have 3 very different type TTs)

If that's the case, then why not have one 30-50k ITT in the first half of the race and then one MTT towards the end. The rumor I hear is that the MTT would be the only individual time trial. Surely one MTT isn't an attempt to lure Remco. It's wild how much we still don't know about this route.
 
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You don't know if vingegaard could be more fast than pogacar in a MTT.

Obviously we don't know, maybe. But attacking on every opportunity didn't pay off this year and Pog proved he's able to deliver ET performances on selected days (like PDBF or Le Grand Bornand).
 
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So now the rumors is that Stage 18 is the Bird Park to Bourg-en-Bresse which is only 29 K. So is that an ITT or are they planning on turning that into a medium mountain stage. That stage could either be a super disappointing unnecessary sprint stage late in the Tour (isn't there always one) or a very feisty, difficult to manage hilly/medium mountain stage. In a normal year that finishes in one of the giant mountain ranges, the Tour could afford for it to be a late sprint, this year, I think they need for it to be hilly or mountainous .
 
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Somebody help my memory out, what's the latest the Tour has ever finished outside of France? There's a rumor of a Swiss or German finish for stage 19. That can't be true, right?
 
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Somebody help my memory out, what's the latest the Tour has ever finished outside of France? There's a rumor of a Swiss or German finish for stage 19. That can't be true, right?
As a stage finish? That would be Denmark this year?

If you mean a mountain stage then Andorra 2021.
 
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As a stage finish? That would be Denmark this year?

If you mean a mountain stage then Andorra 2021.

Sorry for my lack of clarity, yes, I meant, what's the latest in the race stage wise did the Tour finish outside of France. Stage 15 in 21 was pretty late in the race.
 
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Somebody help my memory out, what's the latest the Tour has ever finished outside of France? There's a rumor of a Swiss or German finish for stage 19. That can't be true, right?
The 2011 Tour had the finish of stage 17 and the start of stage 18 in Pinerolo, there hasn't been a later visit abroad since, although the 2016 Tour also had stage 17 finish abroad (Finhaut-Émosson).

Before that, the 2001 Tour - finish of stage 18 and start of stage 19 in Freiburg, with stage 17 finishing and stage 18 starting in Lausanne to boot. The 1998 and 1984 editions match that, pretty sure those three tie for the record, which would therefore be broken by stage 19 finishing abroad.

Edit: and it looks like the 1968 Tour passed through Geneva mid-stage on the final Friday as well

Edit 2: Turns out the 1948 edition had its penultimate stage from Liege to Roubaix, not relevant for the present of course but it does mean stage 19 finishing abroad would not be entirely unprecedented.
 
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Finhaut Emosson, I remember being so incredibly hyped for those double climbs... its like Colombiere + Romme, but better on paper!
 
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