2024 Vuelta CQ Game

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 24, 2024

Stage 8 Reeling in process to Cazorla

Green points
Normal service being resumed

ROGLIC Primoz	70 pts	15 teams
MAS NICOLAU Enric	40	13
LANDA MEANA Mikel	25	7
TIBERI Antonio	15	2
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	10	2
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	7	2
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso	5	0
DUNBAR Edward	3	7
VAN EETVELT Lennert	2	5
HAIG Jack	1	3

Of the pairings of expensive picks, Roglic + Mas was by far the most popular: adding Dunbar or Tiberi was a good top-up.

1	EvansIsTheBest	125
2	Sam6	113
2	Triley36	113
4	Armchair_Cyclist	110
4	Madrazo	110
4	Vladimir	110
7	Kazistuta	98
8	Rufs	75
9	AmisVelo	72
10	JumboVismaFan	71
11	DJSprtsch	70
11	DJW	70
11	Hfgon1	70
11	Laurens147	70
11	Nevs	70
11	Salvarani	70
17	Anderis	48
18	BluesInTheBottle	43
19	Titan31	42
20	Ingsve	41
21	DevilsElbow	40
21	SlowClimber	40
23	Del1962	28
24	Search	27
25	Bminchow	25
25	Googolplex	25
25	QueenStagiaire	25
28	Leadbelly	17
29	Scrooll07	10
29	ZigZagWanderer	10
31	Peixotini	3
32	ArchieBoy	2
33	Laarsland	0
33	LosBrolin	0
33	RedheadDane	0
33	SamuCuenca	0
	Collective_Wisdom	110

Standings
While Roglstomps remain a thing, it will be difficult for DJW to be hauled in on MTF finishes.

1	DJW	310	0
2	EvansIsTheBest	221	14
3	Vladimir	216	4
4	Triley36	210	10
5	Madrazo	208	8
5	Sam6	208	12
7	Armchair_Cyclist	207	7
8	Titan31	201	-6
9	Rufs	200	-4
10	Laurens147	183	-4

Red points
A collective ouch is heard from the teams that picked Almeida. Roglic moved up in the green and polka classifications, but not (yet) in GC, which is how Landa got a bigger points boost than him today. Although 1st in GC gives 125 points more than second, and dspite O'Connor having one more day of red jersey bonus, Roglic outscores O'Connor by 3.

LANDA MEANA Mikel	153	7
ROGLIC Primoz	115	15
MAS NICOLAU Enric	90	13
TIBERI Antonio	65	2
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	53	2
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	40	2
HAIG Jack	37	3
VAN EETVELT Lennert	28	5
O'CONNOR Ben	16	1
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	14	7
WOODS Michael	10	2
YATES Adam	10	2

COQUARD Bryan	-15	1
GALL Felix	-15	2
LIPOWITZ Florian	-15	2
ARENSMAN Thymen	-24	7
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	-263	4

Not necessarily the riders that most obviously featured today, but Landa, Mas and Rodriguez determined today's top scoring team.

1	AmisVelo	292
2	Kazistuta	267
3	EvansIsTheBest	266
4	Sam6	218
5	Triley36	214
6	Madrazo	211
7	Vladimir	193
8	Search	191
9	Anderis	179
10	Del1962	178
11	Armchair_Cyclist	177
12	JumboVismaFan	162
13	Googolplex	153
14	Rufs	148
15	Bminchow	136
16	QueenStagiaire	134
17	Laurens147	124
18	DJSprtsch	111
18	SlowClimber	111
20	Ingsve	102
21	Titan31	98
22	Hfgon1	94
23	DJW	87
24	BluesInTheBottle	81
25	Leadbelly	76
26	DevilsElbow	67
27	Scrooll07	51
28	ZigZagWanderer	33
29	Laarsland	32
30	ArchieBoy	31
31	RedheadDane	13
32	SamuCuenca	6
33	Salvarani	-144
34	Nevs	-148
35	Peixotini	-251
36	LosBrolin	-257
	Collective_Wisdom	200
	Default	-84

Standings
But it is Roglic that determines the top teams overall: all of the top ten have him (and the top 6 are those that combine him with Mas)

1	EvansIsTheBest	1397	1
2	Vladimir	1344	-1
3	Madrazo	1216	1
4	Triley36	1192	1
5	Sam6	1150	3
6	Armchair_Cyclist	1136	0
7	Kazistuta	1103	6
8	Rufs	1059	1
9	JumboVismaFan	1008	3
10	DJW	966	1
11	Laarsland	935	-1
12	Titan31	914	2
13	Anderis	898	5
14	Salvarani	882	-11
15	Hfgon1	868	0
16	AmisVelo	861	10
17	DJSprtsch	853	0
18	Leadbelly	825	-2
19	Laurens147	819	1
20	Nevs	807	-13
21	BluesInTheBottle	793	-2
22	SlowClimber	749	1
23	Search	720	4
24	DevilsElbow	707	-2
25	Ingsve	703	0
26	ArchieBoy	656	-2
27	Googolplex	597	2
28	Del1962	515	3
29	Bminchow	470	3
30	Scrooll07	459	0
31	QueenStagiaire	429	2
32	Peixotini	403	-11
33	ZigZagWanderer	320	1
34	SamuCuenca	265	1
35	LosBrolin	247	-7
36	RedheadDane	125	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1129
	Default	713

With the top 6 all having the same top two picks, it is the third man that makes all the difference (as Graham Greene would tell you): Tiberi is that mysterious figure for Evans, so he moves into the lead.

Anderis · Aug 25, 2024

EvansIsTheBest said:
I'm not right very often in those sort of games but with Roglic, Mas and Tiberi in my team and Van Eetvelt and Groves being the other two expensive riders I considered, it looks like I was pretty spot on this time. Let's see if it holds to Madrid.

Bad timing to write that post.

EvansIsTheBest · Aug 25, 2024

Anderis said:
Bad timing to write that post.

I actually think it was the perfect timing to post that. Imagine how weird it would have been if I had posted that right now

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 25, 2024

Stage 9 Hazallanas x2 then down to Granada

Green points

YATES Adam	70	2
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	40	7
O'CONNOR Ben	25	1
LANDA MEANA Mikel	15	7
LIPOWITZ Florian	10	2
SIVAKOV Pavel	7	0
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	5	2
ROGLIC Primoz	3	15
GAUDU David	2	7
MAS NICOLAU Enric	1	13

The two teams with Yates do get a look in after all:

1	Laurens147	73 (Yates & Roglic)
2	LosBrolin	70
3	Laarsland	65 (Carapaz & O'Connor)
4	Bminchow	55 (Carapaz & Landa)
4	Del1962	55
4	Search	55
7	ArchieBoy	50
8	DevilsElbow	41
8	SlowClimber	41
10	AmisVelo	21
11	Kazistuta	18
12	Googolplex	15
12	QueenStagiaire	15
14	BluesInTheBottle	11
15	Anderis	8
16	Madrazo	6
16	Vladimir	6
18	Hfgon1	5
18	JumboVismaFan	5
18	Salvarani	5
21	Armchair_Cyclist	4
21	EvansIsTheBest	4
21	Sam6	4
21	Triley36	4
25	DJSprtsch	3
25	DJW	3
25	Nevs	3
25	Rufs	3
29	SamuCuenca	2
30	Ingsve	1
30	Titan31	1
32	Leadbelly	0
32	Peixotini	0
32	RedheadDane	0
32	Scrooll07	0
32	ZigZagWanderer	0
	Collective_Wisdom	4
	Default	10

Standings
It's rest day tomorrow, so I'll show everyone's standings:

1	DJW	313	0
2	Laurens147	256	8
3	EvansIsTheBest	225	-1
4	Laarsland	222	10
4	Vladimir	222	-1
6	Madrazo	214	-1
6	Triley36	214	-2
8	Sam6	212	-3
9	Armchair_Cyclist	211	-2
10	Rufs	203	-1
11	Titan31	202	-3
12	Kazistuta	194	-1
13	SlowClimber	187	6
14	DevilsElbow	185	6
15	Salvarani	178	-3
16	Nevs	172	-3
17	Anderis	161	-1
18	JumboVismaFan	159	-3
19	Hfgon1	158	-3
20	Peixotini	153	-4
21	DJSprtsch	146	0
22	Search	139	3
23	Googolplex	132	-1
24	ArchieBoy	127	3
25	AmisVelo	115	-2
26	Del1962	98	6
26	LosBrolin	98	8
28	BluesInTheBottle	96	-4
29	Bminchow	87	4
30	Leadbelly	82	-4
31	SamuCuenca	75	-3
32	QueenStagiaire	72	-1
33	Scrooll07	66	-4
34	Ingsve	60	-4
35	ZigZagWanderer	19	0
36	RedheadDane	0	0
	Collective_Wisdom	204
	Default	135

Red points
Not only the stage win for Yates, but also from nowhere to top of the KoM, and a 20 place GC jump. And he still doesn't get the biggest gain of the day.

CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	282	7
YATES Adam	280	2
GAUDU David	78	7
LIPOWITZ Florian	75	2
O'CONNOR Ben	43	1
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	43	2
GALL Felix	30	2
LANDA MEANA Mikel	15	7
KRUIJSWIJK Steven	13	4
VINE Jay	13	9
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	12	2
WOODS Michael	12	2

SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo	-10	1
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe	-12	4
TARLING Joshua	-15	2
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	-16	1
ROGLIC Primoz	-27	15
MAS NICOLAU Enric	-49	13
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	-51	2
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	-52	4
HAIG Jack	-54	3
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	-61	2
VAN EETVELT Lennert	-128	5
TIBERI Antonio	-265	2

Nobody paired Carapaz and Yates: one unfortunate team did match up Van Eetvelt and Tiberi

1	Laarsland	318 (Carapaz and O'Connor)
2	Bminchow	300 (Carapaz, Landa and Vine)
3	Del1962	298 (Carapaz, Landa and Vine)
4	Laurens147	253
5	LosBrolin	235
6	DevilsElbow	227
7	ArchieBoy	211
8	Search	176
9	SlowClimber	175
10	SamuCuenca	91
11	Vladimir	48
12	Hfgon1	36
13	Googolplex	30
14	BluesInTheBottle	19
15	AmisVelo	16
16	Salvarani	12
17	Anderis	11
18	RedheadDane	4
19	JumboVismaFan	2
20	QueenStagiaire	-3
21	Kazistuta	-4
22	Madrazo	-9
23	DJSprtsch	-19
24	DJW	-23
25	Peixotini	-70
25	ZigZagWanderer	-70
27	Nevs	-79
28	Sam6	-81
29	Armchair_Cyclist	-85
30	Triley36	-87
31	Ingsve	-103
32	Scrooll07	-105
33	Rufs	-155
34	Titan31	-173
35	EvansIsTheBest	-334
36	Leadbelly	-381
	Collective_Wisdom	-76
	Default	10

Standings
At one stage during the race, with Roglic in virtual 6th, I tried an "as it stands" listing, but things were changing so quickly I couldn't post it. But even this much change around gives nobody real grounds to have any confidence in their position.

1	Vladimir	1392	1
2	Laarsland	1253	9
3	Madrazo	1207	0
4	Triley36	1105	0
5	Kazistuta	1099	2
6	Laurens147	1072	13
7	Sam6	1069	-2
8	EvansIsTheBest	1063	-7
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1051	-3
10	JumboVismaFan	1010	-1
11	DJW	943	-1
12	DevilsElbow	934	12
13	SlowClimber	924	9
14	Anderis	909	-1
15	Hfgon1	904	0
15	Rufs	904	-7
17	Search	896	6
18	Salvarani	894	-4
19	AmisVelo	877	-3
20	ArchieBoy	867	6
21	DJSprtsch	834	-4
22	Del1962	813	6
23	BluesInTheBottle	812	-2
24	Bminchow	770	5
25	Titan31	741	-13
26	Nevs	728	-6
27	Googolplex	627	0
28	Ingsve	600	-3
29	LosBrolin	482	6
30	Leadbelly	444	-12
31	QueenStagiaire	426	0
32	SamuCuenca	356	2
33	Scrooll07	354	-3
34	Peixotini	333	-2
35	ZigZagWanderer	250	-2
36	RedheadDane	129	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1053
	Default	723

Could be an interesting couple of weeks.
Spreadsheet

RedheadDane · Aug 25, 2024

I actually scored points!

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 25, 2024

RedheadDane said:
I actually scored points!

Woods gained 12, Taaramae lost 1, Mate lost 7: net gain of 4

Nevs · Aug 27, 2024

Well Almeida's departure means my toast is burnt.

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 27, 2024

Nevs said:
Well Almeida's departure means my toast is burnt.

Not only yours:

Rider	teams	cost	points earned	net cost
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	4	1389	26	1363
TIBERI Antonio	2	715	18	697
TARLING Joshua	2	697	7	690
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria	1	517	0	517
COQUARD Bryan	1	504	18	486
CARUSO Damiano	4	257	0	257
URAN URAN Rigoberto	2	121	0	121
VAN BAARLE Dylan	2	104	0	104
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon	2	124	30	94
ELISSONDE Kenny	1	52	0	52

	No of DNFs	net cost	rank in game
Peixotini	2	1457	34
LosBrolin	1	1363	29
Nevs	1	1363	26
Salvarani	1	1363	18
QueenStagiaire	2	1176	31
RedheadDane	3	895	36
EvansIsTheBest	1	697	8
Leadbelly	1	697	30
ZigZagWanderer	1	690	35
Googolplex	1	257	27
Rufs	1	257	15
Sam6	1	257	7
DJSprtsch	2	173	21
JumboVismaFan	1	104	10
SamuCuenca	1	104	32
DJW	1	94	11

20 teams (including the top six) still have their full complement.

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 27, 2024

Stage 10 Now in the north of the country, and more formulaic than we have seen for a few days

Green points
There aren't any!

VAN AERT Wout	70 pts	0 team
PACHER Quentin	40	0
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc	25	0
LECERF William Junior	15	0
HOLLMANN Juri	10	0
JUARISTI ARRIETA Txomin	7	0
NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel	5	0
KÜNG Stefan	3	0
BENNETT George	2	0
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso	1	0

I'm not sure that that has happened on a GT game before.
Red points
Not an awful lot more to report here: A few riders didn'r stay with the peloton, and Van Aert has overtaken everyone except Yates in the KoM

O'CONNOR Ben	16	1
KRUIJSWIJK Steven	6	4
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	5	2
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe	4	4

TRAEEN Torstein	-5	1
VINE Jay	-5	9
GAUDU David	-10	7
CICCONE Giulio	-15	4
ROGLIC Primoz	-15	15
POOLE Max	-16	19
BOU COMPANY Joan	-17	1

Small gains and losses (mainly the latter)

1	Laarsland	14
2	Scrooll07	8
3	Peixotini	6
4	Del1962	0
4	RedheadDane	0
6	SamuCuenca	-4
7	Ingsve	-5
8	Googolplex	-7
9	SlowClimber	-9
10	AmisVelo	-10
10	Sam6	-10
12	Titan31	-14
13	Laurens147	-15
13	Nevs	-15
15	BluesInTheBottle	-17
15	Kazistuta	-17
17	Vladimir	-18
18	DJSprtsch	-19
19	LosBrolin	-21
20	DevilsElbow	-22
21	Search	-24
21	ZigZagWanderer	-24
23	Bminchow	-25
23	EvansIsTheBest	-25
25	Triley36	-26
26	Rufs	-28
27	Anderis	-29
27	Leadbelly	-29
29	Salvarani	-30
30	Armchair_Cyclist	-31
31	ArchieBoy	-35
32	DJW	-36
33	Madrazo	-38
34	QueenStagiaire	-39
35	JumboVismaFan	-40
36	Hfgon1	-41
	Collective_Wisdom	-35
	Default	-14

