97th Liège-Bastogne-Liège 2011

[Bavarianrider]

That's the thing, if he's going to surprise that means he's not a favourite, and that's what those asterisks are for.

He will suprsie the cycling fanboys, not the experts.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

He will suprsie the cycling fanboys, not the experts.

So you're calling yourself an expert? enlighten me oh great cycling oracle!

 

[Bavarianrider]

Enlighten me, what has Tony ever done in a one day race to compare him to Andy and Fränk?

Well he never tried to shine in the classics before. But physically there are not more then ten riders who can keep up with him. WE'll see tomorrow.

 

[Bavarianrider]

As for Tony Martin:
“In cycling, only the Tour de France counts. I would like to bring in a stage win there and ride into the top ten.” (Tony Martin quote from this article)
The rider who made such a shameful quote can't contend for the real races with LBL being one of them

He meant that in the general public opinion only the Tour counts.

 

[The Hitch]

As for Tony Martin:
“In cycling, only the Tour de France counts. I would like to bring in a stage win there and ride into the top ten.” (Tony Martin quote from this article)
The rider who made such a shameful quote can't contend for the real races with LBL being one of them

Wow. Thats some shamefull **** right there.

 

[boomcie]

Martin will be dropped tomorrow, like a penguin from an airplane. That's not even a prediction, that's just something you know will happen.

 

[Bavarianrider]

So you're calling yourself an expert? enlighten me oh great cycling oracle!

No i am not calling myself an expert.
But many who have the right to call them experts have Tony on their lists for tomorrow.

 

[boomcie]

No i am not calling myself an expert.
But many who have the right to call them experts have Tony on their lists for tomorrow.

On top of Kirby's list I heard.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Both editions Vino won, he wasn't the strongest in the race. Sunday, he won't be either. In 2010 Gilbert, Evans and Valverde were the strongest. In 2005 Boogerd would have iced him amongst others. Mano-a-mano.

And now please stop referring to the one on one misunderstanding. Juvenile stuff.

Gilbert was the strongest. Valverde, when chasing with Evans and Gilbert, didn't pull as hard as the others.

Tony Martin is not remotely punchy and these short sharp climbs do not suit him but what do I know? I said Gilbert wasn't a chance in fleche on wednesday.

 

[hrotha]

No i am not calling myself an expert.
But many who have the right to call them experts have Tony on their lists for tomorrow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

 

[Bavarianrider]

On top of Kirby's list I heard.

 

[The Hitch]

No i am not calling myself an expert.
But many who have the right to call them experts have Tony on their lists for tomorrow.

Who? Names.

 

[roundabout]

To be honest, I am now genuinly interested to know who are the experts tipping Martin to do well .

 

[will10]

Martin will be dropped tomorrow, like a penguin from an airplane. That's not even a prediction, that's just something you know will happen.

Do you have any sources of anyone ever dropping a penguin from an aeroplane?

 

[boomcie]

Who? Names.

To be honest, I am now genuinly interested to know who are the experts tipping Martin to do well .

Besides Kirby, I'm thinking Johan Museeuw here.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Gilbert was the strongest. Valverde, when chasing with Evans and Gilbert, didn't pull as hard as the others.

Tony Martin is not remotely punchy and these short sharp climbs do not suit him but what do I know? I said Gilbert wasn't a chance in fleche on wednesday.

http://www.rad-net.de/index.php?newsid=22951

Quote by Rolf Aldag "We are in a position to win bike races. Tony is in good shape, Liege would only be the logical consequence"

 

[hrotha]

http://www.rad-net.de/index.php?newsid=22951

Quote by Rolf Aldag "We are in a position to win bike races. Tony is in good shape, Liege would only be the logical consequence"

Oh, his DS. OK then!

 

[auscyclefan94]

This will be the first year in many that I will miss the Anzac Day Dawn Service because of Liege being on early that morning. The things you do for cycling...

BavarianRider, Ralf Aldag can say that all he likes but doesn't mean he is right. Tony hasn't done anything that proves to me that he will be competitive in this race.

 

[boomcie]

Do you have any sources of anyone ever dropping a penguin from an aeroplane?

No sir I have not.
But those guys tend drop in funny ways.

 

[theyoungest]

http://www.rad-net.de/index.php?newsid=22951

Quote by Rolf Aldag "We are in a position to win bike races. Tony is in good shape, Liege would only be the logical consequence"

It's good that Aldag became a DS, and not a logician.

 

[Bavarianrider]

It's good that Aldag became a DS, and not a logician.

Keep in mind that Tony dominated teh Ardennes satge at Enecom Tour last year

 

[boomcie]

Keep in mind that Tony dominated teh Ardennes satge at Enecom Tour last year

And in the Eneco Tour as well.

 

[theyoungest]

Keep in mind that Tony dominated teh Ardennes satge at Enecom Tour last year

The stage won by Andre Greipel, you mean?

 

[The Hitch]

Look mate, if you want to support a Germman cyclist with an anglophile first name and a surname that begins with Mart, then Der Panzerwagen isnt your best choice.

 

[theyoungest]

Look mate, if you want to support a Germman cyclist riding for an American team with an anglophile first name and a surname that begins with Mart, then Der Panzerwagen isnt your best choice.

John Martenkolb?