2025 Giro CQ Game

Armchair Cyclist · Friday at 4:56 PM

Stage 19

Shakedown postponed (perhaps permanently)

Stage pts

Another good value stage winner (cost was 190)

PRODHOMME Nicolas	70	3
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	40	3
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	25	5
CARUSO Damiano	15	8
MCNULTY Brandon	10	0
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	7	19
YATES Simon	5	23
MAJKA Rafal	3	0
TIBERI Antonio	2	15
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	1	2

QS has Caruso and Bernal as well as the stage winner

1	QueenStagiaire	92
2	Qazaqstan	86
3	Laarsland	84
4	Abbulf	52
4	Sam6	52
6	Hayneplane	49
7	Del1962	45
8	Armchair_Cyclist	37
8	Leadbelly	37
10	Peixotini	32
11	DJSprtsch	27
11	HiHope	27
13	Vladimir	25
14	SlowClimber	24
15	LosBrolin	22
16	DevilsElbow	20
17	Madrazo	15
18	DJW	14
18	Ingsve	14
18	Titan31	14
21	Bminchow	12
21	JumboVismaFan	12
21	Kazistuta	12
21	Search	12
25	EvansIsTheBest	9
26	BicycleBoy	7
27	Hfgon1	5
27	Triley36	5
27	YellowKnight	5
30	BluesInTheBottle	2
30	Josedin	2
30	NBFC1962	2
30	Nevs	2
	Collective_Wisdom	29
	Default	12

Standings

Bminchow's lead comes to an end, as the Toristas again get stage podium points.

1	Abbulf	382	(+1)
2	Del1962	370	(+1)
3	Bminchow	369	(-2)
4	Hayneplane	356	(+1)
5	Sam6	348	(+1)
6	DJW	329	(-2)
7	Armchair_Cyclist	322	(+1)
8	Ingsve	302	(-1)
9	DJSprtsch	292	(-)
10	QueenStagiaire	274	(+11)

Overall Points

Prudhomme also goes from nowhere to third in the KoM classification

PRODHOMME Nicolas	101	3
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	65	3
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	35	5
TIBERI Antonio	24	15
CARUSO Damiano	15	8
STORER Michael	15	2
MEINTJES Louis	12	3
KRUIJSWIJK Steven	11	1

FORMOLO Davide	-10	1
ARENSMAN Thymen	-12	7
BRENNER Marco	-15	2
VENDRAME Andrea	-19	3

A daily top score near the end of the race might go some way towards making up for Laarsland having been scuppered by Landa's injury on day one.

1	Laarsland	118
2	Qazaqstan	110
3	QueenStagiaire	109
4	Hayneplane	100
5	Abbulf	83
6	Del1962	76
7	Sam6	67
8	Peixotini	57
9	EvansIsTheBest	48
10	Armchair_Cyclist	47
11	Madrazo	42
12	DJW	41
12	SlowClimber	41
14	Josedin	39
15	LosBrolin	32
15	Vladimir	32
17	BicycleBoy	31
17	DevilsElbow	31
19	Ingsve	30
20	DJSprtsch	29
21	Leadbelly	28
21	Triley36	28
23	HiHope	27
24	BluesInTheBottle	24
24	Nevs	24
24	Titan31	24
27	NBFC1962	19
28	YellowKnight	18
29	JumboVismaFan	15
30	Bminchow	12
31	RedheadDane	11
31	SamuCuenca	11
33	Kazistuta	8
34	AmisVelo	5
35	Search	-7
36	Hfgon1	-15
36	Onizuka999	-15
38	Rufs	-26
	Collective_Wisdom	56
	Default	12