Standings
And therefore few changes in position, and then only when the teas were already very close to each other

1	Vladimir	1374	0
2	Laarsland	1267	0
3	Madrazo	1169	0
4	Kazistuta	1082	1
5	Triley36	1079	-1
6	Sam6	1059	1
7	Laurens147	1057	-1
8	EvansIsTheBest	1038	0
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1020	0
10	JumboVismaFan	970	0
11	SlowClimber	915	2
12	DevilsElbow	912	0
13	DJW	907	-2
14	Anderis	880	0
15	Rufs	876	0
16	Search	872	1
17	AmisVelo	867	2
18	Salvarani	864	0
19	Hfgon1	863	-4
20	ArchieBoy	832	0
21	DJSprtsch	815	0
22	Del1962	813	0
23	BluesInTheBottle	795	0
24	Bminchow	745	0
25	Titan31	727	0
26	Nevs	713	0
27	Googolplex	620	0
28	Ingsve	595	0
29	LosBrolin	461	0
30	Leadbelly	415	0
31	QueenStagiaire	387	0
32	Scrooll07	362	1
33	SamuCuenca	352	-1
34	Peixotini	339	0
35	ZigZagWanderer	226	0
36	RedheadDane	129	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1018
	Default	709

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 28, 2024

Stage 11 How is it touring a country if you do several loops around the same town, and end up where you started?

Green points
We are back to having riders that are picked in the top ten, thankfully.

DUNBAR Edward	70	7
HERMANS Quinten	40	0
POOLE Max	25	19
NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel	15	0
BERRADE FERNANDEZ Urko	10	0
ZANA Filippo	7	0
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	5	1
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos	3	0
GAROFOLI Gianmarco	2	0
MCNULTY Brandon	1	1

Poole is the second most popular pick in the game, so not real surprise that three of the Dunbar teams have him. But topping that pair off with Izagirre was the winning move.

1	Rufs	100
2	BluesInTheBottle	95
2	Triley36	95
4	Del1962	70
4	Kazistuta	70
4	Peixotini	70
4	Sam6	70
8	16 teams with Poole	25
24	SamuCuenca	1

And for the first time in ages, DJW looks catchable
Standings

1	DJW	338	0
2	Triley36	309	4
3	Rufs	303	7
4	Sam6	282	4
5	Kazistuta	264	7
6	Laurens147	256	-4
7	EvansIsTheBest	250	-4
8	Madrazo	239	-2
9	Armchair_Cyclist	236	0
10	Peixotini	223	10

Red points
GC movement both from the break and in the late GC attacks, so more interesting than a typical breakaway stage (though not necessarily more than typical in this race)

DUNBAR Edward	84	7
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	65	2
MAS NICOLAU Enric	50	13
POOLE Max	29	19
O'CONNOR Ben	18	1
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	13	1
KRUIJSWIJK Steven	12	4

ARENSMAN Thymen	-15	7
GALL Felix	-15	2
GAUDU David	-15	7
LIPOWITZ Florian	-25	2
YATES Adam	-25	2
VAN EETVELT Lennert	-30	5
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	-50	7

When TRiley does well, one can almost hear the gnashing of Sam6's teeth.

1	Triley36	171
2	AmisVelo	156
3	Sam6	142
4	Anderis	133
5	BluesInTheBottle	132
6	Rufs	96
7	Peixotini	92
8	EvansIsTheBest	91
9	Kazistuta	82
10	Madrazo	72
11	Armchair_Cyclist	64
12	ZigZagWanderer	37
13	Del1962	34
14	Ingsve	33
15	QueenStagiaire	28
16	Vladimir	26
17	JumboVismaFan	24
18	SlowClimber	18
19	DJW	14
20	DevilsElbow	12
21	Hfgon1	7
22	Scrooll07	6
23	Titan31	5
24	LosBrolin	4
25	Nevs	0
26	SamuCuenca	-2
27	RedheadDane	-4
28	DJSprtsch	-8
29	Googolplex	-12
30	Salvarani	-15
31	Leadbelly	-16
32	Laurens147	-20
33	Laarsland	-32
34	Bminchow	-36
35	Search	-51
36	ArchieBoy	-109
	Collective_Wisdom	79
	Default	-63

Standings
Gaudu and Gall still giving Vladimir the advantage over the other Roglic + Mas teams, while Laarsland drops away a bit even before his main scorer, O'Connor, does the same.

1	Vladimir	1400	0
2	Triley36	1250	3
3	Madrazo	1241	0
4	Laarsland	1235	-2
5	Sam6	1201	1
6	Kazistuta	1164	-2
7	EvansIsTheBest	1129	1
8	Armchair_Cyclist	1084	1
9	Laurens147	1037	-2
10	AmisVelo	1023	7
11	Anderis	1013	3
12	JumboVismaFan	994	-2
13	Rufs	972	2
14	SlowClimber	933	-3
15	BluesInTheBottle	927	8
16	DevilsElbow	924	-4
17	DJW	921	-4
18	Hfgon1	870	1
19	Salvarani	849	-1
20	Del1962	847	2
21	Search	821	-5
22	DJSprtsch	807	-1
23	Titan31	732	2
24	ArchieBoy	723	-4
25	Nevs	713	1
26	Bminchow	709	-2
27	Ingsve	628	1
28	Googolplex	608	-1
29	LosBrolin	465	0
30	Peixotini	431	4
31	QueenStagiaire	415	0
32	Leadbelly	399	-2
33	Scrooll07	368	-1
34	SamuCuenca	350	-1
35	ZigZagWanderer	263	0
36	RedheadDane	125	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1097
	Default	646

Meanwhile, with 3 1/2 games gone, there are fewer than 75 points between the top three teams in the 4 seasons challenge.

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 29, 2024

Stage 12 Wild card victory

Green points
Poole carries an even greater proportion of the day's points than yesterday:

CASTRILLO ZAPATER Pablo	70	0
POOLE Max	40	19
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc	25	0
SCHMID Mauro	15	0
NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel	10	0
VANSEVENANT Mauri	7	0
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso	5	0
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos	3	0
MEINTJES Louis	2	3
RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar	1	0

No-one has the Poole-Meintjes combo, so

1	19 teams with Poole	40
20	DJSprtsch, Ingsve, Kazistuta	2
23	Everyone else	0

Standings
The top three, and those in this selection who have moved up, do have Poole: those who dropped do not.

1	DJW	378	0
2	Triley36	349	0
3	Rufs	343	0
4	EvansIsTheBest	290	3
5	Sam6	282	-1
6	Madrazo	279	2
7	Armchair_Cyclist	276	2
8	Kazistuta	266	-3
9	Laurens147	256	-3
10	SlowClimber	252	3

Red points
Other than Poole, it's just small changes in GC in rather insignificant positions, and the withdrawal of Van Eetvelt.

POOLE Max	56	19
O'CONNOR Ben	15	1
MEINTJES Louis	10	3
RICCITELLO Matthew	10	8
KRUIJSWIJK Steven	6	4
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	6	6
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	6	1
TAARAMÄE Rein	6	4

WOODS Michael	-6	2
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	-9	1
ROGLIC Primoz	-10	15
VAN EETVELT Lennert	-60	5

Only two riders making a significant difference to anyone's scores, and for three people they sort of cancelled each other out.

