Agreement to not test LA on Ironman?

[doolols]

There's some guy on Twitter who says:

WTC has signed a contract that they won't doping test Armstrong to get him to start in their races

Rumour? Lie? Anyone know anything?

There's also a rumour that the top 3 finishers in Panama weren't tested, but from 4th down finishers were picked at random.

 

[Race Radio]

Top three were not tested, 4th and some randoms. Very usual.

4th place, Rasmus Henning wrote

Rasmus Henning @rasmushenning
I thought it was common practice to drug test Top3 and not just random from 4th and down? That was not the case at 70.3 Panama.

There is no doping in Tri and tests are for the little people

 

[Zoncolan]

Sad to say I'm not surprised.
LA bends the rules again.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Damn!
An outrage....it's time to do something about his in-your-face cra*.

 

[doolols]

Apparently, this story is "widely reported in the Danish media".

Can anyone confirm?

 

[Race Radio]

I can not think of other times where you have not tested the top 3, but only from 4 down, as was the case today. It may have been a coincidence, but overall it is disappointing, if not top 3 is tested in all competitions, the organizers keep the prize money back in 2-3 months until there are answers to the sample, and top 3 pick 75 percent of prize money, so it makes no sense,

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/anden_sport/article1707550.ece

 

[The Hitch]

If La is doping at 40 to win triathlon events then he is out of his mind,

I can see why someone would do it to win 7 Tours but after youve achieved that to do it in retirement for temporary satisfaction. With all the risks that come with that. Nuts.

 

[doolols]

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/anden_sport/article1707550.ece

Yeah, I've just read that too. Yet another piece of weirdness surrounding the great man. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

I can see why someone would do it to win 7 Tours but after youve achieved that to do it in retirement for temporary satisfaction. With all the risks that come with that. Nuts.

Well, for someone who is hooked on being a star, and excelling at *everything* he does, then it makes perfect sense. He has to beat everyone, fight against the odds to win. His life needs to match his persona.

 

[Neworld]

If La is doping at 40 to win triathlon events then he is out of his mind,

I can see why someone would do it to win 7 Tours but after youve achieved that to do it in retirement for temporary satisfaction. With all the risks that come with that. Nuts.

No that would be 'nut', and tacit with reference to him.

There should be a new thread ... "what would shock you about Lance?"

NW

 

[doolols]

There's an interesting bit on the history of Ironman, and the agreement between LA (or the Foundation, or Live$trong, or whatever) and the World Triathlon Corporation HERE

 

[LarryBudMelman]

If La is doping at 40 to win triathlon events then he is out of his mind,

I can see why someone would do it to win 7 Tours but after youve achieved that to do it in retirement for temporary satisfaction. With all the risks that come with that. Nuts.

Yo, he's doping for the hookers too! And not just blow...

LeMond made the diagnosis 2 or 3 years ago. Sociopath...

 

[doolols]

LeMond made the diagnosis 2 or 3 years ago. Sociopath...

Ha! http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
Grandiose Sense of Self
Pathological Lying
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
Shallow Emotions
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility

as well as

Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

Sound like anyone you know?

 

[stainlessguy1]

Mr. Perfect

WEll , just one thought comes to mind.

I would like Mr. Perfect to explain to the DA when they come around for their second round of infractions relating Doping . Why ? Mr. Perfect does the most tested athlete of all times , need to have special treatment now , during retirement to have a clause that would allow him to be immune form any drug testing during the Ironman. ?

 

[doolols]

need to have special treatment now , during retirement to have a clause that would allow him to be immune form any drug testing during the Ironman.

At the moment, that just seems to be a rumour, although the statement from Rasmus Henning, who finished 4th, appears to back it up. No testing for first 3.

 

[Neworld]

At the moment, that just seems to be a rumour, although the statement from Rasmus Henning, who finished 4th, appears to back it up. No testing for first 3.

Love this quote from a reporter at stuff.co.nz

...it was Docherty's first half Ironman in 12 years.

"This is absolutely awesome," he said.