Standings

Top 12 places unchanged: possibly a record on a stage that featured GC guys

1	Abbulf	1899	(-)
2	Hayneplane	1762	(-)
3	Sam6	1545	(-)
4	Del1962	1516	(-)
5	DJSprtsch	1413	(-)
6	Leadbelly	1308	(-)
7	Armchair_Cyclist	1287	(-)
8	Peixotini	1202	(-)
9	Madrazo	1118	(-)
10	Ingsve	1089	(-)
11	DJW	1056	(-)
12	HiHope	1028	(-)
13	Laarsland	1019	(+4)
14	BicycleBoy	1007	(-1)
15	Titan31	993	(-1)
16	QueenStagiaire	972	(+2)
17	Qazaqstan	968	(+2)
18	LosBrolin	951	(-3)
19	Bminchow	929	(-3)
20	SlowClimber	886	(+1)
21	Kazistuta	863	(-1)
22	DevilsElbow	846	(-)
23	Vladimir	838	(-)
24	JumboVismaFan	821	(-1)
25	Search	787	(-)
26	YellowKnight	755	(-)
27	Triley36	683	(-)
28	Hfgon1	640	(-1)
29	EvansIsTheBest	639	(+1)
30	BluesInTheBottle	624	(-1)
31	Josedin	514	(+1)
32	Nevs	508	(-1)
33	RedheadDane	484	(-)
34	SamuCuenca	420	(+1)
35	Onizuka999	415	(-1)
36	NBFC1962	414	(-)
37	AmisVelo	351	(+1)
38	Rufs	349	(-1)
	Collective_Wisdom	1168
	Default	1016

Qazaqstan · Saturday at 12:28 AM

Congratz for those who picked Del Toro! I didn't see his good result coming and didn't even consider him.
Had high expectations from Ayuso, Arensman, Poole and Rubio. Only Rubio is steady. Not my best game,

Armchair Cyclist · Saturday at 4:33 PM

Stage 20
Redemption or capitulation?

Stage points

And again, a winner who makes instantly for a pretty good value pick, although he had probably disappointed those who went for him prior to today.

HARPER Chris	70	13
VERRE Alessandro	40	0
YATES Simon	25	23
GAROFOLI Gianmarco	15	0
ROCHAS Rémy	10	0
MARCELLUSI Martin	7	2
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos	5	0
POOLE Max	3	4
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	2	3
PELLIZZARI Giulio	1	0

Harper and Yates was a fairly popular pairing, but one of the 9 teams in that category also has Marcellusi

1	Ingsve	102
2	DevilsElbow	95
2	DJW	95
2	HiHope	95
2	Kazistuta	95
2	Leadbelly	95
2	LosBrolin	95
2	Madrazo	95
2	Triley36	95
10	Onizuka999	73
10	Qazaqstan	73
12	AmisVelo	70
12	BluesInTheBottle	70
14	Bminchow	32
15	Abbulf	30
16	Titan31	28
17	Del1962	27
18	Armchair_Cyclist	25
18	BicycleBoy	25
18	DJSprtsch	25
18	Hfgon1	25
18	JumboVismaFan	25
18	Laarsland	25
18	Peixotini	25
18	Sam6	25
18	Search	25
18	YellowKnight	25
28	Hayneplane	2
	Collective_Wisdom	95
	Default	26

Standings
Harper launches DJW into the lead, with just one stage remaining

1	DJW	424	(+5)
2	Abbulf	412	(-1)
3	Ingsve	404	(+5)
4	Bminchow	401	(-1)
5	Del1962	397	(-3)
6	Sam6	373	(-1)
7	Hayneplane	358	(-3)
8	Armchair_Cyclist	347	(-1)
9	Leadbelly	340	(+4)
10	Madrazo	321	(+7)

Sprinters are fairly few and far between in these teams. I reckon Bminchow is favourite to take it, through Groves if he makes the top three tomorrow, but if Zijlaard (for DJW) is 8th or better, then he would need Groves to be 2nd (at least). Unless Bennett (for Abbulf) suddenly rides like it is 2020.
Overall points
Not many getting significant scores, at least in positive territory, but it includes the most significant of the race.

YATES Simon	228	23
HARPER Chris	87	13
VENDRAME Andrea	11	3

CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander	-11	1
FORMOLO Davide	-15	1
STORER Michael	-15	2
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	-25	19
TIBERI Antonio	-34	15
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	-65	5
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	-131	3

Most of those with both Yates and Harper have an least some downside to their scores, but not TRiley