1	SlowClimber	63
2	AmisVelo	62
2	DevilsElbow	62
4	BluesInTheBottle	56
4	Bminchow	56
4	Hfgon1	56
4	LosBrolin	56
4	Madrazo	56
4	Triley36	56
4	ZigZagWanderer	56
11	QueenStagiaire	55
12	Anderis	52
12	EvansIsTheBest	52
12	JumboVismaFan	52
15	Armchair_Cyclist	46
15	DJW	46
17	Googolplex	12
17	Laarsland	12
19	Vladimir	8
20	Peixotini	7
21	DJSprtsch	6
21	Ingsve	6
21	Kazistuta	6
21	SamuCuenca	6
25	Scrooll07	5
26	RedheadDane	0
26	Sam6	0
28	Del1962	-3
29	Search	-4
30	Leadbelly	-7
31	Nevs	-10
31	Salvarani	-10
33	Laurens147	-12
34	Rufs	-23
35	ArchieBoy	-54
35	Titan31	-54
	Collective_Wisdom	46
	Default	-1

A couple of days in which over half the field gains ground on him by having Poole, but Vladimir still holds more than 100 points as a buffer zone.

1	Vladimir	1408	0
2	Triley36	1306	0
3	Madrazo	1297	0
4	Laarsland	1247	0
5	Sam6	1201	0
6	EvansIsTheBest	1181	1
7	Kazistuta	1170	-1
8	Armchair_Cyclist	1130	0
9	AmisVelo	1085	1
10	Anderis	1065	1
11	JumboVismaFan	1046	1
12	Laurens147	1025	-3
13	SlowClimber	996	1
14	DevilsElbow	986	2
15	BluesInTheBottle	983	0
16	DJW	967	1
17	Rufs	949	-4
18	Hfgon1	926	0
19	Del1962	844	1
20	Salvarani	839	-1
21	Search	817	0
22	DJSprtsch	813	0
23	Bminchow	765	3
24	Nevs	703	1
25	Titan31	678	-2
26	ArchieBoy	669	-2
27	Ingsve	634	0
28	Googolplex	620	0
29	LosBrolin	521	0
30	QueenStagiaire	470	1
31	Peixotini	438	-1
32	Leadbelly	392	0
33	Scrooll07	373	0
34	SamuCuenca	356	0
35	ZigZagWanderer	319	0
36	RedheadDane	125	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1143
	Default	645

Tomorrow has more of a feel of a GC day: maybe a bit more happening.

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 31, 2024

Stage 13 Ancares climb

Green points
These breakaways do not do our reputation as pundits much good,

WOODS Michael	70	2
SCHMID Mauro	40	0
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc	25	0
OOMEN Sam	15	0
VAN AERT Wout	10	0
LEEMREIZE Gijs	7	3
PARRA CUERDA Jose Felix	5	0
BIZKARRA ETXEGIBEL Mikel	3	0
VERGALLITO Luca	2	0
LE BERRE Mathis	1	0

But at least (as mentioned several times in the race thread) RhD got the winner. But not uniquely.

1	JumboVismaFan. RedheadDane	70
3	Armchair_Cyclist, Scrooll07, Vladimir	7
6	Everyone else	0

Standings
More change than you'd imagine. Farther down the table, RhD has her first points

1	DJW	378	0
2	Triley36	349	0
3	Rufs	343	0
4	JumboVismaFan	294	10
5	EvansIsTheBest	290	-1
6	Armchair_Cyclist	283	1
7	Sam6	282	-2
8	Madrazo	279	-2
9	Kazistuta	266	-1
10	Laurens147	256	-1

Red points
~~Numbers look a bit off, I'll check them in the morning.~~ I see where I had gone wrong: easy enough fix.
So, after a delay, yesterday saw a lot of changes in time gaps, but not so many in position, which is all this can reflect (hence a very good day for Roglic shows only negative points from breakaway riders passing him in the KoM classification):

WOODS Michael	78	2
GAUDU David	22	7
O'CONNOR Ben	18	1
GALL Felix	15	2
VINE Jay	15	9
TAARAMÄE Rein	10	4

QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	-12	6
BERHE Welay Hagos	-15	2
ROGLIC Primoz	-15	15
POOLE Max	-18	19
YATES Adam	-85	2

With Taaramae moving from mid 30s to low 30s in GC as well as Woods's victory, a good day for those who keep a collection of old men (JVF also has both of them).

1	RedheadDane	88
2	JumboVismaFan	63
3	Vladimir	25
4	Salvarani	22
4	Scrooll07	22
6	SamuCuenca	20
7	Laarsland	17
8	Del1962	14
9	Googolplex	13
10	Anderis	8
10	Titan31	8
12	ZigZagWanderer	5
13	Peixotini	3
14	Ingsve	2
15	ArchieBoy	0
16	Bminchow	-3
16	QueenStagiaire	-3
16	Search	-3
19	Leadbelly	-4
20	Hfgon1	-7
20	Madrazo	-7
22	SlowClimber	-9
23	Sam6	-11
24	Nevs	-13
25	BluesInTheBottle	-18
25	DJW	-18
27	AmisVelo	-20
28	Armchair_Cyclist	-26
29	DJSprtsch	-29
29	Triley36	-29
31	DevilsElbow	-30
32	Rufs	-32
33	EvansIsTheBest	-35
34	Kazistuta	-44
35	LosBrolin	-88
36	Laurens147	-115
	Collective_Wisdom	-25
	Default	13

And that combination of older riders lifts JVF into the top ten. Vladimir's lead had been slightly eroded by those with Poole in the previous couple of stages, so him having a more relaxed day (half an hour down, and losing 13 GC places), combined with Gall and Gaudu overhauling Yates, increases the lead. Madrazo (also with Gaudu) moves up to second.

1	Vladimir	1433	0
2	Madrazo	1290	1
3	Triley36	1277	-1
4	Laarsland	1264	0
5	Sam6	1190	0
6	EvansIsTheBest	1146	0
7	Kazistuta	1126	0
8	JumboVismaFan	1109	3
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1104	-1
10	Anderis	1073	0
11	AmisVelo	1065	-2
12	SlowClimber	987	1
13	BluesInTheBottle	965	2
14	DevilsElbow	956	0
15	DJW	949	1
16	Hfgon1	919	2
17	Rufs	917	0
18	Laurens147	910	-6
19	Salvarani	861	1
20	Del1962	858	-1
21	Search	814	0
22	DJSprtsch	784	0
23	Bminchow	762	0
24	Nevs	690	0
25	Titan31	686	0
26	ArchieBoy	669	0
27	Ingsve	636	0
28	Googolplex	633	0
29	QueenStagiaire	467	1
30	Peixotini	441	1
31	LosBrolin	433	-2
32	Scrooll07	395	1
33	Leadbelly	388	-1
34	SamuCuenca	376	0
35	ZigZagWanderer	324	0
36	RedheadDane	213	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1118
	Default	658

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 31, 2024

Stage 14 First cat mountain in last 20km does not preclude a bunch sprint.

Green points
It has been ridiculously easy to track green points this week.

GROVES Kaden	70	1 (DJW, extends lead to 99 points)
VAN AERT Wout	40	0
STRONG Corbin	25	0
VACEK Mathias	15	0
MIQUEL DELGADO Pau	10	0
BARONCINI Filippo	7	0
GUGLIELMI Simon	5	1 (Los Brolin, jumps from 25th to 24th)
LIVYNS Arjen	3	0
BERASATEGI GARMENDIA Xabier	2	0
CANAL BLANCO Carlos	1	0

that saves us all some bandwidth.
Red points
Can I have an exemption from being expected to comment on the scores when there is patently so little to comment upon?