"That was one hard race. I wasn't too sure what to expect, but Lance really pushed me. I should probably sit down."

Armstrong appeared unhappy to have been passed by the Kiwi, walking straight past Docherty without congratulating him shortly after crossing the finish line.

Like a petulant child.

NW

 

[doolols]

Love this quote from a reporter at stuff.co.nz
Like a petulant child.

I'll bet he thought he was going to win it. I wonder how soon the accusations about doping in New Zealand start to come out?

More on the sociopath thing: remember Phil Liggett and the "Lance looked me in the eye, and said ..."

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

I wonder if LA will pass this over to Phil: "See what they're saying about me now?"

 

[Ferminal]

Armstrong didn't test positive for many years at the back end of his career(s), surely a drug test in a tri wouldn't be a problem, even if he were doping?

 

[Race Radio]

If La is doping at 40 to win triathlon events then he is out of his mind,

I can see why someone would do it to win 7 Tours but after youve achieved that to do it in retirement for temporary satisfaction. With all the risks that come with that. Nuts.

Why would he not? The rules have not applied to Lance for 20 years, why would he think they do now?

 

[131313]

If La is doping at 40 to win triathlon events then he is out of his mind,

I can see why someone would do it to win 7 Tours but after youve achieved that to do it in retirement for temporary satisfaction. With all the risks that come with that. Nuts.

You disappoint me Hitch, and do a disservice to your screen name inspiration. You should really be more cynical!

What risk? He quickly tied his horse to tri's organizing body, so that its own fortunes are tied to his own: http://www.slowtwitch.com/News/Armstrong_and_Livestrong_will_partner_with_WTC_2567.html It's just like buying USAC with Weisel and Och's hand-picked cronies. There's no risk when everyone owes you there job and you get the trouble-makers fired.

Seriously, if his maneuvering during the FDA investigation has been instructive of anything, it's that this guy is an absolute pro at gaming the system.

 

[The Hitch]

Why would he not? The rules have not applied to Lance for 20 years, why would he think they do now?

Nothing to do with rules. im talking about the health risks of doping . The rules of biology very much do apply to lance and he's stupid to risk his health especially with his history, after his career has finished.

 

[131313]

Nothing to do with rules. im talking about the health risks of doping . The rules of biology very much do apply to lance and he's stupid to risk his health especially with his history, after his career has finished.

Come on, those don't apply to him. Remember, he BEAT CANCER after all. Plus, he's surrounded himself with guys who've convinced him that doping is actually healthier than letting the body do what it does naturally.

Really, this just isn't surprising, on any level.

 

[The Hitch]

You disappoint me Hitch, and do a disservice to your screen name inspiration. You should really be more cynical!

What risk? He quickly tied his horse to tri's organizing body, so that its own fortunes are tied to his own: http://www.slowtwitch.com/News/Armstrong_and_Livestrong_will_partner_with_WTC_2567.html It's just like buying USAC with Weisel and Och's hand-picked cronies. There's no risk when everyone owes you there job and you get the trouble-makers fired.

Seriously, if his maneuvering during the FDA investigation has been instructive of anything, it's that this guy is an absolute pro at gaming the system .

Your the second person to interpret my post as talking about the legal aspect. to me the health problems are a far bigger risk than loss of reputation. especially if lance wants more kids. 40 is still young. i can understand him taking these risks at his peak at the tdf to become a star and create the whole.Armstrong phenomenon but doing it now at events which won't increase his fame or fortune of wellbeing one iota is imo very very
stupid.
i appreciate the compliment though.

 

[scribe]

What do you guys think he is doing, substance wise, to get a leg up on the competition?

 

[ericfalcon]

What do you guys think he is doing, substance wise, to get a leg up on the competition?

If there is no prospect of testing? Roids and EPO would be a solid base for a tri program. Stimulants for the race itself.

 

[Race Radio]

A few months ago he barely broke 1:20 for a 1/2 marathon. Today he went 1:17:01, off the bike, in 90 degree heat.

He sure "Responds" to "training"