1	Triley36	310
2	DevilsElbow	307
3	HiHope	290
4	LosBrolin	281
5	Kazistuta	275
6	Ingsve	263
7	DJW	259
7	Madrazo	259
9	Hfgon1	226
10	Leadbelly	221
11	Search	214
12	Bminchow	210
13	YellowKnight	209
14	JumboVismaFan	207
15	BicycleBoy	198
16	DJSprtsch	195
17	Laarsland	186
18	Titan31	172
19	Sam6	141
20	Armchair_Cyclist	138
21	Peixotini	132
22	Qazaqstan	99
23	Del1962	93
24	AmisVelo	90
24	Onizuka999	90
26	Abbulf	75
27	BluesInTheBottle	53
28	Rufs	14
29	SamuCuenca	1
30	RedheadDane	-8
31	QueenStagiaire	-23
32	Nevs	-34
33	NBFC1962	-40
34	Josedin	-49
35	EvansIsTheBest	-56
36	SlowClimber	-61
37	Vladimir	-88
38	Hayneplane	-196
	Collective_Wisdom	259
	Default	229

Standings

Two of the Del Toro teams have Yates, so they don't suffer too much (Del Toro is still giving 260 odd points more), but the change in race leadership causes some disruption in the higher, but not highest, places here.

1	Abbulf	1974	(-)
2	Sam6	1686	(+1)
3	Del1962	1609	(+1)
4	DJSprtsch	1608	(+1)
5	Hayneplane	1566	(-3)
6	Leadbelly	1529	(-)
7	Armchair_Cyclist	1425	(-)
8	Madrazo	1377	(+1)
9	Ingsve	1352	(+1)
10	Peixotini	1334	(-2)
11	HiHope	1318	(+1)
12	DJW	1315	(-1)
13	LosBrolin	1232	(+5)
14	Laarsland	1205	(-1)
15	BicycleBoy	1205	(-1)
16	Titan31	1165	(-1)
17	DevilsElbow	1153	(+5)
18	Bminchow	1139	(+1)
19	Kazistuta	1138	(+2)
20	Qazaqstan	1067	(-3)
21	JumboVismaFan	1028	(+3)
22	Search	1001	(+3)
23	Triley36	993	(+4)
24	YellowKnight	964	(+2)
25	QueenStagiaire	949	(-9)
26	Hfgon1	866	(+2)
27	SlowClimber	825	(-7)
28	Vladimir	750	(-5)
29	BluesInTheBottle	677	(+1)
30	EvansIsTheBest	583	(-1)
31	Onizuka999	505	(+4)
32	RedheadDane	476	(+1)
33	Nevs	474	(-1)
34	Josedin	465	(-3)
35	AmisVelo	441	(+2)
36	SamuCuenca	421	(-2)
37	NBFC1962	374	(-1)
38	Rufs	363	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1427
	Default	1245

Typically, a few riders in the 30s and 40s of GC will somehow lose time on the last day, so there might be something other than stage points to be altered here tomorrow, but not much.

abbulf · Sunday at 2:54 AM

Exciting! Starting to get my hopes up now 😅

DJ Sprtsch · Sunday at 10:23 AM

Oh man, missed the podium by one CQ-point. Maybe there’s a chance if Van Uden takes Del Toros fifth place in the points classification. Van Uden needs 22 points.

ingsve · Sunday at 11:35 AM

Armchair Cyclist said:
Sprinters are fairly few and far between in these teams. I reckon Bminchow is favourite to take it, through Groves if he makes the top three tomorrow, but if Zijlaard (for DJW) is 8th or better, then he would need Groves to be 2nd (at least). Unless Bennett (for Abbulf) suddenly rides like it is 2020.

Did you forget about Casper Van Uden who already has a first and second place this Giro?

Armchair Cyclist · Sunday at 12:43 PM

ingsve said:
Did you forget about Casper Van Uden who already has a first and second place this Giro?

Yes, apparently I did.

So, for the purplish points classification, it's

	points behind	sprinter(s)
DJW	0	Zijlaard
Abbulf	12	Bennett
Ingsve	20	Van Uden
Bminchow	23	Groves
Del1962	27	nope, but neither have the teams close behind him

Armchair Cyclist · Sunday at 1:41 PM

DJ Sprtsch said:
Oh man, missed the podium by one CQ-point. Maybe there’s a chance if Van Uden takes Del Toros fifth place in the points classification. Van Uden needs 22 points.