GROVES Kaden	70	1
O'CONNOR Ben	16	1
GUGLIELMI Simon	5	1
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	4	1
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe	4	4
MEINTJES Louis	2	3
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	2	6
WOODS Michael	2	2
POOLE Max	1	19
VERVAEKE Louis	1	1

ROGLIC Primoz	-3	15
BITTNER Pavel	-10	7
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	-10	2
TAARAMÄE Rein	-17	4

1	DJW	68
2	Laarsland	10
3	LosBrolin	6
4	Leadbelly	5
5	Del1962	4
6	Ingsve	2
6	JumboVismaFan	2
6	Rufs	2
9	AmisVelo	1
9	BluesInTheBottle	1
9	Bminchow	1
9	DJSprtsch	1
9	Kazistuta	1
9	QueenStagiaire	1
9	Search	1
9	ZigZagWanderer	1
17	ArchieBoy	0
17	SamuCuenca	0
19	Armchair_Cyclist	-2
19	EvansIsTheBest	-2
19	Hfgon1	-2
19	Madrazo	-2
19	Nevs	-2
19	Triley36	-2
25	Laurens147	-3
25	Salvarani	-3
25	Sam6	-3
28	Peixotini	-6
29	DevilsElbow	-7
30	Anderis	-9
31	Scrooll07	-10
31	Titan31	-10
33	RedheadDane	-15
34	Vladimir	-18
35	Googolplex	-25
36	SlowClimber	-36
	Collective_Wisdom	-2
	Default	23

Standings
Highlight of the day: Tejada came third in the intermediate sprint, causing Bittner to fall one place in the green jersey classification, costing Anderis a top ten place.

1	Vladimir	1415	0
2	Madrazo	1288	0
3	Triley36	1275	0
4	Laarsland	1274	0
5	Sam6	1187	0
6	EvansIsTheBest	1144	0
7	Kazistuta	1127	0
8	JumboVismaFan	1111	0
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1102	0
10	AmisVelo	1066	1
11	Anderis	1064	-1
12	DJW	1017	3
13	BluesInTheBottle	966	0
14	SlowClimber	951	-2
15	DevilsElbow	949	-1
16	Rufs	919	1
17	Hfgon1	917	-1
18	Laurens147	907	0
19	Del1962	862	1
20	Salvarani	858	-1
21	Search	815	0
22	DJSprtsch	785	0
23	Bminchow	763	0
24	Nevs	688	0
25	Titan31	676	0
26	ArchieBoy	669	0
27	Ingsve	638	0
28	Googolplex	608	0
29	QueenStagiaire	468	0
30	LosBrolin	439	1
31	Peixotini	435	-1
32	Leadbelly	393	1
33	Scrooll07	385	-1
34	SamuCuenca	376	0
35	ZigZagWanderer	325	0
36	RedheadDane	198	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1116
	Default	681

RedheadDane · Sep 1, 2024

Armchair Cyclist said:
Red points
Can I have an exemption from being expected to comment on the scores when there is patently so little to comment upon?

Okay, but I expect a novel commenting on stage 15!

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 1, 2024

RedheadDane said:
Okay, but I expect a novel commenting on stage 15!

I don't think the points changes are going to that huge, again.

RedheadDane · Sep 1, 2024

Armchair Cyclist said:
I don't think the points changes are going to that huge, again.

But a lot happened during the stage!

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 1, 2024

Stage 15 Cuitu Negru, rampas inhumanas

Green points
We didn't have much interest in the final few standing from the breakaway, then in came the selected riders

CASTRILLO ZAPATER Pablo	70	0
VLASOV Aleksandr	40	0
SIVAKOV Pavel	25	0
MAS NICOLAU Enric	15	13
ROGLIC Primoz	10	15
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	7	2
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	5	7
KUSS Sepp	3	4
LANDA MEANA Mikel	2	7
GAUDU David	1	7

The Roglic/Mas combination is what has determined most of the top placings in the red, now here as well.

1	Madrazo	26
1	Vladimir	26
3	Armchair_Cyclist	25
3	EvansIsTheBest	25
3	Sam6	25
3	Triley36	25
7	DevilsElbow	20
7	SlowClimber	20
9	BluesInTheBottle	18
9	Ingsve	18
11	AmisVelo	17
12	Anderis	16
13	Titan31	15
14	DJSprtsch	13
15	Kazistuta	12
16	Hfgon1	11
16	JumboVismaFan	11
16	Salvarani	11
19	DJW	10
19	Laurens147	10
19	Nevs	10
19	Rufs	10
23	Bminchow	7
23	Del1962	7
23	Scrooll07	7
23	Search	7
23	ZigZagWanderer	7
28	ArchieBoy	5
28	Googolplex	5
28	Laarsland	5
31	QueenStagiaire	2
32	SamuCuenca	1
33	Leadbelly	0
33	LosBrolin	0
33	Peixotini	0
33	RedheadDane	0
	Collective_Wisdom	25
	Default	0

Standings
Our leader doesn't have Mas, but his Roglic/Groves/Poole combination is looking pretty much unassailable. Not just the top ten, because rest day

1	DJW	458	0
2	Triley36	374	0
3	Rufs	353	0
4	EvansIsTheBest	315	1
5	Armchair_Cyclist	308	1
6	Sam6	307	1
7	JumboVismaFan	305	-3
7	Madrazo	305	1
9	Kazistuta	278	0
10	SlowClimber	272	1
11	DevilsElbow	270	1
12	Laurens147	266	-2
13	Vladimir	255	1
14	BluesInTheBottle	249	-1
15	Anderis	242	0
16	Hfgon1	234	0
17	Laarsland	227	1
18	Peixotini	223	-2
19	Titan31	217	1
20	Search	211	-1
21	AmisVelo	197	0
22	Salvarani	189	0
23	Nevs	182	0
24	Del1962	175	0
25	LosBrolin	168	-1
26	DJSprtsch	161	1
27	Bminchow	159	-1
28	Leadbelly	147	0
29	QueenStagiaire	139	0
30	Googolplex	137	0
31	ArchieBoy	132	0
32	ZigZagWanderer	91	0
33	Ingsve	80	3
33	Scrooll07	80	1
35	SamuCuenca	77	-2
36	RedheadDane	70	-1
	Collective_Wisdom	294
	Default	150

Red points
The riders that get most gains in the game are not the ones that the stage will be remembered for: the one who has most attention since the finish gets just 6 points net today

SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	37	2
GAUDU David	36	7
KUSS Sepp	25	4
LIPOWITZ Florian	25	2
O'CONNOR Ben	16	1
DUNBAR Edward	16	7
MAS NICOLAU Enric	15	13
VINE Jay	15	9
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	12	2

RICCITELLO Matthew	-12	8
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	-12	1
SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo	-15	1
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	-15	9
YATES Adam	-20	2
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	-50	2
GALL Felix	-103	2

A spread of points, but no huge jumps: those GC changes haven't (yet?) happened.

1	BluesInTheBottle	67
2	Salvarani	57
3	Madrazo	46
4	Scrooll07	41
5	DJSprtsch	39
6	ZigZagWanderer	38
7	JumboVismaFan	37
8	SamuCuenca	36
9	Del1962	33
9	Googolplex	33
11	Kazistuta	32
12	Ingsve	31
13	Triley36	26
14	Sam6	25
15	Search	23
16	Armchair_Cyclist	22
16	DJW	22
18	SlowClimber	21
19	EvansIsTheBest	20
20	Rufs	19
21	ArchieBoy	18
22	Hfgon1	16
23	Laarsland	11
24	Titan31	10
25	Bminchow	8
26	DevilsElbow	7
27	Nevs	4
28	QueenStagiaire	3
29	RedheadDane	1
30	LosBrolin	-4
31	Laurens147	-10
32	Anderis	-14
33	Peixotini	-21
34	AmisVelo	-34
35	Vladimir	-37
36	Leadbelly	-107
	Collective_Wisdom	22
	Default	-88

Standings
Until today, Felix Gall has been one of the reasons that Vladimir has held other teams at a distance: his absence from the elite group today might not have hurt O'Connor too much, but it has greatly reduced the leader's margin, but not (yet?) his identity. Which sort of summarises the race over the last few stages. The highest change of places sees Amis Velo fall out of the top ten, mainly due to Carlos Rodriguez losing places: his place is taken by Anderis, the only other team to have Rodriguez, but his losses were mitigated by Gaudu.

