94th Giro d'Italia May 7 - 29

[Parrulo]

Szymd is more valuable to basso then nibali.
I'm not so sure nibali would want a crazy pace at the start of a climb.

well nibali isn't a very explosive guy either so having a higher pace earlier on the climb could reduce the explosion capacity on other guys attacks (like for example contador) ofc that works better when you are the better climber (if you are a diesel ofc) and nibali won't be the better climber in the giro.

 

[c&cfan]

did i said something about nibali being better then scarponi or menchov? i only said that most people here underrate him . . .

and i think he is on the same level of menchov, anton, scarponi and purito as threats to contador.

menchov is inconsistent
anton crashs a lot
purito loses a lot of time on itt's and its hard to make up that up against climbers like contador
about scarponi i have nothing against him he is consistent knows how to suffer a great climber and one of my fav riders
nibali is very consistent, really knows how to suffer on a bike (bola del mundo) is one of the top descenders in the current peloton and i doubt the rest of the contenders can follow him on a all out descend and has a decent time trial. he also seems to have a great recovering capacity.

for me those guys are all at the same level. some are better climbers but have flaws that make them threats at the same level.

parrulo,

it's funny that you don't even think that someone is going to beat machado.
but i understand, just like everything else you said.

p.s: change the goddamn avatar. you are embarassing the portuguese mafia.

 

[El Pistolero]

No, lessons need to be learned. Never bet against Gilbert

 

[Parrulo]

No, lessons need to be learned. Never bet against Gilbert

actually my bet was against all Belgians and Dutchs

gilbert was the one that made me lose tho <_< damn you gilbert

 

[c&cfan]

actually my bet was against all Belgians and Dutchs

gilbert was the one that made me lose tho <_< damn you gilbert

when can you change that?

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

well nibali isn't a very explosive guy either so having a higher pace earlier on the climb could reduce the explosion capacity on other guys attacks (like for example contador) ofc that works better when you are the better climber (if you are a diesel ofc) and nibali won't be the better climber in the giro.

Oh i know it would benefit him in the fact of reduced explosivness, but without basso I don't see the point of liquigas using szymd like this. This is a very good climbing field.

 

[Parrulo]

the day before the giro starts XD

well a guy like a szymid is always usefull. maybe they plan on having doing a low profile race saving himself as much as possible for the tour and only using him when extremely necessary

 

[c&cfan]

Oh i know it would benefit him in the fact of reduced explosivness, but without basso I don't see the point of liquigas using szymd like this. This is a very good climbing field.

that's also why i can't rate nibali that high (top 5).
it's going to be an amazing show

i'm hoping that this doesn't becomes a game of patience.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

that's also why i can't rate nibali that high (top 5).
it's going to be an amazing show

i'm hoping that this doesn't becomes a game of patience.

they have the sort of field which suggest it wont be. Forsure someone like Menchov will be patient, I can even see ac thinking long term.. week 3 is where this race is decided. Probably the most true this statememnt has ever been.

Hopefully we get fireworks up etna.

 

[Escarabajo]

I think that this Giro is going to be bad for first timers. I mean, who would want to start a GT with the stage profiles from this Giro. It is simply horrendous. The carnage is going to be ugly.

 

[c&cfan]

I think that this Giro is going to be bad for first timers. I mean, who would want to start a GT with the stage profiles from this Giro. It is simply horrendous. The carnage is going to be ugly.

unless you are portuguese.

tiago to win one stage and top 15.

this is all based in facts and logic, i think we can all agree on that.

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this giro, with this field, has the potential to be the best gt ever in any aspect. as a cyclist, who wouldn't want to be part of that?

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

I think that this Giro is going to be bad for first timers. I mean, who would want to start a GT with the stage profiles from this Giro. It is simply horrendous. The carnage is going to be ugly.

Yeah I agree.
Same reason I think someone like Duarte, who struggles to contain himself, is going to be missing in the 3rd week (I don't mean not finish, just really struggle).

All apart of the learning curve tho.
Riders with patience and ride intelligently are probably posied to do better here.

Any rider in the top 20 will have to really work for it.

 

[Bennyl]

i really enjoyed last years Giro

Evans, Vino, Basso, Nibali etc were fairly evenly matched and most stages saw the GC riders having a go, even when not in the high mountains.

I'm not sure whether it will be the same this year and I hope with Contador in the field it won't become a case of waiting till the last few kms of the climbs to see him get out the saddle.

 

[miha1234]

i really enjoyed last years Giro

Evans, Vino, Basso, Nibali etc were fairly evenly matched and most stages saw the GC riders having a go, even when not in the high mountains.

I'm not sure whether it will be the same this year and I hope with Contador in the field it won't become a case of waiting till the last few kms of the climbs to see him get out the saddle.

