A Sherwen howler .........

[nowhereman]

You are right. that should be even Eddy Merckx would admit that Lance Armstrong was the greatest cyclists ever..."

I dont know how he could have stuffed up like that.

Oh, Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho!!! Sorry it took a while, but I've got a life too, so I caught up , just about, NOW! And You're hilarious! If I may ask....What is it, that you are Stoned on????

 

[nowhereman]

Do you think Roll, Sherwen and Liggett notice how pathetic they've become?

I mean... even to fans... there's a certain a$$-kissing you can allow yourself before you hit the wall and notice that you're someone else's bítch.

I remember watching Ligget's videos on past Tour winners and always though he was both, a very knowledgeable comentator and, best of all, neutral. His fanboy attitude has destroyed all the work he's done throughout these years IMO.

A+ You are right on the money! I wonder if they're so buried in their own manure, that they will ever be able to look back, and see how unprofessional they've sounded in '09 and '10. They should be ashamed of themselves, but I know they're not. But, if we can bear the burden, this tune is going to change soon, and it will be interesting to see how they change with it. (though I'm sure nothing will change Bobke's inane ramblings, nothing.)

 

[BullsFan22]

You guys should have known this already! If you haven't, then you either have forgotten or have watched Versus for the first time! Back in the LA glory years, they were constantly force feeding the audience with the LA stories 24/7. Let's face it, OLN/Versus was/is/always will be a patriotic US outdoors channel that will pretty much talk about Lance or any other contender from the States. I am actually surprised they kept covering the TDF in detail 2006-2008! I believe that either Sherwen or Liggett, or both, are pretty close with Armstrong, so there is no reason for them not too talk about him 24/7. Whatever one says, they will not change their opinions. The fact that a disturbing number of former LA's teammates have been involved with some sort of doping, and that the Versus crew have generally ignored such stories is worrisome. I have mentioned this in my previous posts on the whole doping debacle, and this isn't the thread for that, so I won't go into any significant detail, but Armstrong has as much of a presence in American sports and media, that no matter what happens, he is well protected. Naturally, you can expect Versus to keep shoving LA into our throats/heads, lol.

 

[Dewulf]

soooo right wonderlance...he took those 5 seconds from A.C and I raised my fist in the air...First blood is what Phil and Paul told me and my god I believe it!

yes, ironically i'm pretty sure i thought i heard either Phil or Paul say "he only lost a few seconds to Contador in the prologue" yesterday


erm, that might have been what they expected but aint the way it happened...

 

[pedaling squares]

My feeling is that Phil is in the early stages of dementia or alzheimers actually...he always calls it wrong on small matters like who is who and Paul is there to sorta straighten him out...

That's one of the more frustrating but entertaining parts about Phil. Saying a rider is launching an attack when he's dropping off the bunch; saying that Lance didn't get hooked by a fan's mussette on La Mongie, he had a problem with a pedal; saying at the end of last TDF's TTT that there were no problems between Armstrong and Contador, it was "all about the team." Funny stuff.

I believe that either Sherwen or Liggett, or both, are pretty close with Armstrong, so there is no reason for them not too talk about him 24/7.

Don't know about Paul, but Phil has take part in some charity rides with Armstrong. They seem to have a personal/professional relationship outside of their commentator/cyclist relationship.

 

[Ripper]

Do you think Roll, Sherwen and Liggett notice how pathetic they've become?

I mean... even to fans... there's a certain a$$-kissing you can allow yourself before you hit the wall and notice that you're someone else's bítch.

I remember watching Ligget's videos on past Tour winners and always though he was both, a very knowledgeable comentator and, best of all, neutral. His fanboy attitude has destroyed all the work he's done throughout these years IMO.

Phil's not so knowledgeable know. He's always getting things mixed up. Tour of Slovenia vs. the Tour de Suisse ... what's the difference?

 

[Runitout]

That's one of the more frustrating but entertaining parts about Phil. Saying a rider is launching an attack when he's dropping off the bunch; saying that Lance didn't get hooked by a fan's mussette on La Mongie, he had a problem with a pedal; saying at the end of last TDF's TTT that there were no problems between Armstrong and Contador, it was "all about the team." Funny stuff.