1	Vladimir	1378	0
2	Madrazo	1334	0
3	Triley36	1301	0
4	Laarsland	1285	0
5	Sam6	1212	0
6	EvansIsTheBest	1164	0
7	Kazistuta	1159	0
8	JumboVismaFan	1148	0
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1124	0
10	Anderis	1050	1
11	DJW	1039	1
12	BluesInTheBottle	1033	1
13	AmisVelo	1032	-3
14	SlowClimber	972	0
15	DevilsElbow	956	0
16	Rufs	938	0
17	Hfgon1	933	0
18	Salvarani	915	2
19	Laurens147	897	-1
20	Del1962	895	-1
21	Search	838	0
22	DJSprtsch	824	0
23	Bminchow	771	0
24	Nevs	692	0
25	ArchieBoy	687	1
26	Titan31	686	-1
27	Ingsve	669	0
28	Googolplex	641	0
29	QueenStagiaire	471	0
30	LosBrolin	435	0
31	Scrooll07	426	2
32	Peixotini	414	-1
33	SamuCuenca	412	1
34	ZigZagWanderer	363	1
35	Leadbelly	286	-3
36	RedheadDane	199	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1138
	Default	593

del1962 · Sep 1, 2024

Do thr Roglic teams get a points deduction

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 1, 2024

del1962 said:
Do thr Roglic teams get a points deduction

Will he fall 20 second short of gaining a bunch more points?

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 2, 2024

Rest day 2
Where did, and will, the key points come from?

	Red points	Green points	pop	teams in top 10 of Red or top 5 of green
O'CONNOR Ben	778	95	1	Laarsland
ROGLIC Primoz	575	156	15	all but Laarsland and Anderis
VAN AERT Wout	556	365	0
MAS NICOLAU Enric	386	71	13	Vlad, Mad, TRiley, Evans, Sam, Arm, Anderis
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	310	45	7	Laarsland
LANDA MEANA Mikel	287	47	7	Kaz
GROVES Kaden	260	205	1	DJW
LIPOWITZ Florian	250	35	2	none
YATES Adam	200	70	2	none
GAUDU David	196	4	7	Vlad, Mad, JVF, Anderis
CASTRILLO ZAPATER Pablo	195	140	0
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	177	12	2	Anderis
SIVAKOV Pavel	168	33	0
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	167	17	2	none
DUNBAR Edward	163	73	7	TRiley, Sam, Kaz, Rufs
VLASOV Aleksandr	152	43	0
WOODS Michael	126	70	2	JVF
KUSS Sepp	115	3	4	none
VACEK Mathias	112	95	0
BITTNER Pavel	112	87	7	Laarsland, Anderis
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc	110	75	0
MCNULTY Brandon	106	71	1	none
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian	106	10	0

The top 4 teams, arranged by points in the game:

Vladimir	Madrazo	TRiley36	Laarsland
	44 behind	77 behind	93 behind
			O'CONNOR Ben
ROGLIC Primoz	ROGLIC Primoz	ROGLIC Primoz
MAS NICOLAU Enric	MAS NICOLAU Enric	MAS NICOLAU Enric
			CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
GAUDU David	GAUDU David
		DUNBAR Edward
			BITTNER Pavel
	POOLE Max	POOLE Max
GALL Felix
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
	RICCITELLO Matthew	RICCITELLO Matthew
LEEMREIZE Gijs
TAARAMÄE Rein
			MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
	BOUCHARD Geoffrey
	GEOGHEGAN HART Tao	GEOGHEGAN HART Tao	GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
		LAFAY Victor	LAFAY Victor
	SCHELLING Ide	SCHELLING Ide
			TRAEEN Torstein

Rider withdrawals impact:

	DNFs	net cost of DNFs	position
QueenStagiaire	4	2023	29
Leadbelly	3	1825	35
Peixotini	3	1823	32
Titan31	3	1609	26
LosBrolin	1	1363	30
Nevs	1	1363	24
Salvarani	1	1363	18
ArchieBoy	2	1128	25
ZigZagWanderer	2	1056	34
Rufs	2	947	16
RedheadDane	3	895	36
Bminchow	2	847	23
DevilsElbow	2	847	15
Hfgon1	2	847	17
Ingsve	2	847	27
EvansIsTheBest	1	697	6
Search	1	690	21
Googolplex	2	623	28
DJW	2	575	11
Armchair_Cyclist	1	481	9
Anderis	1	366	10
BluesInTheBottle	1	366	12
Sam6	1	257	5
DJSprtsch	2	173	22
JumboVismaFan	1	104	8
SamuCuenca	1	104	33
Kazistuta	1	78	7
Laurens147	1	78	19
AmisVelo	0	0	13
Del1962	0	0	20
Laarsland	0	0	4
Madrazo	0	0	2
Scrooll07	0	0	31
SlowClimber	0	0	14
Triley36	0	0	3
Vladimir	0	0	1

Spreadsheet

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 3, 2024

del1962 said:
Do thr Roglic teams get a points deduction

Given that he is now <20 seconds short of the red jersey bonus, it could be said that the Roglic teams are being penalised 18 points a day for as long as this remains the case.

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 3, 2024

Stage 16 Lagos de Covadonga

Green points
Poole is an unexpected hero of this classification.

SOLER GIMENEZ Marc	70	0
ZANA Filippo	40	0
POOLE Max	25	19
VINE Jay	15	9
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	10	1
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	7	2
FRIGO Marco	5	2
RICCITELLO Matthew	3	8
MAS NICOLAU Enric	2	13
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	1	7

And better still today if you combine him with Vine, as 6 teams did. Two of them threw in Carapaz for good measure.

1	Bminchow	41
1	Search	41
3	DJW	40
3	LosBrolin	40
3	QueenStagiaire	40
3	ZigZagWanderer	40
7	Rufs	35
7	SlowClimber	35
9	Madrazo	30
9	Triley36	30
11	DevilsElbow	28
11	Hfgon1	28
11	JumboVismaFan	28
14	AmisVelo	27
14	Anderis	27
14	Armchair_Cyclist	27
14	BluesInTheBottle	27
14	EvansIsTheBest	27
19	Leadbelly	25
20	Del1962	16
21	Googolplex	15
21	Salvarani	15
21	Scrooll07	15
24	Laurens147	5
24	Sam6	5
24	Titan31	5
27	Peixotini	3
28	Ingsve	2
28	Vladimir	2
30	ArchieBoy	1
30	Laarsland	1
32	Only 5 non-scorers today	0

Standings
Everyone in this top ten scored today (Kazistuta didn't, so falls out of it), but leader DJW scored most. Again.

1	DJW	498	0
2	Triley36	404	0
3	Rufs	388	0
4	EvansIsTheBest	342	0
5	Madrazo	335	2
6	Armchair_Cyclist	335	-1
7	JumboVismaFan	333	0
8	Sam6	312	-2
9	SlowClimber	307	1
10	DevilsElbow	298	1

Red points
There are no CQ points for the white jersey, but the change of order between the contenders there (with not as young Gaudu also benefiting): Van Aert's catastrophe is the other main element here.

POOLE Max	45	19
VINE Jay	45	9
GROVES Kaden	30	1
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	25	2
GAUDU David	24	7
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	20	1
O'CONNOR Ben	17	1
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	15	2
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	13	2
RICCITELLO Matthew	13	8
FRIGO Marco	9	2
MEINTJES Louis	8	3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven	8	4
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	8	1

GALL Felix	-8	2
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	-8	6
WOODS Michael	-16	2
LIPOWITZ Florian	-65	2

ZigZag has had a fairly torrid game so far, down among the teams chosen for novelty value. Second on the day might offer some consolation. Given that DJW only tops today's rankings because of Van Aert's DNF, I presume he will respond with the same stony face that Groves did on accepting the green jersey.