So assuming Del Toro does not sprint like he did yesterday and leaving aside the intermediate sprints, third place would take Van Uden into 5th, and DJSprtsch into 3rd (Del, as noted in the previous post, is sprinterless). Behind DJSprtsch, nobody in range has anyone in whom much hope could be invested today.

But in the points classification, if Groves wins and Van Uden is 3rd, then they are tied. I'm not sure what the tie breaker is, but I suspect that two stage wins will put that in Groves' favour, and Van Uden will not be any higher up the rankings. That means (if I am correct in my assumption) that a win for Groves would mean that Van Uden needs second for DJSprtsch to push Del off the podium.

But aside from the sprinters, it is very plausible that Masnada or Frigo, for example, not realising the importance of their current placings in this game, might lose or gain a couple of GC slots.

DJ Sprtsch · Sunday at 1:53 PM

Oh - didn’t think of Frigo’s GC!
Or that Groves could sneak past Del Toro in the points classification as well.

del1962 · Sunday at 2:59 PM

Quintana on my team is most likely to drop a place only seconds seconds ahead of Bardet

Armchair Cyclist · Sunday at 5:27 PM

Armchair Cyclist said:
Yes, apparently I did.

So, for the purplish points classification, it's

points behind sprinter(s)
DJW
0
Zijlaard
Abbulf
12
Bennett
Ingsve
20
Van Uden
Bminchow
23
Groves
Del1962
27
nope, but neither have the teams close behind him

Unless the break stays clear and Marcellusi does it for Bminchow instead...

Armchair Cyclist · Sunday at 6:17 PM

Armchair Cyclist said:
Yes, apparently I did.

but so did the Picnic NL leadout

Armchair Cyclist · Sunday at 6:32 PM

Stage 21 purplish points

KOOIJ Olav	70	0
GROVES Kaden	40	5
MOSCHETTI Matteo	25	3
PEDERSEN Mads	15	0
LAMPERTI Luke	10	0
KANTER Max	7	0
BARONCINI Filippo	5	2
AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto	3	0
ZANONCELLO Enrico	2	0
LONARDI Giovanni	1	2

Final contributions to our scores
Josedin is unusual in having two sprinters: Groves and Moschetti

1	Josedin	65
2	SamuCuenca	40
2	Rufs	40
2	Nevs	40
2	Bminchow	40
6	RedheadDane	25
6	Armchair_Cyclist	25
8	YellowKnight	5
8	BicycleBoy	5
10	Titan31	1
10	QueenStagiaire	1

Final standings

Bminchow had been knocked off the top for a few days by Del Toro's finishes, but Groves gets back in the nick of time, and our minor classification has a winner.

1	Bminchow	441	(+3)
2	DJW	424	(-1)
3	Abbulf	412	(-1)
4	Ingsve	404	(-1)
5	Del1962	397	(-)
6	Sam6	373	(-)
7	Armchair_Cyclist	372	(+1)
8	Hayneplane	358	(-1)
9	Leadbelly	340	(-)
10	Madrazo	321	(-)
11	DJSprtsch	317	(-)
12	SamuCuenca	300	(+6)
13	Peixotini	297	(-1)
14	Qazaqstan	291	(-1)
15	HiHope	290	(-1)
16	Nevs	280	(+6)
17	QueenStagiaire	275	(-2)
18	LosBrolin	270	(-2)
19	Rufs	268	(+6)
20	Kazistuta	264	(-3)
21	AmisVelo	255	(-2)
22	DevilsElbow	251	(-2)
23	Vladimir	244	(-2)
24	Josedin	242	(+11)
25	Laarsland	240	(-3)
26	RedheadDane	231	(+3)
27	Search	229	(-3)
28	Hfgon1	222	(-2)
29	JumboVismaFan	215	(-2)
30	BluesInTheBottle	209	(-2)
31	YellowKnight	202	(-1)
32	Triley36	197	(-2)
33	Onizuka999	194	(-1)
34	SlowClimber	191	(-1)
35	Titan31	184	(-1)
36	BicycleBoy	168	(-)
37	EvansIsTheBest	135	(-)
38	NBFC1962	97	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	311
	Default	297

Armchair Cyclist · Sunday at 7:37 PM

Stage 21 Overall points

Final alterations
Some minor GC changes, and Groves moving up in the points competition and displacing some others