Giro is not Tour. Fight will begin at the first climb of the stage

 

[rhubroma]

Giro is not Tour. Fight will begin at the first climb of the stage

Indeed, when the parcours is really tough, as in this year's edition, the fireworks should go off in unexpected moments.

The style of the Giro is quite different from the Tour. There's more room for fantasy. And this course could very well be won by the rider who has the most intuitive mind to interpret it best.

Unfortunately, just for the spectacle and entertainment value, this race will be missing one rider who if any thing set off the fireworks: Riccò.

 

[hughmoore]

Indeed, when the parcours is really tough, as in this year's edition, the fireworks should go off in unexpected moments.

The style of the Giro is quite different from the Tour. There's more room for fantasy. And this course could very well be won by the rider who has the most intuitive mind to interpret it best.

Unfortunately, just for the spectacle and entertainment value, this race will be missing one rider who if any thing set off the fireworks: Riccò.

Wher is Ricco at the moment?



Hugh

 

[rhubroma]

Wher is Ricco at the moment?



Hugh

Good question. Who knows? The last I heard, in the Gazzetto dello Sport, was that he was training again and looking for a sponsor. But I think he's probably finished.

Though nothing in this sport would surprise me.

 

[dlwssonic]

is mosquera stil racing or is he suspended for doping

 

[Eshnar]

There's a consistent rumour saying that in 2013 (or 2014) the Giro will feature an MTF to the top of Stentaria... This is a climb starting at Ovaro (!) that is now little more than a mule track, but it seems the Friuli region has already decided to resurface it. Unfortunately there's not a complete altimetry af that climb, I found only the first 6 Km (here). The climb continues up to 1850 m of altitude... in 3.2 km of lenght (!!!). The climb is on the opposite versant of the valley respect to Zoncolan and Crostis, they're both perfectly visible from the top of that.

 

[lucybears]

is mosquera stil racing or is he suspended for doping

neither
PRESS RELEASE-EZEQUIEL MOSQUERA
http://www.velofutur.es/noticias/2011/04/28/press-release-ezequiel-mosquera/

 

[lucybears]

There's a consistent rumour saying that in 2013 (or 2014) the Giro will feature an MTF to the top of Stentaria... This is a climb starting at Ovaro (!) that is now little more than a mule track, but it seems the Friuli region has already decided to resurface it. Unfortunately there's not a complete altimetry af that climb, I found only the first 6 Km (here). The climb continues up to 1850 m of altitude... in 3.2 km of lenght (!!!). The climb is on the opposite versant of the valley respect to Zoncolan and Crostis, they're both perfectly visible from the top of that.

La Stentaria lleva hasta la "cima della Forcella Forchia" a 1.835 metros de altitud. La subida es de 10,5 kilometros, con partes no asfaltadas, y su pendiente media llega al 16%. Como máximo tendria pendientes de hasta el... 28% en su parte final.
The Stentaria leads to the "top della Forcella Forchia" at 1,835 meters altitude. The climb is 10.5 km, with parts not paved, and the average slope reaches 16%. Would have maximum gradients of up to ... 28% at its end.
http://www.itinerarifriuli.com/inde...ile-da-ovaro&catid=53:alpi-carniche&Itemid=26

 

[Eshnar]

La Stentaria lleva hasta la "cima della Forcella Forchia" a 1.835 metros de altitud. La subida es de 10,5 kilometros, con partes no asfaltadas, y su pendiente media llega al 16%. Como máximo tendria pendientes de hasta el... 28% en su parte final.
The Stentaria leads to the "top della Forcella Forchia" at 1,835 meters altitude. The climb is 10.5 km, with parts not paved, and the average slope reaches 16%. Would have maximum gradients of up to ... 28% at its end.
http://www.itinerarifriuli.com/inde...ile-da-ovaro&catid=53:alpi-carniche&Itemid=26

well, that is wrong.
10.5 Kms at 16% ==> more than 1600 m of dislevel.
1835m-500m(ovaro) = 1324.
So that must refer to some section.

 

[Eshnar]

btw, the official Giro page says the total lenght of the course is 3524 kms... wasn't the UCI limit at 3500?? Zomegnan coup d'etat?

 

[Parrulo]

btw, the official Giro page says the total lenght of the course is 3524 kms... wasn't the UCI limit at 3500?? Zomegnan coup d'etat?

more like zomegnan doesn't giving a flying f*ck about the uci rules XD

 

[lucybears]

neither
PRESS RELEASE-EZEQUIEL MOSQUERA
http://www.velofutur.es/noticias/2011/04/28/press-release-ezequiel-mosquera/

Press release - The UCI requests the opening of disciplinary proceedings against Ezequiel Mosquera
http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...es/UCI/UCI5/layout.asp?MenuID=MTYxNw&LangId=1