1	DJW	119
2	ZigZagWanderer	105
3	Anderis	96
4	Search	91
4	Bminchow	91
6	QueenStagiaire	90
7	LosBrolin	87
8	Madrazo	83
9	Hfgon1	81
10	AmisVelo	80
11	Salvarani	68
12	Rufs	64
13	SlowClimber	61
14	Triley36	59
15	JumboVismaFan	57
16	EvansIsTheBest	54
17	Scrooll07	52
18	Armchair_Cyclist	46
19	Del1962	41
20	DevilsElbow	40
21	Googolplex	37
22	SamuCuenca	34
23	Leadbelly	32
24	Vladimir	17
25	Titan31	15
26	Sam6	14
27	Laarsland	13
28	Ingsve	10
29	Peixotini	8
30	Laurens147	5
31	Kazistuta	-1
31	DJSprtsch	-1
33	Nevs	-2
34	RedheadDane	-16
35	BluesInTheBottle	-18
36	ArchieBoy	-56
	Collective_Wisdom	69
	Default	-65

Standings
A change in the lead for the first time since stage 9. Madrazo, so often (and again here) King of the team popularity rankings, sits on this throne too. The points earned today by the two members of his team that did not (quite) make the Collective Wisdom team (Gaudu and Riccitello) more than account for the lead he now has.

1	Madrazo	1417	1
2	Vladimir	1395	-1
3	Triley36	1360	0
4	Laarsland	1298	0
5	Sam6	1226	0
6	EvansIsTheBest	1218	0
7	JumboVismaFan	1205	1
8	Armchair_Cyclist	1170	1
9	Kazistuta	1158	-2
10	DJW	1158	1
11	Anderis	1146	-1
12	AmisVelo	1112	1
13	SlowClimber	1033	1
14	BluesInTheBottle	1015	-2
15	Hfgon1	1014	2
16	Rufs	1002	0
17	DevilsElbow	996	-2
18	Salvarani	983	0
19	Del1962	936	1
20	Search	929	1
21	Laurens147	902	-2
22	Bminchow	862	1
23	DJSprtsch	823	-1
24	Titan31	701	2
25	Nevs	690	-1
26	Ingsve	679	1
27	Googolplex	678	1
28	ArchieBoy	631	-3
29	QueenStagiaire	561	0
30	LosBrolin	522	0
31	Scrooll07	478	0
32	ZigZagWanderer	468	2
33	SamuCuenca	446	0
34	Peixotini	422	-2
35	Leadbelly	318	0
36	RedheadDane	183	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1206
	Default	528

The tiebreaker comes into play for 9th place: Landa has fewer points than Groves, therefore Kazistuta is deemed not to be as reliant on one big scorer and gets the nod.

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 4, 2024

Stage 17 Sprint stage with not many sprinters left

Green points
Not quite sure why I am even showing the rest of the top ten.

GROVES Kaden	70	1 (DJW)
BITTNER Pavel	40	7 (Anderis, Devil's Elbow, Googolplex, Laarsland, Peixotini, Slow Climber, Titan 31)
BRAET Vito	25	0
MIQUEL DELGADO Pau	15	0
STRONG Corbin	10	0
CAMPENAERTS Victor	7	0
PLANCKAERT Edward	5	0
LE BERRE Mathis	3	0
LIVYNS Arjen	2	0
BERASATEGI GARMENDIA Xabier	1	0

Standings
DJW, of course, has Groves: those in the top ten with Bittner moved up

1	DJW	568	0
2	Triley36	404	0
3	Rufs	388	0
4	SlowClimber	347	5
5	EvansIsTheBest	342	-1
6	DevilsElbow	338	4
7	Madrazo	335	-2
8	Armchair_Cyclist	335	-2
9	JumboVismaFan	333	-2
10	Sam6	312	-2

Red points
Bittner catches up on the day's points gain, by overhauling noted sprinter Harold Tejada to get 2nd in the green jersey classification. Very little other movement: some riders losing time, Vlasov being the highest placed, so others moving up past them. And one relevant DNS.

GROVES Kaden	70	1
BITTNER Pavel	70	7
O'CONNOR Ben	16	1
POOLE Max	11	19
DUNBAR Edward	6	7
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	6	2
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	5	2

TAARAMÄE Rein	-6	4
GALL Felix	-12	2
WOODS Michael	-40	2

Those daily 18 red jersey points will occasionally bump Laarsland above those with otherwise similar scores.

1	Laarsland	89
2	DevilsElbow	81
2	Anderis	81
2	Peixotini	81
5	SlowClimber	80
6	DJW	79
7	Titan31	78
8	Googolplex	64
9	Triley36	17
9	BluesInTheBottle	17
11	Scrooll07	16
12	AmisVelo	13
13	Rufs	11
13	EvansIsTheBest	11
13	Madrazo	11
13	Hfgon1	11
13	Search	11
13	LosBrolin	11
13	Bminchow	11
13	QueenStagiaire	11
13	ZigZagWanderer	11
22	Armchair_Cyclist	9
22	Del1962	9
24	Sam6	6
25	SamuCuenca	3
26	Leadbelly	2
27	Kazistuta	0
27	Nevs	0
27	ArchieBoy	0
30	Salvarani	-2
31	Laurens147	-3
32	Ingsve	-4
33	DJSprtsch	-6
34	Vladimir	-18
35	JumboVismaFan	-29
36	RedheadDane	-46
	Collective_Wisdom	9
	Default	-1

Standings
Not much movement, but Laarsland is making full use of those bonuses for as long as O'Connor might keep getting them, to move into second.

1	Madrazo	1428	0
2	Laarsland	1387	2
3	Triley36	1377	0
4	Vladimir	1377	-2
5	DJW	1237	4
6	Sam6	1232	-1
7	EvansIsTheBest	1229	-1
8	Anderis	1227	3
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1179	-1
10	JumboVismaFan	1176	0
11	Kazistuta	1158	-2
12	AmisVelo	1125	0
13	SlowClimber	1113	0
14	DevilsElbow	1077	3
15	BluesInTheBottle	1032	-1
16	Hfgon1	1025	-1
17	Rufs	1013	-1
18	Salvarani	981	0
19	Del1962	945	0
20	Search	940	0
21	Laurens147	899	0
22	Bminchow	873	0
23	DJSprtsch	817	0
24	Titan31	779	0
25	Googolplex	742	2
26	Nevs	690	-1
27	Ingsve	675	-1
28	ArchieBoy	631	0
29	QueenStagiaire	572	0
30	LosBrolin	533	0
31	Peixotini	503	3
32	Scrooll07	494	-1
33	ZigZagWanderer	479	-1
34	SamuCuenca	449	-1
35	Leadbelly	320	0
36	RedheadDane	137	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1215
	Default	527

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 6, 2024

Stage 18 Izki Natural Park

Green points
Poole is once again the key to the day's points

BERRADE FERNANDEZ Urko	70	0
SCHMID Mauro	40	0
POOLE Max	25	19
VLASOV Aleksandr	15	0
LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier	10	1
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	7	1
VACEK Mathias	5	0
CASTRILLO ZAPATER Pablo	3	0
MIQUEL DELGADO Pau	2	0
KRUIJSWIJK Steven	1	4

Most of those with a lower placed scoring rider also had Poole:

1	ZigZagWanderer	35
2	Rufs	32
3	EvansIsTheBest, AmisVelo	26
5	rest of the Poole teams	25
20	Vladimir, SamuCuenca	1
22	the rest	0

Standings

Sam6, not having Poole, drops out of the top ten: all of the following did pick him.

1	DJW	593	0
2	Triley36	429	0
3	Rufs	420	0
4	SlowClimber	372	0
5	EvansIsTheBest	368	0
6	DevilsElbow	363	0
7	Madrazo	360	0
8	Armchair_Cyclist	360	0
9	JumboVismaFan	358	0
10	Anderis	334	1

Red points

The misfortunes of Landa bring bonuses for others, Poole moves up to third in one classification, Vine drops to second in another.