GROVES Kaden	47	5
MOSCHETTI Matteo	25	3
BARONCINI Filippo	5	2
FORMOLO Davide	2	1
LONARDI Giovanni	1	2
POELS Wout	1	2

CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander	-2	1
VAN UDEN Casper	-2	1
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	-3	5

Minor tweaks to the final scores

1	Josedin	72
2	SamuCuenca	47
2	Rufs	47
2	Nevs	47
2	Bminchow	47
6	RedheadDane	25
7	Armchair_Cyclist	22
8	YellowKnight	5
8	BicycleBoy	5
10	Titan31	1
10	QueenStagiaire	1
10	Del1962	1
	loads with no difference today
33	Vladimir	-1
34	Leadbelly	-2
34	Kazistuta	-2
34	Ingsve	-2
37	Sam6	-3
37	Peixotini	-3
	Collective_Wisdom	0
	Default	35

The final rankings

1	Abbulf	1974	(-)
2	Sam6	1683	(-)
3	Del1962	1610	(-)
4	DJSprtsch	1608	(-)
5	Hayneplane	1566	(-)
6	Leadbelly	1527	(-)
7	Armchair_Cyclist	1447	(-)
8	Madrazo	1377	(-)
9	Ingsve	1350	(-)
10	Peixotini	1331	(-)
11	HiHope	1318	(-)
12	DJW	1315	(-)
13	LosBrolin	1232	(-)
14	BicycleBoy	1210	(+1)
15	Laarsland	1205	(-1)
16	Bminchow	1186	(+2)
17	Titan31	1166	(-1)
18	DevilsElbow	1153	(-1)
19	Kazistuta	1136	(-)
20	Qazaqstan	1067	(-)
21	JumboVismaFan	1028	(-)
22	Search	1001	(-)
23	Triley36	993	(-)
24	YellowKnight	969	(-)
25	QueenStagiaire	950	(-)
26	Hfgon1	866	(-)
27	SlowClimber	825	(-)
28	Vladimir	749	(-)
29	BluesInTheBottle	677	(-)
30	EvansIsTheBest	583	(-)
31	Josedin	537	(+3)
32	Nevs	521	(+1)
33	Onizuka999	505	(-2)
34	RedheadDane	501	(-2)
35	SamuCuenca	468	(+1)
36	AmisVelo	441	(-1)
37	Rufs	410	(+1)
38	NBFC1962	374	(-1)
	Collective_Wisdom	1427
	Default	1280

The Cepeda cousins did a slower sightseeing tour of Rome at the end, meaning that Wout Poels moved into the final placing on GC that scores anything more than finishing points, so the only significant placement that seemed in any jeopardy gets double the gap of this morning (Del 1962 over DJSprtsch)

Congratulations to Abbulf, who is a relatively recent addition to our gaming circle, but has seemed very enthusuastic, and also to Sam and Del on the podium. Congratulations to Bminchow in the points classification, and to DJW and Abbulf who were on the podium in that.

Thanks to CQ for the system, PCS for the results that I used, whoever invented MS Excel, and to all of you for joining in. I hope you all got at least some kind of minor victory some day.

I'll probably post some number crunching tomorrow, but that aside, see you for Le Tour

del1962 · Sunday at 9:11 PM

Well done Abbulf and thanks to Armchair Cyclist for hosting this game

Samu Cuenca · Sunday at 9:40 PM

Congratulations to the podium people and to our gracious host.

I avoided last place, so mission accomplished.

titan31 · 2025-06-02T00:45:11+0100

I'll take a mid table finish.

Thanks to armchair cyclist for running again

DJW · 2025-06-02T09:36:00+0100

A great edition, both on the road and in the spreadsheet...

Chapeau Abbulf and thanks as always to AC

bminchow · 2025-06-02T14:35:44+0100

Thank goodness for minor classification categories. Woohoo!

DJ Sprtsch · 2025-06-02T14:45:20+0100

That was fun, thanks a lot for running the game!
And what a win by abbulf - almost 300 points more than second place.

