2023 Tour de France route rumors

[Mayomaniac]

The flat starts have proved to be very exciting as well tbh. As long as you mix it up, its all good

Yeah, I just have a problem with every mountain stage having a flat start...

 

[sir fly]

Yeah, I just have a problem with every mountain stage having a flat start...

More fun with rouleurs in the break.

 

[Big Doopie]

Prologue: 7.8 km
Stage 2: 49 km (TTT)
Stage 5: 73 km (flat/rolling TT)
Stage 15: 39 km (MTT)
Stage 21: 23.5 km (flat TT)

Why mess with a proven formula?

 

[gavia88]

Prologue: 7.8 km
Stage 2: 49 km (TTT)
Stage 5: 73 km (flat/rolling TT)
Stage 15: 39 km (MTT)
Stage 21: 23.5 km (flat TT)

Why err from a proven recipe?

89?

 

[ice&fire]

We also need the defending winner to get lost and start late

 

[Offline]

So it looks like TTT and 2 ITTs? Early Pyrenees and a final mountain stage in the Vogues?

I am not gettin many hopes up.

Where do you see there will be a TTT? Can't find that rumor

 

[Finn84]

Prologue: 7.8 km
Stage 2: 49 km (TTT)
Stage 5: 73 km (flat/rolling TT)
Stage 15: 39 km (MTT)
Stage 21: 23.5 km (flat TT)

Why mess with a proven formula?

That's actually one stage more (prologue) than current rules state.

 

[Big Doopie]

That's actually one stage more (prologue) than current rules state.

lol.

this is 1989. The greatest Tdf ever.

 

[Escarabajo]

Maybe the go for a stage like this one? Taken from a race design.

Usually the typical stage for the Tour is Galibier, Madeleine and La Plagne. They should do the same but instead of La Plagne they should add La Loze. How long would that be? I know it would be the queen stage!

 

[Ricco']

Usually the typical stage for the Tour is Galibier, Madeleine and La Plagne. They should do the same but instead of La Plagne they should add La Loze. How long would that be? I know it would be the queen stage!

Tracing by Google Maps, something like Bourg d'Oisans > Galibier > Madeleine > Loze > Courchevel Altiport would be around 195 km.

 

[Green Jersey Mike]

Usually the typical stage for the Tour is Galibier, Madeleine and La Plagne. They should do the same but instead of La Plagne they should add La Loze. How long would that be? I know it would be the queen stage!

It would be nice to see them go back to La Plagne one of these days. It has been 20 years! Instead of adding the Galibier they should use the Col du Glandon which would make the mountains more tightly packed.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Tracing by Google Maps, something like Bourg d'Oisans > Galibier > Madeleine > Loze > Courchevel Altiport would be around 195 km.

Would be a fantastic stage. Just don't have it be the final mountain stage.

 

[Green Jersey Mike]

I would like to see a stage from Albertville > Cormet de Roseland > Col de l'Iseran > Col du Mont Cenis > Col du Finestre > Sestriere. The stage would be roughly 220km and somewhat akin to the epic mountain day from 1992 when Claudio Chiappucci won. Of course they did not use the Col du Finestre but it was a long unending mountain day that saw Indurain ride aggressively near the end and proving that he was actually a good climber.

 

[houtdffan]

I would like to see a stage from Albertville > Cormet de Roseland > Col de l'Iseran > Col du Mont Cenis > Col du Finestre > Sestriere. The stage would be roughly 220km and somewhat akin to the epic mountain day from 1992 when Claudio Chiappucci won. Of course they did not use the Col du Finestre but it was a long unending mountain day that saw Indurain ride aggressively near the end and proving that he was actually a good climber.

That would be a good stage. However, St Jeanen Maurienne to Sestrieres may be better.

Mollard
Galiber (no points for the Telegraph)
Montvergenie
Finestre
Sestrieres

 

[OlavEH]

I would like to see a stage from Albertville > Cormet de Roseland > Col de l'Iseran > Col du Mont Cenis > Col du Finestre > Sestriere. The stage would be roughly 220km and somewhat akin to the epic mountain day from 1992 when Claudio Chiappucci won. Of course they did not use the Col du Finestre but it was a long unending mountain day that saw Indurain ride aggressively near the end and proving that he was actually a good climber.

Would be insane, but is pretty far from ever happening. If ASO decides to use Finestre followed by Sestriere as a MTF, it's more likely that they will start somewhere in the Maurinne valley and do only Mont Cenis before Finestre.

And personally, I prefer they stay in France, leave Finestre to the Giro and do some big stages/new combos in France. Like Iseran - Galibier - Granon/Les Deux Alpes. Or this new Tougnete-pass before Col de la Loze and finish at a ski station in Vanoise or the vicinity.

 

[Red Rick]

Would be insane, but is pretty far from ever happening. If ASO decides to use Finestre followed by Sestriere as a MTF, it's more likely that they will start somewhere in the Maurinne valley and do only Mont Cenis before Finestre.

And personally, I prefer they stay in France, leave Finestre to the Giro and do some big stages/new combos in France. Like Iseran - Galibier - Granon/Les Deux Alpes. Or this new Tougnete-pass before Col de la Loze and finish at a ski station in Vanoise or the vicinity.

I see no problem with using Finestre if you're in the neigbhourhood. So if they start a stage in Italy and finish in Briancon for example, I would love to get Finestre>Sestriere>Montegenevre.

I doubt we'll ever see a passage through Italy specifically for Finestre in a stage that starts and finishes in France

 

[Mayomaniac]

Sestriere was the 2nd ever MTF in the Tour (1952, with the one 2 days earlier, before the rest day, on Alpe d'Huez being the first ever), the first one outside of France and the first over 2,000m, so it should be a big deal for the Tour and using Finestre to improve it would only be a logical step.
That said, Val d'Isere - Sestriere would probably the hardest possible Sestriere stage that we could actually see ASO going for...

 

[pman]

I saw Velowire report the stage 12 finish in Villars-les-Dombes . I didn't see any mention of it being an ITT. Any more news on that?

 

[ashhutch1997]

Apparently there will be a Summit finish up the Grand Colombier on stage 13. This will be followed by a stage to Morzine before the Col de la Loze on stage 15.
If people are saying that the final week will be in the Voges, this is going to be a pretty odd looking route, as it would make more sense to swap the Col de la Loze and Morzinr stages around....

 

[Andy schleck]

Apparently there will be a Summit finish up the Grand Colombier on stage 13. This will be followed by a stage to Morzine before the Col de la Loze on stage 15.
If people are saying that the final week will be in the Voges, this is going to be a pretty odd looking route, as it would make more sense to swap the Col de la Loze and Morzinr stages around....

I think there's also in the last week a stage in the alps. The stage after the last rest day, it will be courchevel-annecy. So probably is going to be a mountain stage.

 

[Red Rick]

Boy we copy pasting abou 60% of 2020 now?

 

[Fyr3]

Boy we copy pasting abou 60% of 2020 now?

It's a shame they ruled out pdbf, could have had another TT

 

[Izzyeviel]

lol.

this is 1989. The greatest Tdf ever.

That was the formula for the most entertaining tour? Can't imagine why they'd change it...

 

[ashhutch1997]

Boy we copy pasting abou 60% of 2020 now?

I don't see why not, the Grand Colombier/ Col de la Loze stages in 2020 were so exciting and produced great racing........for about 2km combined

 

[Andy schleck]

And what about pyrénées? I heard something about plateau beille, but nothing more.