2023 Tour de France route rumors

[tonymikejoe]

One 22 km ITT. Pathetic.

If the French had a time-trial monster there would be 222 km of TT.
"We are excited to announce a return to the traditions of the Tour with a lengthening of the true individual tests the French roads can offer as we seek the best champion who can conquer both the mountains and the flats."

 

[gregrowlerson]

What an absolute shitshow. But hey, that`s what new school snow flake fans want.
See you in 2024. Maybe.

Best day of the year confirmed.

 

[Mayomaniac]

No wonder younger and younger riders are able to ride for the gc when certain u23 stage races feature harder and longer mountain stages than the Tour.
I give it a rating of FFF for French fairy fest.

 

[Earns1985]

Hmm, don´t like that the last climb of the stage always seems to be the hardest..

 

[tobydawq]

And they're not showing Valverde beating Armstrong on Courchevel...

 

[Mayomaniac]

If the French had a time-trial monster there would be 222 km of TT.
"We are excited to announce a return to the traditions of the Tour with a lengthening of the true individual tests the French roads can offer as we seek the best champion who can conquer both the mountains and the flats."

This, imagine if they had Wout or Ganna, 2 long ITTs, one 60kms TTT and the return of classic, long tempogrinder climbs.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Did you watch this year's race? Or did you just think it would be bad because of the route which didn't live up to your criteria?

Ok , so if Fifa decides to play a game of basketball instead of football for the world cup final and this game of basketball turns out to be decent, you would celebrate that as well, I guess.

 

[tobydawq]

Ok , so if Fifa decides to play a game of basketball instead of football for the world cup final and this game of basketball turns out to be decent, you would celebrate that as well, I guess.

Lol, what...

As always, I can't stand being on the forum this day of the year. See you tomorrow.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Ok , so if Fifa decides to play a game of basketball instead of football for the world cup final and this game of basketball turns out to be decent, you would celebrate that as well, I guess.

Not even a good comparison, the riders always make the race.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Couldn't they have swapped the Mont Blanc stage and the Morzine stage?
I wouldn't expect anyone to take a trip to Disneylandis, but it would still be a way better stage if it came before the final rest day...

 

[spalco]

Lol, what...

As always, I can't stand being on the forum this day of the year. See you tomorrow.

I mean, I agree that the whining about the Tour route is annoying - has there ever been a route the forum has liked? - but 22km TT is more ridiculous than a route without a MTF would be imo.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Ok , so if Fifa decides to play a game of basketball instead of football for the world cup final and this game of basketball turns out to be decent, you would celebrate that as well, I guess.

Hey it could be even worse, just look at the FIS...
Anyway, at least the next Giro has a proper route for a modern GT.

 

[Earns1985]

8 flat stages? Wow..

 

[Peyroteo94]

Waiting for the rate thread just to give this race's profile a solid 3

 

[OlavEH]

This, imagine if they had Wout or Ganna, 2 long ITTs, one 60kms TTT and the return of classic, long tempogrinder climbs.

I know a couple of guys that be overjoyed then......

Btw, what is the "classic, long tempogrinder climbs"? I think they are mostly using the same climbs they've always did in the Tour. Maybe the MTFs to the ski resorts in the Tarentaise valley is less frequently used, but else?

 

[gregrowlerson]

Ok , so if Fifa decides to play a game of basketball instead of football for the world cup final and this game of basketball turns out to be decent, you would celebrate that as well, I guess.

Hands of Gods.

 

[KZD]

It seems that there is some rule that every year, a GT needs to have a route with a stupid amount of TT km's and this year is the Tour. You can tell me about the best GC riders being all good time trialists but that's not a good argument because a GT winner should be very competent in TTs and with this route at least in theory the winner could be a terrible time-trialist that happens to be with great climbing legs.

And its not even the lack of TTs that annoy me, there is no proper queen stage, 8 flat stages is just too much and even the hilly stages often have the hills too far from the finish to have a big impact. A lot of the stages should also be longer than what they are.

 

[Mayomaniac]

The start in Euskadi is nice, having Puy de Dome back is good and the final Mountain stage looks really good.
The rest? Not so much...

 

[OlavEH]

Ok , so if Fifa decides to play a game of basketball instead of football for the world cup final and this game of basketball turns out to be decent, you would celebrate that as well, I guess.

Yep, the analogy is 100 % accurate.......

Even if they were doing next Tour as a combo of road racing, track racing, MTB and CX, your analogy would still be off mark.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Best day of the year confirmed.

If that same post was made by Gigs, it would be best GT of the decade confirmed.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I‘m struggling to endure the lack of endurance

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

8 flat stages? Wow..

stages 18, 19 and 21 all flat ...not sure why they thought this was a good idea.

 

[DNP-Old]

2 stages exceeding 200k and those are 209 and 201 respectively. That's freaking ***.

 

[Mayomaniac]

8 flat stages? Wow..

Incoming Kittel comeback?

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Start is good, Pyrenees are meh (but expected after Basque start), nice to have Puy de Dome but otherwise everything between Pyrenees and Jura is a letdown.
I really do like the setting from stage 13-17, not a big fan of the Colombier stage but at least its right the first one and comes before Joux Plane, stage 15 looks promising, ITT after the rest day but before Loze is nice as well.
Vosgues final stage would've been better with an additional hard ascent of Grand Ballon but otherwise its still fine.
Lack of ITT kilometers in general is a massive joke, especially as 7 of the 22km are climbing so you have essentially 15km in total of flat ITT. Laughable.