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A. Schleck and O'Grady thrown out of Vuelta

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As a Contador fan, I'm happy with the development of Andy's story in the Vuelta. Crawling on the road, crawling on his way back to the hotel :D

Congratulations, Andy! Welcome to the Ulrich's club :D
 

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auscyclefan94 said:
What a bunch of moron's! Especially dissapointed in O'grady.

Agreed. Whatever the excuses they gave or will give, the fact is that they are professional riders, competing in a GT. They have let their manager, their team and the sponsors who pay their wages down badly.

Some idiots on here obviously think that it is okay to exhibit this sort of behaviour when in fact all Schleck and O'Grady have done is show utmost disrespect for their team and the race itself.

I am also particularly disappointed in O'Grady who I thought was a lot more professional in his approach to his sport.
 
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SpartacusRox said:
I am also particularly disappointed in O'Grady who I thought was a lot more professional in his approach to his sport.

This is supposed to be serious training time for Worlds for O'Grady, so yeah, it looks bad. Schlecklet can still race Lombardia but I wouldn't expect much.

And if Cycling News and Sporten.dk have it right, Schleck made it worse by lying in a statement to the press. That means he has no respect for anybody, including his fans.
 
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Wergeland said:
hmm.. according to this: http://www.sporten.dk/cykling/saxo-bank-schleck-var-stangstiv

Stewie and Andy camo home at 5.30 in the morning. Both were very drunk. Their source is a "high-ranking" guy within the team.

Sorry, I came here straight from a long Google News search and didn't page back on the thread. I wasn't trying to steal your link.

For others, the story there is a three parter, with one about the drinking and one with Riis talking about the riders and their future.
 
icefire said:
According to this

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2010/09/07/ciclismo/1283882066.html

late return of the Saxo guys to the hotel after dinner was a rumour running high in the Vuelta field every day not only this year, but also in 2009. Fabo is also named as a frequent latecomer but at least he did his job on the road taking care of Fränk and trying to place him in the best position before dropping the contenders group.

Wasnt there a thread recently where someone said Pedro Delgado was making jokes about how Cancellara and co were out drinking during the Tour of California?
 
Frosty said:
Wasnt there a thread recently where someone said Pedro Delgado was making jokes about how Cancellara and co were out drinking during the Tour of California?
Yes, that was me, and none of you punks got the joke :(

(Delgado didn't mention the Tour of California, actually, but he did mention the 2009 Vuelta)
 
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what a joke. Riis is imo the worst of the directors. Such a power hungry sore loser who is trying to create a legacy in others after being a faliure and cheat.

You dont kick out ur best rider from the veulta for a small thing like that.

drinking after a race... honestly...
 
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the_kman said:
what a joke. Riis is imo the worst of the directors. Such a power hungry sore loser who is trying to create a legacy in others after being a faliure and cheat.

You dont kick out ur best rider from the veulta for a small thing like that.

drinking after a race... honestly...

The story from a couple of sources is that they hit the hotel at 5:30 AM after a drinking spree, when they had to report for the stage less than seven hours later. Sleep, detox, shower, breakfast, etc. in seven hours?

And the "best rider" was in 77th place, 37' 16" back. I doubt he would have improved on that today.
 
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the_kman said:
what a joke. Riis is imo the worst of the directors. Such a power hungry sore loser who is trying to create a legacy in others after being a faliure and cheat.

You dont kick out ur best rider from the veulta for a small thing like that.

drinking after a race... honestly...

He didn't kick out his best rider.

He kicked out Schleck the Younger and O'Grady.

You need to catch up.
 
the_kman said:
what a joke. Riis is imo the worst of the directors. Such a power hungry sore loser who is trying to create a legacy in others after being a faliure and cheat.

You dont kick out ur best rider from the veulta for a small thing like that.

drinking after a race... honestly...

One moment he´s the best dir. and the next hes the worst.
(not many weeks since Andy & Frank was out and saying in the media, that Bjarne was the best Dir. they have ever met, and they owed Bjarne Riis everything.)

Come on..
I would also haved like to see Andy on tomorrows stage.

But i got full understanding for Bjarnes decission.

That is what Saxo bank is all about.
Respect for each other.
and everybody is there 100 % for each other.

Riis and saxo bank have spend så much time on trips and survivel tours and on and on and on.
To get that ultra tight internal respect, so the riders really are ready to work and give them self 100 % for there teamfellows.
thats why we thrue many years have seen topriders like Fabian (one of the biggest in the peloton) eating his own **** with full pedal up a mountain, to help his captain like Sastre (hes winning year) and also Andy and Frank.

And they same with the others riders like Jens Voight and so on..

many of that **** is from a ultra tight fellowsship-group on team saxo bank, and the team with the strongest rules and dopingtests.

Its not up too the riders to jugde what is a small thing, and what is a big thing, when broking the rules.

All the vejl. rules shall be follow 100 % in these few weeks , when they battle on top of the world, and they also get paid very well to be 100 % on top of there game in these few weeks..

is all about first or second..:cool:

That ultra tight fellowship, we have seen thrue-out years on CSC / Saxo bank, i guess is also the reason why Contador have chosen that Team Saxo-Bank is the team he would like to be a part of..

U can bet your ***, that its Contador that chosen his team, and what team he would like to be a part of.
Off course he has all the power and can chose what ever topteam he would like..
 
amp300 said:
About time we have a non-doping 'scandal' to talk about. Beergate it is!

Just from last few months:

Mick Rogers getting kicked off the tour?

Dangerous Giro route while in the Netherlands

Cancellara appointing himself general director of the Tour de France, costing Hushovd sprint points.

Cavs victory celebration at Romandie

Cav "coincidentally" taking out Boonen and Haussler for the season with a crash

and, far far bigger than "beergate"
The moment the Tour was lost - Andy Schlecks chain problems and the decision of his opponents not to wait?
 

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What everybody has appeared to miss in all of this is Andy accepted Riis's decision.

Why would you accept a sanction from your employer without protest - in particular when you are leaving to a new team?

Firstly - having a drink (even a few) is not uncommon - even during a GT.
However staying up late is frowned upon.

In this incident - I think Riis is telling the truth and was right and whatever about Schleck, O'Grady should have known better.
 
Dr. Maserati said:
What everybody has appeared to miss in all of this is Andy accepted Riis's decision.

Why would you accept a sanction from your employer without protest - in particular when you are leaving to a new team?

Firstly - having a drink (even a few) is not uncommon - even during a GT.
However staying up late is frowned upon.

In this incident - I think Riis is telling the truth and was right and whatever about Schleck, O'Grady should have known better.

Just a suggestion, but Andys lack of protest may be because he still would like Frank to do well at the Vuelta so has decided that there is no need to increase the damage. Riis could, if Andy provoked him sabotage Franks Vuelta. Also a big Schleck vs Riis conflict would hurt Franks chances as well.
 
The Hitch said:
Just a suggestion, but Andys lack of protest may be because he still would like Frank to do well at the Vuelta so has decided that there is no need to increase the damage. Riis could, if Andy provoked him sabotage Franks Vuelta. Also a big Schleck vs Riis conflict would hurt Franks chances as well.

come on..

do you really think that Riis would sabotage his own captain chance for getting a Vuelta victory to his team.
(the team is created for Frank)

You clearly havent thought this thrue.-:cool:

and you have clearly miss what the Saxo bank is all about and why they have been the topteam for many years..