76th Dwars door Vlaanderen: 30 March, 2022

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RedheadDane

RedheadDane

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tobydawq said:
Ja, de nieuwe route is toch jammer. Ik denk het ook. Wil je een lidmaatschap in de nederlandstalige afdeling van the Petulant Whiners United?

Helaas weet ik niet hoe men "petulant" zeggen in het Nederlands :(
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That's it! You're definitely losing your Danish citizenship now. :p
 
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Lequack

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The Tour de France champion makes his debut in the Flemish Ardennes at Dwars door Vlaanderen before chasing his third Monument victory in under a year at the Tour of Flanders on Sunday. On the evidence of his ferocious onslaught on the Poggio at Milan-San Remo, it is clear that Pogačar has not come to Belgium as a tourist.

"I don't know why he is doing these races, but we have seen he is capable in everything he does, so I think he's someone we have to pay attention to in the upcoming races," said Van der Poel.

 
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Pantani_lives

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My guess is that Pogacar will see it as a preparation race, while Van der Poel, as a former winner, might want to win it again.

A group sprint is possible on this course, but that has only happened once in the past ten years.
 
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Netserk

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For those missing a profile:

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Lequack said:
The Tour de France champion makes his debut in the Flemish Ardennes at Dwars door Vlaanderen before chasing his third Monument victory in under a year at the Tour of Flanders on Sunday. On the evidence of his ferocious onslaught on the Poggio at Milan-San Remo, it is clear that Pogačar has not come to Belgium as a tourist.

"I don't know why he is doing these races, but we have seen he is capable in everything he does, so I think he's someone we have to pay attention to in the upcoming races," said Van der Poel.

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That’s kind of a funny quote from MVDP (which I suspect sounds that way because it was a translation). Saying “I don’t know why he’s doing these races” could, with the right intonation be interpreted as “why is he coming here to bother us in our cobbled domaine, can’t he just stay put as king of his GC realm” ;)
 
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KZD said:
I don't see Van der Poel and Pogačar doing anything crazy tomorrow given that de Ronde is already on sunday
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Neither do I but if either is in a position to take the initiative with 40 km left or less, you know they're going to take a dig. They can't help themselves. I just hope MvDP doesn't tweak his back on cobbles. I don't have any particular back issues other than middle age but I avoid cobbles at all costs when I'm riding.
 
Hugo Koblet

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Pantani_lives said:
My guess is that Pogacar will see it as a preparation race, while Van der Poel, as a former winner, might want to win it again.

A group sprint is possible on this course, but that has only happened once in the past ten years.
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Well, it's really hard to compare. The route was drastically rearranged in 2018 and has seen changes again this year. From 2018 on there has been not Paterberg and no Kwaremont and the race was made 25 km shorter. This year they've removed the hardest hill, Taaienberg, and Knokteberg is now the hardest one, but that has been moved 15 km further out from the finish. Overall, a sprint finish should be much more likely now, but I still doubt it will end that way, though.
 
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Red Rick

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fox said:
Only 2 cobbled climbs if you can even call them that. Berg ten houte only has 300m of cobbles and they were recently renewed so they are not that hard. And Nokere you can't really call a climb because you go into it at very high speed and it's over before you know it. The only real cobble section is mariaborre. Really nasty section but too far from the finish line. So we won't be any wiser to see if Pogy has a chance on sunday.
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In dont doubt Pog cause cobblea i doubt him cause I think the hills are too short for him
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
Well, it's really hard to compare. The route was drastically rearranged in 2018 and has seen changes again this year. From 2018 on there has been not Paterberg and no Kwaremont and the race was made 25 km shorter. This year they've removed the hardest hill, Taaienberg, and Knokteberg is now the hardest one, but that has been moved 15 km further out from the finish. Overall, a sprint finish should be much more likely now, but I still doubt it will end that way, though.
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It looks a much softer course than the recent past which does diminish its prestige imo. That said the cliché about the riders attitudes being what makes the race is certainly still true and they can often butcher big Grand Tour Queen stages through passive racing and make days like today much more selective than the parcours would naturally lend themselves to by being aggressive from distance.
 
Samamba

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Israel starting with 3 guys. They have new sick riders every day. God does not want that team in the WT next year.
 
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Unterlenkerfahrend

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If he really is focussing on winning Flanders, I expect Pogacar to underperform today like he always does before his big targets, see Dauphine 2020, Slovenian Nationals 2021, Milano Torino 2021.
But I could also see him just using both races to gain experience for stage 5 of this years Tour and for focussing on cobbled classics in the future.
 
Hugo Koblet

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hayneplane said:
It looks a much softer course than the recent past which does diminish its prestige imo. That said the cliché about the riders attitudes being what makes the race is certainly still true and they can often butcher big Grand Tour Queen stages through passive racing and make days like today much more selective than the parcours would naturally lend themselves to by being aggressive from distance.
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Definitely agree. And I don't see too many teams wanting to bring this back for a sprint - depending on a composition of a break of course and how the race unfolds.

This big sprinters are:
  1. Jakobsen but I don't see QuickStep putting all their eggs in one basket - I assume they will let Lampaert, who has won the race twice, get his own chance
  2. Philipsen but Alpecin also have Van der Poel will lighten up the race
  3. Kooij but Jumbo has Benoot and Teunissen for offensive purposes
  4. Viviani but Ineos will surely let Van Baarle see if he can defend his title
  5. Bennett who hasn't been in good shape and I don't think Bora will work all that hard for him

Then we have sprinters like Kristoff, De Lie and Groenewegen but is that enough to force a sprint? And Lotto will probably ride offensively anyway.
 
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