Don't know about Paul, but Phil has take part in some charity rides with Armstrong. They seem to have a personal/professional relationship outside of their commentator/cyclist relationship.

He did have trouble clipping back in, though, iirc. And it was Luz Ardiden.

 

[Kender]

Not sure about you guys, but here in New Zealand and most likely Australia there is a guy called Matt Keenan who calls the race before the Terrible Twosome arrive. he's been calling the race now for about 4 years and he has got better and better every year. He does a fantastic job considering he is a solo act. I actually wish they'd let him call the entire race


here is an article for him from 2008 for those of you who are interested. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/new...commentary-box-for-tour-de-france/802477.aspx

 

[pedaling squares]

He did have trouble clipping back in, though, iirc. And it was Luz Ardiden.

Right! Thanks, wrong mountain. Yes he did have trouble clipping back in and stumbled shortly after getting off the ground. Actually, not a bad example of bike handling. But it was funny to hear Phil in a tizzy getting his facts wrong while Paul was more calm and seemed to have it right. We all make errors but considering his many decades in the sport Phil sure seems to get it wrong a lot. Nonetheless I used to find him very entertaining and loved his passion for the sport. Sadly, no longer.

 

[SpartacusRox]

Are you guys going to whine and complain about VS. ball licking for 3 weeks or are you going to do the logical thing and turn down the volume?

Personally I don't know why people get so wound up over Phil and Paul. yeah they make some gaffs but so what, just laugh it off. If you don't agree with them on a particular point, does it really matter, it's only their opinion. I admire them for being able to keep the commentary going over several boring hours of a flat stage, even if they do repeat themselves. At least Sherwin has been there and done it which is more than 99.9% of the posters on here could say.

Some guys on here take things a little too seriously.

 

[Martin318is]

Ignoring my distaste for their Armstrong fanaticism for the moment and just talking about the gaffs:

Just think of Phil as being the cycling incarnation of Murray Walker (former F1 commentatory for those that don't get the reference). People used to laugh at him more and more as he got older and less cohesive - but does anyone remember how dull the coverage was after he retired?

There are positives and negatives with these guys. At least when the road is pan flat and dull you can rely upon them to say something stupid to entertain you.

 

[SpartacusRox]

Actually the biggest Sherwin howler of the day for me was when he said that he felt that the responsibility for the TdS crash rested about 50/50 between Cav and Hausler! Yeah good one Paul!!

But rather than rage about it it's easier to just laugh and move on.

In the words of the great Ivan Basso....'serenity is key'; learn that grasshopper's and you will have an enjoyable 3 weeks of Tour watching

 

[Cordon Bleu]

Phil said they were in France today. Anyone else notice that?

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Bbc

Watch it on TV with the sound down and listen to the last hour live on the BBC website. Not sure who the commentators are but its got to be worth a go...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/6155366.stm

 

[Hitchey]

That's one of the more frustrating but entertaining parts about Phil. Saying a rider is launching an attack when he's dropping off the bunch;
Don't know about Paul, but Phil has take part in some charity rides with Armstrong. They seem to have a personal/professional relationship outside of their commentator/cyclist relationship.

If you're referring to the key mtn stage in Td Suisse, when LA was getting dropped, the camera had just panned back in, and he was about 4 or 5 bike lengths off the bunch with if I recall one of the Schlecks on his wheel. You hear Paul chime in with how great LA was for doing his share of the work, when he looked to be getting dropped. I about hit the floor. Maybe he just ejected Paul out his rear end and lost some dead weight as Paul was sucking so forcefully.

Charity rides together, that helps explain it.

 

[Mont Ventoux]

RIP objective reporting

It really is the "Phil & Paul present Le Tour de Lance" show.
And it's get's worse with each passing year.
Got to agree, Paul is there to rescue Phil from the mounting
mistakes he's making.
And the uniballer worshiping is oh so painful to hear, and when the commentary gives way to commercials, it's the uniballer ad campain all over again!!
Such narrow minds running versus, focussed only on uniballer and the fraud that he is.

Phil's better days are behind him, and balanced objective commentary died when he met uniballer for that first Texan breakfast.

But look on the bright side, no Lance in France in Eleven!!!