Armchair Cyclist · 2025-06-02T19:13:13+0100

Purple points
Rider data

PEDERSEN Mads	330	0 teams
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	258	3
KOOIJ Olav	206	0
GROVES Kaden	170	5
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	160	5
VAN AERT Wout	150	0
TARLING Joshua	110	2
VAN UDEN Casper	110	1
SCARONI Christian	97	1
PRODHOMME Nicolas	90	3
AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto	85	0
HOOLE Daan	82	0
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	81	22
PLAPP Lucas	75	2
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos	75	0
ASGREEN Kasper	70	0
DENZ Nico	70	1
HARPER Chris	70	13
ROGLIC Primoz	62	6
CICCONE Giulio	60	1
YATES Simon	58	23
BARDET Romain	57	1
PIDCOCK Thomas	53	0
ZAMBANINI Edoardo	50	0

Best possible team (if this category were the only ambition)

	Price	Stage pts
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	514	258
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos	122	75
PRODHOMME Nicolas	190	90
PEDERSEN Mads	1607	330
TARLING Joshua	461	110
VAN UDEN Casper	306	110
DENZ Nico	79	70
HARPER Chris	179	70

	3458	1113

They would have scored a not too shoddy 2113 in the overall

1	Bminchow	441	Groves, Ayuso, Plapp, Yates
2	DJW	424	Tarling, Ayuso, Harper, Yates
3	Abbulf	412	Del Toro, Yates
4	Ingsve	404	Van Uden, Ayuso, Harper, Yates
5	Del1962	397	Del Toro, Ayuso, Yates

Armchair Cyclist · 2025-06-02T20:03:08+0100

Overall points
Rider data

Despite Yates being the winner, Del Toro massively outpointed him, not only because of the 180 point difference in pink jersey points

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	843	3
YATES Simon	576	23
PEDERSEN Mads	505	0
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	482	5
GEE Derek	292	4
CARUSO Damiano	269	8
KOOIJ Olav	261	0
PELLIZZARI Giulio	251	0
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	235	19
PRODHOMME Nicolas	205	3
GROVES Kaden	192	5
VAN AERT Wout	190	0
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	172	2
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	171	0
MCNULTY Brandon	163	0
SCARONI Christian	163	1
STORER Michael	148	2
PIDCOCK Thomas	137	0
HARPER Chris	135	13
POOLE Max	131	4
VAN UDEN Casper	130	1
ULISSI Diego	113	0
YATES Adam	113	0
BARDET Romain	112	1
TARLING Joshua	110	2
MAJKA Rafal	107	0
STORK Florian	106	1
TIBERI Antonio	106	15
AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto	101	0
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos	100	0
ZAMBANINI Edoardo	100	0

Best possible team:
It's rare that anyone sends in a team more than 100 points below the budget, but sometimes that's the right thing to do.

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	514	843
YATES Simon	428	576
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	794	482
CARUSO Damiano	170	269
PELLIZZARI Giulio	413	251
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	429	235
PRODHOMME Nicolas	190	205
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	454	172

	3392	3033

They would have won the purple with 683 points
Abbulf therefore scored 65.1 % of the maximum possible, very much in the typical range for a winner.

Riders making a profit (more points from these 3 weeks than the whole of 2024)

	points	teams	price	profit	%age
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	843	3	514	329	164.0
YATES Simon	576	23	428	148	134.6
CARUSO Damiano	269	8	170	99	158.2
PRODHOMME Nicolas	205	3	190	15	107.9
DENZ Nico	85	1	79	6	107.6
KNOX James	70	0	40	30	175.0
EDMONDSON Alexander	25	3	15	10	166.7

This is close to the list of impeccable picks (so if after choosing 7 riders, you still had (eg) more than 39 points left, but fewer than 79, you could not have done better than picking James Knox (which is a lesson to those who picked Affini, Azparren, Bouchard, Bouwman, Castroviejo, Colleoni, Hamilton (l), Pietrobon, Schultz, Tonelli, Vader or Van Baarle))

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac

YATES Simon

CARUSO Damiano

VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos

DENZ Nico

KNOX James

EDMONDSON Alexander

The Collective Wisdom team came in a virtual 8th place: at least it beat the best possible team of those not picked at all, the Collective Ignorance selection (or non-selection)

