Tour de France 2023 Tour de France, Stage 1: Bilbao - Bilbao, 182 km (Spain, Saturday, July 1)

[Devil's Elbow]

Bardet + 43
Bernal + 43
Pidcock + 43
Gall + 43
Johannesen + 43
Haig + 43
O'Connor + 43
Jorgensen + 2.48
Felipe Martinez + 3.23
Chaves + 5.03
Træen + 5.09
Uran + 5.46
Lutsenko + too much on a stage like this
Carapaz + at least 15 minutes..
Mas DNF

Did I forgot anything?

Ciccone, Bilbao and Buchmann +0:43

 

[Miha81]

He just crossed the line.

Yeah. I saw.

 

[HelloDolly]

UAE can have Yates and Pog do onto Jumbo&Vinge what they did to Pog last year ...maybe in the Voges

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

He needs at least 3 minutes to be a danger.

Agree but I'm sure Jumbo will get nervous way earlier.

 

[RobertCrawley]

WVA just said he wanted to win the stage but not good enough

Trouble for Jumbo-Vingo?

 

[YavorD]

I was really baffled by Vingegaard. Contribute with Pogacar, he beats you in the sprint and you lose 4 seconds + you win time on the other contenders

If you don't and you have a group of 10 at the finish, there's a very big chance of Pogacar winning the sprint without you getting any bonus, so Pog get 10 seconds.

The scenario at it happened, Vingegaard still lost 4 seconds but didn't gain any time on others and lost a few seconds to the twins.
Now, it's highly unlikely that these seconds will be decisive, but you never know..

 

[JosefK]

Trouble for Jumbo-Vingo?

No one on Jumbo crashed, so it's probably a good day by TDF standards.

 

[Netserk]

Bardet + 43
Bernal + 43
Pidcock + 43
Gall + 43
Johannesen + 43
Haig + 43
O'Connor + 43
Jorgensen + 2.48
Felipe Martinez + 3.23
Chaves + 5.03
Træen + 5.09
Uran + 5.46
Lutsenko + too much on a stage like this
Carapaz + at least 15 minutes..
Mas DNF

Did I forgot anything?

What on Earth happened to O'Connor?!

 

[Poursuivant]

Thank god for ITV4

Waaayyyy too many adverts though

 

[RobertCrawley]

I was really baffled by Vingegaard. Contribute with Pogacar, he beats you in the sprint and you lose 4 seconds + you win time on the other contenders

If you don't and you have a group of 10 at the finish, there's a very big chance of Pogacar winning the sprint without you getting any bonus, so Pog get 10 seconds.

The scenario at it happened, Vingegaard still lost 4 seconds but didn't gain any time on others and lost a few seconds to the twins.
Now, it's highly unlikely that these seconds will be decisive, but you never know..

I don't think Vingo contributed to Pog. He just stayed on his wheel.

And he'll continue to do that until it's tall, steep, and hot.

 

[StryderHells]

What on Earth happened to O'Connor?!

Not good on short sharp climbs

 

[Valv.Piti]

I was really baffled by Vingegaard. Contribute with Pogacar, he beats you in the sprint and you lose 4 seconds + you win time on the other contenders

If you don't and you have a group of 10 at the finish, there's a very big chance of Pogacar winning the sprint without you getting any bonus, so Pog get 10 seconds.

The scenario at it happened, Vingegaard still lost 4 seconds but didn't gain any time on others and lost a few seconds to the twins.
Now, it's highly unlikely that these seconds will be decisive, but you never know..

Vingegaard is known is a pretty defensive rider in these scenarios, I think its in his nature to just follow on terrain like this. But your analysis makes a lot of sense, but Jumbo's plan was all along Van Aert which in hindsight was a mistake ofc.

 

[Valv.Piti]

What on Earth happened to O'Connor?!

I think he was close to 1 minute down on Pogacar on the top. Really, really bad, and he should feel pretty lucky.

 

[johnymax]

Some things never change...Pogi in white

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I was really baffled by Vingegaard. Contribute with Pogacar, he beats you in the sprint and you lose 4 seconds + you win time on the other contenders

If you don't and you have a group of 10 at the finish, there's a very big chance of Pogacar winning the sprint without you getting any bonus, so Pog get 10 seconds.

The scenario at it happened, Vingegaard still lost 4 seconds but didn't gain any time on others and lost a few seconds to the twins.
Now, it's highly unlikely that these seconds will be decisive, but you never know..

I don't think Vingegaard is programmed to do a pull when he's not on a climb and he's in the same group as Pogacar. Can't remember him ever doing so. The Granon stage is an anomaly in his racing style in the way the Finestre stage was for Froome. Really, it's rather annoying that not only half of the big 6 is on one team, but it's also clearly the half that races much more conservatively.

 

[DNP-Old]

Heard on a Sporza interview: smart of Jakobsen to get dropped, saves energy.

 

[The Clogger]

I was really baffled by Vingegaard. Contribute with Pogacar, he beats you in the sprint and you lose 4 seconds + you win time on the other contenders

If you don't and you have a group of 10 at the finish, there's a very big chance of Pogacar winning the sprint without you getting any bonus, so Pog get 10 seconds.

The scenario at it happened, Vingegaard still lost 4 seconds but didn't gain any time on others and lost a few seconds to the twins.
Now, it's highly unlikely that these seconds will be decisive, but you never know..

Why would he gift Pogacar the stage and risk losing 12 bonus seconds? Vingegaard isn't worried about the other gc contenders, why would he

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Chapeau the Yates! but what were Bjerg and Grossschartner up to? Otherwise Viktor Lafay showed good form and Pinot 4th?!
Shame for Mas and Carapaz - Jorgenson to be stage hunting now, I guess.
Onto stage 2 which looks like it could be deja vu all over again.

I missed most of the stage. What happened to Mas and Carapaz? I see Mas is DNF but no sign of Carapaz in results.

 

[Oldermanish]

No one on Jumbo crashed, so it's probably a good day by TDF standards.

Watching the pursuit with WvA sitting on it was clear they were happy with UAE taking the responsibility to defend the jersey. Not a bad move when it wasn't certain that they could have won the stage.

 

[Red Rick]

Most worrying moment for Vingegaard today was when Kelderman took the spot in front of Jonas in the Jumbo train

 

[SHAD0W93]

Some things never change...Pogi in white

Till next year.

 

[Netserk]

Not good on short sharp climbs

Yet he dropped Hindley on La Bastille.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingegaard fears Pogacar in these type of stages. But I don't like to see Pogacar racing like this. He is too agressive. Just put your bike glued to Vingegaard's bike and follow him.

 

[JosefK]

I missed most of the stage. What happened to Mas and Carapaz? I see Mas is DNF but no sign of Carapaz in results.

Carapaz crashed with Mas. Richard's knees looked banged up pretty badly, unfortunately. Carapaz finished way down on time.

 

[Salvarani]

What on Earth happened to O'Connor?!

He is a bit of a "slow and steady" type of rider, aint he?

Probably prone to lose some seconds here and there on stages like this but handles the attrition quite well and can go the distance in the end of the race.