73ª Volta a Portugal 2.1 04/08 - 15/08

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trevim said:
http://www.record.xl.pt/Modalidades/Ciclismo/interior.aspx?content_id=706912

Lampre is in. Maybe Niemiec to destroy the mountains:)
Rabobank isn't in this list but maybe the list isn't final yet. I hope Rabobank-Continental is in, they always seem to put some show. And Geox, the race is suited to many of their riders.

Yeah the economic problems are the big reason (I guess) for the lack of some new places to go. São Macário would be awsome, kind of a Giro stage!
Maybe João Cabreira has a chance too. I'll be cheering for Cardoso and Rui Sousa to win again on the Serra da Estrela.

niemiec is doing poland I suppose. if geox ride it won't be with their a team because of the vuelta, also no andalucia?

edit: andalucia are in.
 
Depends - I assume Geox are doing Burgos, which is the main Vuelta warmup race, but if they aren't, then they could send the big guns to Portugal. Lampre usually send most of their Vuelta team, but they use it solely as a warmup race.

Good for Acqua e Sapone.

Colour me MASSIVELY disappointed in the parcours to Senhora da Graça.

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That's awful. No Alvão, no Campanhõ. In previous years there's always been a proper major climb before it which has broken things up - last year Hernâni Broco went with a teammate on Campanhõ which allowed him to be in the élite bunch for positioning (along with Rui Sousa) on Senhora da Graça, which freed him from a lot of the André Cardoso-inflicted pain.

For comparison - 2009's stage to Mondim de Basto:
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and 2010's:
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Stage 2 to Santo Tirso looks decent but I've always wondered why they don't do a couple of loops of Monte Assunção, it would be perfectly feasible and make the finish a bit tougher - 2009's stage there was pretty exciting with the GC battle already heated up with people needing time back on Ribeiro and Cabreira, but last year's was a bit of much ado about nothing.

I like that they're doing Torre from Seia again, that's the best side. And they're doing most of the other side with Penhas da Saúde anyway - which makes Penhas Douradas much better and tougher too, rather than the waste that is just going over it without Penhas da Saúde.

I'd probably have preferred them going in the opposite direction, however, climbing up to Penhas Douradas from Seia (easy but long), then up to Piornos, down to Covilhã, allowing them to do the other side of Alto Teixeira (long, flattish, Aprica-like), then the Alto do Carrazedo (10,0km, 6,2%) before Torre from Seia. Either way, the obvious queen stage.

The final weekend, which used to have the big MTF and the ITT, is now absolutely dreadful. Two stages which will have no GC impact whatsoever, and I hate them going "hey let's have a sprint in the capital". Cos that's so not totally played out. Give us back our 35km ITTs in Viséu and have the penultimate stage up São Macário. Give us a proper climb before Senhora da Graça. If we're going to finish in Lisbon then give us a penultimate stage up the Alto Montejunto.

Overall, this is a hugely disappointing route. I know that with Portuguese domestic cycling ailing and the need to invite teams, the severe difficulty of the race has been a stumbling block in getting good teams from abroad to ride, but I can't help but feel a bit let down.
 
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I assume the reason the course sucks so hard is because of a lack of money? I think that's also why the spanish races this year had mostly horrible courses
 
oh please not that startlist,no lampre or miche?that sucks...brixia tour will be 1000 times better.
i assume tour de pologne doesn't help either.
and no more barbosa beard :(
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proved to the people that you don't have to be anorexic to climb mountains with 30 km/h...bavarianrider would love this guy.
 
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barbosa in the volta portugal mountains is the biggest joke I've ever seen. he retired because he couldn't clinic himself anymore and his sprint had gotten slower
 
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Parrulo said:
impressive how you managed to beat me to this when i have been checking the volta site everyday for the past month XD

anyway hopefully that part will happen biggest favourite for me is andre cardoso tho. he already was the second best climber last year as a domestic so . . . . but lets not forget broco, sousa and a couple other guys.

also this year they are climbing the torre from seia!!!!! awesome

a shame the amount of economical problems the volta is facing :(

p.s. no lampre nor rabo this year?

Hopefully it won't go the same way as the Portuguese economy is currently heading :(
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
One of the more depressing sights in the Volta's history is Héctor Guerra dragging Cândido's worthless hide up the Alto da Torre in pursuit of Tondó and Jiménez.

Such a farce.

I remmember that!:D

God, I'm so happy those times are gone.

This year, I'm just glad there's a volta at all. Would love to see Andre Cardoso win this. Let's see if he can step up as a leader.
 
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cardoso is really bad in timetrial last few years. also this year seem no improvement, which makes it impossible to win imo
 
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craig1985 said:
Hopefully it won't go the same way as the Portuguese economy is currently heading :(

you need to inform yourself first besides believe in moddys.
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
cardoso is really bad in timetrial last few years. also this year seem no improvement, which makes it impossible to win imo
Broco could then become a favourite, along with Santí (though he always seems to not have it in August after good years). The weak route might make Alejandro Marque think seriously about contending for GC (his climbing seemed vastly improved in Asturias and San Luís), though he may also be sacrificed for João Cabreira, who I absolutely do not want to see anywhere near the race, but I guess seeing the national jersey at the top of the GC would go down quite well with the organisers. Breakaway specialist Sérgio Sousa showed that when he isn't wasting his energy he can be a competitor with his 3rd overall in the Vuelta a Asturias, so perhaps he can reinvent himself as a challenger? If André Cardoso fails, Ricardo Mestre and Nelson Victorino are both more than capable domestiques for him and both have finished in the top 10 before. Rui Sousa will materialise somewhere near the front through attacking, he usually does.