PEDERSEN Mads	1607	505
KOOIJ Olav	933	261
PELLIZZARI Giulio	413	251
MAJKA Rafal	202	107
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos	122	100
KNOX James	40	70
GAROFOLI Gianmarco	91	62
PLANCKAERT Edward	62	40

Totals

3470

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Armchair Cyclist · 2025-06-02T20:47:56+0100

The winning combination
Abbulf's victorious selection:

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	514	843
YATES Simon	428	576
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	429	235
POOLE Max	610	131
MEINTJES Louis	178	74
SVESTAD-BAARDSENG Embret	134	60
MAGNIER Paul	568	33
BENNETT Sam	560	22

	3421	1974

Top riders in top teams:
Those contributing at least 100 points

1	Abbulf	1974	Del Toro, Yates, Bernal, Poole
2	Sam6	1683	Yates, Carapaz, Caruso, Bernal
3	Del1962	1610	Del Toro, Yates
4	DJSprtsch	1608	Yates, Gee, Caruso, Bernal
5	Hayneplane	1566	Del Toro, Gee, Bernal, Tiberi
6	Leadbelly	1527	Yates, Carapaz, Bernal, Harper

Hard luck table
Expensive picks such as Roglic, Ayuso, Ciccone, Landa and Fretin didn't make it as far as Rome: only three of our teams had all eight men finishing. I count the cost of non finishers as their price minus any stage points they picked up, so by that token our bad luck table is :

AmisVelo	2	2914
DevilsElbow	3	2430
Search	3	2043
Hfgon1	4	1969
NBFC1962	2	1956
SamuCuenca	3	1944
Onizuka999	3	1924
EvansIsTheBest	1	1880
Triley36	1	1880
HiHope	3	1584
Rufs	3	1532
Del1962	2	1508
Sam6	2	1508
Bminchow	4	1488
DJW	2	1385
Armchair_Cyclist	2	1233
Nevs	2	1163
SlowClimber	2	1110
Vladimir	2	1074
LosBrolin	2	1058
BluesInTheBottle	1	1034
DJSprtsch	1	1034
Ingsve	1	1034
JumboVismaFan	1	1034
Kazistuta	1	1034
Madrazo	1	1034
Qazaqstan	1	1034
QueenStagiaire	1	1034
RedheadDane	1	1007
Laarsland	1	973
Abbulf	1	535
Hayneplane	1	474
YellowKnight	1	351
Titan31	1	76
Josedin	1	68
BicycleBoy	0	0
Leadbelly	0	0
Peixotini	0	0
Collective_Wisdom	2	1508
Default	1	351

but while the loss of Roglic was probably terminal, even Ayuso's DNF wouldn't put an end to a teams chances, and 2 of the eventual podium had him. Even with Ayuso, a score of 2676 was possible.

Those who take part in all 3 GT games and the Spring Classics game become entrants in the 4 Seasons competition, this is how we stand at the halfway stage (with change in rank since the Classics)

1	Abbulf	3572	(+10)
2	DJSprtsch	3364	(+3)
3	Ingsve	3139	(+1)
4	DevilsElbow	3113	(-3)
5	Armchair_Cyclist	3096	(+3)
6	Del1962	3083	(+11)
7	DJW	3042	(-)
8	Madrazo	2991	(+2)
9	Laarsland	2934	(-3)
10	Peixotini	2873	(+3)
11	LosBrolin	2720	(+5)
12	SlowClimber	2650	(-9)
13	Triley36	2579	(-1)
14	Leadbelly	2562	(+11)
15	Kazistuta	2560	(+3)
16	Hfgon1	2515	(-8)
17	EvansIsTheBest	2485	(-15)
18	Search	2282	(+3)
19	Bminchow	2280	(+5)
20	Vladimir	2047	(-)
21	BluesintheBottle	2045	(-2)
22	AmisVelo	1977	(-8)
23	SamuCuenca	1960	(-8)
24	QueenStagiaire	1831	(+3)
25	Rufs	1669	(-3)
26	Onizuka999	1615	(-3)
27	NBFC1962	1360	(-1)
28	RedheadDane	1202	(-)
29	Josedin	1088	(-)

	Collective_Wisdom	3431

I think I have milked the spreadsheet for all it's worth there: anything else you dig up, let us know.

See you for the Tour.

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