 

[SpartacusRox]

It really is the "Phil & Paul present Le Tour de Lance" show.
And it's get's worse with each passing year.
Got to agree, Paul is there to rescue Phil from the mounting
mistakes he's making.
And the uniballer worshiping is oh so painful to hear, and when the commentary gives way to commercials, it's the uniballer ad campain all over again!!
Such narrow minds running versus, focussed only on uniballer and the fraud that he is.

Phil's better days are behind him, and balanced objective commentary died when he met uniballer for that first Texan breakfast.

But look on the bright side, no Lance in France in Eleven!!!

You are trying to hide it, but we know you really love LA...go on, admit it! Lance winning his 9th at 40, you would love that.

 

[Kender]

Phil said they were in France today. Anyone else notice that?

i did heh i was like huh?

 

[El Imbatido]

It really is the "Phil & Paul present Le Tour de Lance" show.
And it's get's worse with each passing year.
Got to agree, Paul is there to rescue Phil from the mounting
mistakes he's making.
And the uniballer worshiping is oh so painful to hear, and when the commentary gives way to commercials, it's the uniballer ad campain all over again!!
Such narrow minds running versus, focussed only on uniballer and the fraud that he is.

Phil's better days are behind him, and balanced objective commentary died when he met uniballer for that first Texan breakfast.

But look on the bright side, no Lance in France in Eleven!!!

I mostly agree with Paul usually saving Phil but occasionally he blows his load over armstrong as well. Perfect example. Watch the clip and just notice how much he mentions how good Armstrong is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtZhG2kWVLY

Sluurp, sluuuuurp!

 

[Señor_Contador]

I mostly agree with Paul usually saving Phil but occasionally he blows his load over armstrong as well. Perfect example. Watch the clip and just notice how much he mentions how good Armstrong is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtZhG2kWVLY

Sluurp, sluuuuurp!

O-H

M-Y

G-O-D

And we still have another two and a half weeks of this shít?

If that isn't a mancrush (borderline homosexual if you ask me) I do not know what is.

 

[Race Radio]

Latest stupidity from the pre-race show

Phil the muppet:

People like Contador have never faced these cobbles before, clever people like Armstrong know what they are all about

Idiot. What does racing Flanders have to do with Paris Roubaix? If Armstrong is so cleaver why did he ride in the gutter where all the broken stones are? Why did he ride deep dish carbon wheels? Guess he isn't so clever.

 

[Anonymous]

Latest stupidity from the pre-race show

Phil the muppet:



Idiot. What does racing Flanders have to do with Paris Roubaix? If Armstrong is so cleaver why did he ride in the gutter where all the broken stones are? Why did he ride deep dish carbon wheels? Guess he isn't so clever.

There are a lot of cobbles in Flanders but they are nothing like P-R.

I know you know that but I'm not sure others do.

 

[Sydney Sider]

Its actually funny how bad Ligget is , he barely gets a rider right anymore and when there is nothing to do just talk bout Lance , the scary thing is i dont think he is getting mentioned any more now than during the Tours while he was retired.

I need a choice where i can choose to listen to Keenan who is bareable

 

[ManInFull]

Latest stupidity from the pre-race show

Phil the muppet:



Idiot. What does racing Flanders have to do with Paris Roubaix? If Armstrong is so cleaver why did he ride in the gutter where all the broken stones are? Why did he ride deep dish carbon wheels? Guess he isn't so clever.

It's all about Lance being "Clever" and Contador being inexperienced, stupid, unprepared, etc. They are somewhat more objective when Lance isn't in the TdF. Of course, then they rave about other American cyclists who have no chance at a high GC finish.

 

[ManInFull]

It really is the "Phil & Paul present Le Tour de Lance" show.
And it's get's worse with each passing year.
Got to agree, Paul is there to rescue Phil from the mounting
mistakes he's making.
And the uniballer worshiping is oh so painful to hear, and when the commentary gives way to commercials, it's the uniballer ad campain all over again!!
Such narrow minds running versus, focussed only on uniballer and the fraud that he is.

Phil's better days are behind him, and balanced objective commentary died when he met uniballer for that first Texan breakfast.

But look on the bright side, no Lance in France in Eleven!!!

It's clearly a ratings issue. If 20-30% of the viewers watching it only for Lance will stick around for other races and subsequent Tours, we'll get more objectivity out of our commentators.