I'm also interested to see how Filipe Cardoso does, and Amaro Antunes if he rides - he dominated the Volta do Futuro a couple of years ago.
trevim said:
The organizer of the race, Joaquim Gomes, said in RTPN that until 2013 there will be no Volta in Algarve and Alentejo. So I guess we'll have the same route (more or less) for the coming years.
Not necessarily, there's plenty of variety they could throw in from the areas they use, including most of the climbs I repeatedly mention.

However, we probably will have more or less the same route. Here's hoping for a return to the ITT on the final day after a big mountain stage on the Saturday, and an end to these crappy Lisboa sprints.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Broco could then become a favourite, along with Santí (though he always seems to not have it in August after good years). The weak route might make Alejandro Marque think seriously about contending for GC (his climbing seemed vastly improved in Asturias and San Luís), though he may also be sacrificed for João Cabreira, who I absolutely do not want to see anywhere near the race, but I guess seeing the national jersey at the top of the GC would go down quite well with the organisers. Breakaway specialist Sérgio Sousa showed that when he isn't wasting his energy he can be a competitor with his 3rd overall in the Vuelta a Asturias, so perhaps he can reinvent himself as a challenger? If André Cardoso fails, Ricardo Mestre and Nelson Victorino are both more than capable domestiques for him and both have finished in the top 10 before. Rui Sousa will materialise somewhere near the front through attacking, he usually does.

I'm also interested to see how Filipe Cardoso does, and Amaro Antunes if he rides - he dominated the Volta do Futuro a couple of years ago.

Not necessarily, there's plenty of variety they could throw in from the areas they use, including most of the climbs I repeatedly mention.

However, we probably will have more or less the same route. Here's hoping for a return to the ITT on the final day after a big mountain stage on the Saturday, and an end to these crappy Lisboa sprints.

sergio sousa to me always seemed more a very strong hilly rider(apart from itt) and not for high climbs but he also surprised me in spain this year.

filip cardoso has turned into a sprinter more
 
Libertine Seguros said:
Broco could then become a favourite, along with Santí (though he always seems to not have it in August after good years). The weak route might make Alejandro Marque think seriously about contending for GC (his climbing seemed vastly improved in Asturias and San Luís), though he may also be sacrificed for João Cabreira, who I absolutely do not want to see anywhere near the race, but I guess seeing the national jersey at the top of the GC would go down quite well with the organisers. Breakaway specialist Sérgio Sousa showed that when he isn't wasting his energy he can be a competitor with his 3rd overall in the Vuelta a Asturias, so perhaps he can reinvent himself as a challenger? If André Cardoso fails, Ricardo Mestre and Nelson Victorino are both more than capable domestiques for him and both have finished in the top 10 before. Rui Sousa will materialise somewhere near the front through attacking, he usually does.

I'm also interested to see how Filipe Cardoso does, and Amaro Antunes if he rides - he dominated the Volta do Futuro a couple of years ago.

Not necessarily, there's plenty of variety they could throw in from the areas they use, including most of the climbs I repeatedly mention.

However, we probably will have more or less the same route. Here's hoping for a return to the ITT on the final day after a big mountain stage on the Saturday, and an end to these crappy Lisboa sprints.
I quite like the stage to Lisboa. If we really need some sprint, why not one there? And I prefer the last decisive stage to be on a mountain, I don't like last day TT. Just a matter of taste though.

Filipe Cardoso seems to me like a sprinter for the selective stages, not a GC contender I guess. Sérgio Sousa....I don't really know, it seems to me that he's not a top climber (even after that nice stage in Asturias(?)).
 
I don't mind the finish in Lisboa. I'm just sick and tired of "final day sprint in the capital!" crap. The Volta has two weekends, and recently has been using the 2nd to have 2 decisive stages, which gives us an exciting finale. This year it's using the final weekend to serve up two flat stages. The GC will be pretty much settled, so it's just wasting our time. Maybe it's a precursor to the race dropping to 9 stages, another humiliation.

I hate final day sprints. Organisers basically giving the péloton a day off to feel smug about finishing the race. Make them race it to the end you bunch of wimps.
 
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c&cfan said:
you need to inform yourself first besides believe in moddys.

I listen to more than Moody's. It's a fact that the economies of several Southern European countries are too flash, but that is getting too OT for this thread and one we should talk about in the cafe :)
 
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trevim said:
Hey about that: why does Colombia gets a 15 stage tour and Portugal don't? Is there any UCI rule or is it about financial circunstances?

uci rules. they are different for south america I think. tachira and venezuela are also 2 weeks and guatemala
 

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