38th Vuelta a San Juan Internacional (2.1) // 26th of January - 2nd of February 2020

[F_Cance]

I watched the race and couldn't see a spectator causing a crash

It was a spectator. Slow the video down a bit and watch the first UAE rider on the left.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

It was a spectator. Slow the video down a bit and watch the first UAE rider on the left.

You can see a group of people move back and then the crash happens with a delay after a domino effect plays out.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Crash in the breakaway, because a dog was crossing the street.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1221880081133592581

View: https://twitter.com/wcsbike/status/1221880081133592581

 

[Bonimenier]

Laporte broke his wrist during the crash yesterday. Not the best start to a new season.

 

[RedheadDane]

Laporte broke his wrist during the crash yesterday. Not the best start to a new season.

He just wants to give everyone else a chance to nap a few wins.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Laporte broke his wrist during the crash yesterday. Not the best start to a new season.

It has to be the most frustrating thing about being a pro athlete. Injuries over which you have no control.

 

[Breezy1985]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1221880081133592581

View: https://twitter.com/wcsbike/status/1221880081133592581

Gotta say he done his absolute best to try stay on his feet and avoid wiping everyone out in vain sadly but if most of hit a dog I imagine it would have looked much worse.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

For some reason British Eurosport showed yesterday’s stage but isn’t showing today’s one. Somehow that feels more annoying than showing nothing,

 

[RedheadDane]

Nothing to do with the race, but why the roundabouts with no... other roads? Just a way to slow down drivers/keep them alert, or are there other roads being planned?

 

[sir fly]

Why don't they cultivate some vineyards, orchards... any kind of plantations...
Modest scenery, even though better than yesterday.

 

[hayneplane]

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For some reason British Eurosport showed yesterday’s stage but isn’t showing today’s one. Somehow that feels more annoying than showing nothing,

looked at the rest of the week and weirdly stage one was shown live yet at least until Thursday every stage is being shown on delay at around 5pm the day after.

I get that on Eurosport 1 they have the live Aussie Open Grand Slam tennis but on Eurosport 2 in the time slot that San Juan is being raced there is no live action being broadcast of any other sports.

 

[King Boonen]

2.3.035 The following rules shall apply:
5. Any other situation (prolonged closure of the barrier, etc.) shall be resolved by the commissaires.
This article shall apply equally to similar situations (mobile bridges, obstacles on the route, etc.)

That rule is for level crossings and similar obstacles that may cause a split or hold up different bunches of riders.

It’s an enormous stretch to apply it to a crash.


The rule under discussion here is 2.6.027.

 

[sir fly]

Nice camera work.

 

[jaylew]

Nice camera work.

Yes, it was cool to see all the motion and pushing in the last k. Nice win for Gaviria.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Hodeg losing the wheel of his leadout twice.

 

[Bonimenier]

Hodeg losing the wheel of his leadout twice.

He might be a bit scared to take risks after last years crash. But then again Sagan also lost the wheel of his teammates and he is never scared to take risks.

 

[sir fly]

Fairly convincing by Gaviria.
A good, clean, crash-free finish... satisfying day.

 

[GuntherL]

Hodeg losing the wheel of his leadout twice.

His timing is not right. Is it a lack of confidence?

 

[Bonimenier]

Second day in a row that they made the finish unnecessarily risky imo. Yesterday with the confetti and the bend in the last 50m after going straight for 20km. Today it was a nice, wide road which narrows the last 100m. The organisation definitely have room to improve.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

His timing is not right. Is it a lack of confidence?

He was pretty hopeless even before his crash last year, so... i honestly don't know.

 

[hayneplane]

He was pretty hopeless even before his crash last year, so... i honestly don't know.

seems to me that he is clearly very fast hence why he keeps being given opportunity to go for it by DQS but that his racing instincts are way below what is needed to consistently win in the Pro ranks where the margins are so tiny and any mistakes are punished.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

I'm pretty surprised Hodeg is racing already - I thought he'd be starting his season fairly late after his bad injuries

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That rule is for level crossings and similar obstacles that may cause a split or hold up different bunches of riders.

It’s an enormous stretch to apply it to a crash.

The rule under discussion here is 2.6.027.

No, this is not correct. It shows, that even for events not taking place within the final 3k (as was the case here), there are rules rendering the commissaires qualified to take such decisions. Obstacles on the road, can just as easily refer to a dog or a spectator, especially since the rule quoted by Red Flanders was not exclusive. The 3k rule says nothing about eventes taking place outside the 3k.

 

[King Boonen]

No, this is not correct. It shows, that even for events not taking place within the final 3k (as was the case here), there are rules rendering the commissaires qualified to take such decisions. Obstacles on the road, can just as easily refer to a dog or a spectator, especially since the rule quoted by Red Flanders was not exclusive. The 3k rule says nothing about eventes taking place outside the 3k.

You might want to go and read the actual rule and all the bits that were clipped... it’s about level crossings and similar situations. That’s literally what it says. Feel free to try and explain how a dog is similar to a level crossing though...

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

You might want to go and read the actual rule and all the bits that were clipped... it’s about level crossings and similar situations. That’s literally what it says. Feel free to try and explain how a dog is similar to a level crossing though...

Obstacles on the route. That's what it says. The article unfortunately doesn't specify what constitutes an obstacle (or what not), just that whatever applies to crossings and barriers, also applies to obstacles. I consider a dog on the road to be an obstacle. Like i would a cow, or a human or a tree. Basically anything that doesn't belong on the road and is big enough to obstruct a clear passage. A dog is similar to a level crossing, in the sense that as it holds up certain riders, and not others within the same group, it causes a time gap. Which is what this rule is for.