POOLE Max	49	19
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	25	2
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	25	2
GAUDU David	24	7
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	19	1
O'CONNOR Ben	18	1
LIPOWITZ Florian	15	2
LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier	10	1

MEINTJES Louis	-10	3
TAARAMÄE Rein	-22	4
BITTNER Pavel	-25	7
VINE Jay	-30	9
LANDA MEANA Mikel	-105	7

1	Anderis	73
2	Rufs	72
2	BluesInTheBottle	72
4	Madrazo	69
4	Hfgon1	69
6	JumboVismaFan	61
7	EvansIsTheBest	54
7	ZigZagWanderer	54
9	Triley36	53
10	Armchair_Cyclist	45
11	Leadbelly	44
12	SamuCuenca	36
13	Scrooll07	21
14	LosBrolin	19
15	DevilsElbow	16
16	DJW	15
17	ArchieBoy	7
18	Sam6	4
19	SlowClimber	0
20	Vladimir	-3
21	Laurens147	-6
21	Nevs	-6
23	Laarsland	-10
23	Salvarani	-10
23	Ingsve	-10
26	Peixotini	-20
27	AmisVelo	-22
27	DJSprtsch	-22
27	RedheadDane	-22
30	Titan31	-31
31	Search	-86
31	Bminchow	-86
31	QueenStagiaire	-86
34	Kazistuta	-119
35	Del1962	-130
36	Googolplex	-190
	Collective_Wisdom	30
	Default	10

Standings
Anderis, top scorer today (Poole, Gaudu and Rodriguez, but Bittner), is moving up a fair jump. The top two, with Poole, move a bit farther clear of Laarsland, who stays thereabouts for as long as O'Connor stays in red. Amis Velo is the highest of those who lost big through Landa, but had dropped out of the top ten some days ago anyway.

1	Madrazo	1497	0
2	Triley36	1430	1
3	Laarsland	1377	-1
4	Vladimir	1374	0
5	Anderis	1300	3
6	EvansIsTheBest	1283	1
7	DJW	1252	-2
8	JumboVismaFan	1237	2
9	Sam6	1236	-3
10	Armchair_Cyclist	1224	0
11	SlowClimber	1113	2
12	BluesInTheBottle	1104	3
13	AmisVelo	1103	-1
14	Hfgon1	1094	2
15	DevilsElbow	1093	-1
16	Rufs	1085	1
17	Kazistuta	1039	-6
18	Salvarani	971	0
19	Laurens147	893	2
20	Search	854	0
21	Del1962	815	-2
22	DJSprtsch	795	1
23	Bminchow	787	-1
24	Titan31	748	0
25	Nevs	684	1
26	Ingsve	665	1
27	ArchieBoy	638	1
28	LosBrolin	552	2
28	Googolplex	552	-3
30	ZigZagWanderer	533	3
31	Scrooll07	515	1
32	QueenStagiaire	486	-3
33	SamuCuenca	485	1
34	Peixotini	483	-3
35	Leadbelly	364	0
36	RedheadDane	115	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1245
	Default	537

Armchair Cyclist · Sep 6, 2024

Stage 19 Order restored on Moncalvillo

Green points
In contrast to some recent stages, all of the top ten carried the votes of confidence of players here

ROGLIC Primoz	70	15
GAUDU David	40	7
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	25	2
MAS NICOLAU Enric	15	13
LANDA MEANA Mikel	10	7
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	7	2
DUNBAR Edward	5	7
KUSS Sepp	3	4
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	2	7
LIPOWITZ Florian	1	2

The current overall leader, and the manager who help that place for half the game, both take a 1-2-4 here

1	Madrazo	125
1	Vladimir	125
3	JumboVismaFan	110
3	Hfgon1	110
3	Salvarani	110
6	Triley36	90
6	Sam6	90
8	EvansIsTheBest	85
8	Armchair_Cyclist	85
8	Kazistuta	85
11	Rufs	75
12	DJSprtsch	73
13	DJW	70
13	Laurens147	70
13	Nevs	70
16	Anderis	62
17	SamuCuenca	40
18	AmisVelo	32
19	ZigZagWanderer	25
19	Scrooll07	25
21	BluesInTheBottle	24
22	Ingsve	18
23	SlowClimber	17
23	DevilsElbow	17
23	Del1962	17
26	Titan31	15
27	Googolplex	13
28	Search	12
28	Bminchow	12
30	QueenStagiaire	10
31	Peixotini	5
32	ArchieBoy	3
33	Laarsland	2
34	LosBrolin	0
34	Leadbelly	0
34	RedheadDane	0
	Collective_Wisdom	85
	Default	1

Standings

1	DJW	663	0
2	Triley36	519	0
3	Rufs	495	0
4	Madrazo	485	3
5	JumboVismaFan	468	4
6	EvansIsTheBest	453	-1
7	Armchair_Cyclist	445	1
8	Sam6	402	3
9	Hfgon1	397	4
10	Anderis	396	0

Red points
I guess we all knew it was going to happen.

ROGLIC Primoz	242	15
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	50	2
GAUDU David	43	7
LANDA MEANA Mikel	25	7
MAS NICOLAU Enric	16	13
KUSS Sepp	11	4

YATES Adam	-11	2
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	-18	2
O'CONNOR Ben	-125	1

Teams with Mas and Carapaz will have to wait a little longer. Or perhaps forever.

I guess even Laarsland knew it would happen eventually. While 15 teams now realise that it didn't really improve their position much relative to those around them.

1	Madrazo	310
2	Vladimir	295
3	Hfgon1	294
4	JumboVismaFan	292
5	Salvarani	285
6	Kazistuta	274
7	Triley36	272
8	EvansIsTheBest	265
8	Armchair_Cyclist	265
8	Sam6	265
11	DJSprtsch	255
12	Rufs	254
13	DJW	249
14	Nevs	242
15	Laurens147	228
16	ZigZagWanderer	57
17	Scrooll07	56
18	BluesInTheBottle	40
19	Anderis	39
20	SamuCuenca	37
21	Del1962	36
22	Search	34
22	Bminchow	34
24	Googolplex	33
25	QueenStagiaire	32
26	AmisVelo	30
27	Ingsve	23
28	DevilsElbow	22
29	Titan31	19
30	SlowClimber	18
31	ArchieBoy	11
32	Peixotini	6
33	Leadbelly	3
34	LosBrolin	0
34	RedheadDane	0
36	Laarsland	-124
	Collective_Wisdom	265
	Default	-3

Standings

Madrazo was leader before he was top scorer today: more than 100 points is the margin now. The difference between him and TRiley is essentially Gaudu vs Dunbar.

Anderis preserves one foothold in the top ten for those that did not choose Roglic.

1	Madrazo	1807	0
2	Triley36	1702	0
3	Vladimir	1669	1
4	EvansIsTheBest	1548	2
5	JumboVismaFan	1529	3
6	DJW	1501	1
7	Sam6	1501	2
8	Armchair_Cyclist	1489	2
9	Hfgon1	1388	5
10	Anderis	1339	-5
11	Rufs	1339	5
12	Kazistuta	1313	5
13	Salvarani	1256	5
14	Laarsland	1253	-11
15	BluesInTheBottle	1144	-3
16	AmisVelo	1133	-3
17	SlowClimber	1131	-6
18	Laurens147	1121	1
19	DevilsElbow	1115	-4
20	DJSprtsch	1050	2
21	Nevs	926	4
22	Search	888	-2
23	Del1962	851	-2
24	Bminchow	821	-1
25	Titan31	767	-1
26	Ingsve	688	0
27	ArchieBoy	649	0
28	ZigZagWanderer	590	2
29	Googolplex	585	-1
30	Scrooll07	571	1
31	LosBrolin	552	-3
32	SamuCuenca	522	1
33	QueenStagiaire	518	-1
34	Peixotini	489	0
35	Leadbelly	367	0
36	RedheadDane	115	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1510
	Default	534

They say that we have already had the queen stage: in that case, we'll have to see what the empress stage tomorrow might change.

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